Pro Football Network Final 2023 Offensive Line Rankings

[DFWJC]

Pretty sure PFF (so purely analytical) had Dallas in the top 6-7 in the final 2023 rankings.


Don't shoot the messenger. Just sayin'
This Pro Football Network ranking is not a big outlier.

 

[DFWJC]

I was expecting fringe top 8 so not far off. 3rd in the league in passing yards per game and then 14th in rushing yards per game. Interested to see what changes they make next year in the lineup and see if they can improve run game

This group (PlayerProfiler) seemed to agree with you.

They had the O-line listed in their with Dallas in Tier 2. Looks like about 10th if in order

TIER 1 (Elite)
Lions
Eagles

TIER 2 (Great, not Elite)
Raven
Falcons
Rams
Raiders
Broncos
Vikings
Colts
Cowboys

TIER 3 (Good season with obvious flaws)
Chiefs
Bills
Packers
49ers
Dolphins

TIER 4 (average and forgettable)
Commanders
Bucs
Bengals
etc


TIER 5 (walking wounded)
etc
etc
etc

 

[Rockport]

According to pro football reference 40 sacks ties them for 12th. behind, your charts is missing some teams. The Bills, Chiefs, Packers, Lions, Dolphins, Rams, 49ers, Saints, Steelers, Seahawks and Eagles gave up fewer sacks than Dallas.

Regardless they gave up a lot of sacks. This is a prime example that statistics don’t always tell the real story.

 

[zenmastersauce]

But we neve ran and was poor at it

 

[BoysForLife]

This is a prime example that statistics don’t always tell the real story.

Kind of like when the QB throws for 400 yards and 3 TD and his devoted fans say he did his job, but the reality is we were down 3 scores at halftime because he threw for 87 yards and 2 INT (one pick 6) in the first half?

 

[Rockport]

Kind of like when the QB throws for 400 yards and 3 TD and his devoted fans say he did his job, but the reality is we were down 3 scores at halftime because he threw for 87 yards and 2 INT (one pick 6) in the first half?

No, not like that.

 

[Nexx]

6th. I thought Dak was running for his life every game? Another Dakxcuse removed.

it only seemed like it cause he held onto the ball too long due to his slow processing and slow play recognition.

 

[StarOfGlory]

I did a deeper dive into the stats.

One thing about these stats is that the two top rated lines gave their QB the most time to pass in the pocket. This partly shows just how bad Hurts was this year compared to last year--even with elite pocket time he just stunk it up.

Let's not pretend that Dak wasn't hurt by his receivers. Mahomes led the lead in passes dropped by receivers at 39. Dak was second with 38.

If I told you Dak led the league in Red Zone passing attempts with 104 would you be surprised? Second highest was Jordan Love with 93.

Brock Purdy by far had the most passing yards per attempt at 9.6. Tua was second at 8.3. Dak's was 7.7.

Dak was blitzed 163 times. For comparison, Love 215, Goff 213, Allen 182, Hurts 185, Tua 116, Mahomes 132.

 

[ShiningStar]

I did a deeper dive into the stats.

One thing about these stats is that the two top rated lines gave their QB the most time to pass in the pocket. This partly shows just how bad Hurts was this year compared to last year--even with elite pocket time he just stunk it up.

Let's not pretend that Dak wasn't hurt by his receivers. Mahomes led the lead in passes dropped by receivers at 39. Dak was second with 38.

If I told you Dak led the league in Red Zone passing attempts with 104 would you be surprised? Second highest was Jordan Love with 93.

Brock Purdy by far had the most passing yards per attempt at 9.6. Tua was second at 8.3. Dak's was 7.7.

Dak was blitzed 163 times. For comparison, Love 215, Goff 213, Allen 182, Hurts 185, Tua 116, Mahomes 132.

Thank you for that. very helpful

 

[EenonyMoose]

6th. I thought Dak was running for his life every game? Another Dakxcuse removed.

So you're going to trust a list on Pro Football Network over what your own eyes showed you during the season? Weird, but okay.

 

[DFWJC]

So you're going to trust a list on Pro Football Network over what your own eyes showed you during the season? Weird, but okay.

I know this wasn't for me but....
Rankings are relative things. So how Dallas' overall line stacks up to the other overall lines across the league

I guess if a person watched every game of every team he might begin to maybe be able to do a real ranking.

I've now looked at 3 final rankings....so I'm guessing maybe 20-30 people watched all the tape and graded each game for every team.

All three of the rankings had Dallas in the 5-10 range

Maybe the oline play down across the league

That doesn't mean we don't need upgrades.

 

[Nexx]

I know this wasn't for me but....
Rankings are relative things. So how Dallas' overall line stacks up to the other overall lines across the league

I guess if a person watched every game of every team he might begin to maybe be able to do a real ranking.

I've now looked at 3 final rankings....so I'm guessing maybe 20-30 people watched all the tape and graded each game for every team.

All three of the rankings had Dallas in the 5-10 range

Maybe the oline play down across the league

That doesn't mean we don't need upgrades.

its called our fans are delusional and expect our line to literally be perfect on every play. its not realistic. i watch every team struggle with oline play every game.

 

[SwagSurfer]

6th best at what? Sure wasn't at creating run lanes.

 

[CowboysFilmStudy]

Pro Football Network Final 2023 OL Rank

1. Philadelphia
2. Baltimore
3. Indianapolis
4. Detroit
5. Minnesota
6. DALLAS
7. Cleveland
8. Green Bay
9. Atlanta
10. LA Rams
11. Tampa Bay
12. Las Vegas
13. Denver
14. Kansas City
15. San Francisco
16. Buffalo
17. New England
18. Houston
19. Pittsburgh
20. LA Chargers
21. Cincinnati
22. Arizona
23. Miami
24. Chicago
25. Washington
26. New Orleans
27. Seattle
28. Jacksonville
29. Carolina
30. NY Jets
31. NY Giants
32. Tennessee
33. 
    

6th is pretty generous to put it lightly.

 

[MoistMayonnaise]

Let's see:

5th in points allowed per game
1st in team offense
3rd in passing offense
1st in kicking
5th in scoring offense
1st in third down conversions

last in playoff wins

 

[DFWJC]

Let's see:

5th in points allowed per game
1st in team offense
3rd in passing offense
1st in kicking
5th in scoring offense
1st in third down conversions

last in playoff wins

So tied for "last" with 26 other teams in that area.
After this week it'll be tied with between 24-26 other teams for "last"
Underachieved though, in that we can all agree.

 

[jterrell]

In their Final full Offensive Line unit rankings, Did that add up to top 10? top 5? Honest question

I noticed they came out with the full Offensive line unit rankings but I couldn't see them

Where was Dallas ranked as a unit?

12th in team pass blocking and 13th in team run blocking. I do not see a pure offensive line score.
My sub is the mid-level one not the highest klevel so may be some things I don't see.

 

[jterrell]

PFF scored 7 starting defenders below 50 in the playoff game.
Yikes!.

 

[DFWJC]

12th in team pass blocking and 13th in team run blocking. I do not see a pure offensive line score.
My sub is the mid-level one not the highest klevel so may be some things I don't see.

PFF Final 2023 O-Line Rankings

Here is the link.
I can only see the top 4

1. Philly
2. Detroit
3. Indy
4. Atlanta

I know Dallas was 3rd entering week 18, but was glad to see they didn't stay that high. But I assume tey are probably top 6.

 

[jterrell]

Dak was 3rd on the season for PFF at QB, rated a 90.

But his playoff game score was a poor 60 which equates to Sam Howell. #notgood. but better than ~14 other Cowboys starters in that game including Zach Martin and Brandin Cooks.