Profound Grief 19 Children, 2 Teachers Dead In Texas School Shooting

[VaqueroTD]

Reading some of the news…. Apparently he was confronted by the door security cop, and maybe even fired upon. Details still sketchy.

Then it took a quick turn for the worse because he immediately ran away from the door security cop, shut himself and barricaded himself in a nearby room to hold out. This was where all the kids and teachers were located that he killed.

Most of these shootings they seem to get them in action. Remains to be seen if the slow cop response would have saved lives. Nothing released yet on if he killed everyone as soon as entering the room or waited.

 

[VaqueroTD]

There weren't signs that were missed?

Hell, All I have to do is look at these pictures they are posting everywhere online with his sad pitiful mug frame to know there were definitely missed signs. Kid doesn’t look right at all. Every single one of these shootings, maybe not everyone will admit it, but there was always that one person who knew something wasn’t right.

 

[Hoofbite]

Hell, All I have to do is look at these pictures they are posting everywhere online with his sad pitiful mug frame to know there were definitely missed signs. Kid doesn’t look right at all. Every single one of these shootings, maybe not everyone will admit it, but there was always that one person who knew something wasn’t right.

Having seen what happened, it's easy to say that "he looks like someone who would", but there are plenty of kids who aren't all that dissimilar in appearance who have zero intention on harming anyone. Hell, every few years it becomes "cool" again to look like a social outcast.

Anyway, I think some of his social media is where the clues should have been recognized but when it comes to someone who's more-or-less an outcast and doesn't have much of a social circle, who is actually going to see the stuff that is posted?

 

[Hoofbite]

Another thing that really sucked as I was following yesterday is that the only numbers you heard about were deaths. While they said some were transported to hospitals, they never had a tally for the injured. It became clear later in the evening that was because there were no survivors outside of the grandmother (last I heard). I knew last night that everyone in the room had been killed.

The reports get worse and worse the more you read about it. Parents were asked to provide DNA samples to help with identification.

 

[nate dizzle]

https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683

Wow. Speechless.

They really tried passing off this kid barricading himself in the room with all the people he wanted to kill as "containing him to the room." Sickening.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Another thing that really sucked as I was following yesterday is that the only numbers you heard about were deaths. While they said some were transported to hospitals, they never had a tally for the injured. It became clear later in the evening that was because there were no survivors outside of the grandmother (last I heard). I knew last night that everyone in the room had been killed.

The reports get worse and worse the more you read about it. Parents were asked to provide DNA samples to help with identification.

There were survivors...This recap by this kid is horrible to listen to. https://www.khou.com/article/news/s...tary/273-51cc4e26-7a0a-49c0-ba7a-48cdd47fa235

https://www.click2houston.com/news/...ared-blood-on-her-body-to-pretend-to-be-dead/

My understanding there were several wounded, but they I'm not sure there's an official count.

 

[nate dizzle]

I remember a case like 30 years ago- made into a TV Movie- where a cop stood by and let a crazy man jump on a girls neck without doing anything and the city attorney tried to claim he was 'containing the situation.'

"Well, we've got the fox contained in the henhouse...good job boys."

 

[mattjames2010]

Yes, yes it is. Mental health is a worldwide issue but you don't see school massacres in other first world countries like you see in the states.

There have been school massacres, church massacres, etc. throughout the world. Stop focusing your attention on US centric media, we aren't the world. There have been numerous knife and machete attacks in schools and public areas throughout the world, and that includes first world.

Let's also not forget the car attacks that were common throughout Europe just 4-5 years ago, concerts being bombed, etc, also a little incident a few years back you might remember where multiple gunman walked into a media station and killed multiple journalists.

Also it's really cute how people throw out the "200 mass shootings already" with little to no context - FBI have a hard time calling gang bangers within a vicinity of a school shooting each other a mass shooting until it benefits a narrative. Gang bangers shooting up a birthday party and funeral isn't considered a mass shooting until some lone nut shoots up a school or Walmart, then suddenly all those shootings get put together to pretend like it's common for retail stores and schools to have shootings when it's just not the truth.

 

[nalam]

No, no it is not.

Show me a country where in this year the mass shootings … no forget mass shootings , 27 school shootings in this year? ….. please

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

A bunch of young children are just killed and you guys in in here arguing semantics and some were arguing politics.
Good grief people. Give it a break.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Argue one more word in this thread and you guys are getting benched.

 

[rags]

Police left shooter in school for 60 minutes. It took a Border guard to deliver the kill shot. Will be interesting to see the examination of the police personal who were on the scene. I thought that all schools no longer had general access since the shooting in Fl about 4 years ago.

Wonder if the parents of those killed or injured can sue the Uvalde Police Department for waiting so long to enter the school.

 

[nate dizzle]

Wonder if the parents of those killed or injured can sue the Uvalde Police Department for waiting so long to enter the school.

I can't even fathom the feelings of helplessness, desperation, despair, and rage those parents were feeling listening to shots going off in the school while the police stood around looking at each other.

Parents begging cops to go inside and do something to stop him from killing their kids. Nightmare landscape.

 

[joseephuss]

https://www.newsweek.com/husband-uvalde-teacher-killed-dies-heart-attack-1710587

Husband of Teacher Killed in Uvalde Shooting Suffers Fatal Heart Attack

The husband of Irma Garcia, a teacher that was killed in the Uvalde school shooter, reportedly died after suffering a heart attack on Thursday.

Ernie Zuniga of KAAB news in San Antonio, Texas first reported the death of Garcia's husband, Joe on Twitter.

"Joe Garcia, the husband of Irma Garcia, one of two teachers shot and killed in Uvalde, TX on Tuesday, has reportedly suffered a fatal heart attack. Joe and Irma were high school sweethearts and married 24 years. They leave behind four children," Zuniga's tweet said.

 

[Sarek]

Ok so i just watched the Press Conference.

Few things i don't understand.

So he decided to go to the school just on coincidence because he crashed the truck close by? or was that his destination as soon as he walked out of Grandma's house?

 

[Tabascocat]

Evidently, some time before this loser did this, he was killing cats and throwing them at houses.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/buffalo-u...rs-allegedly-abused-animals/story?id=84970582

 

[DallasEast]

https://www.newsweek.com/husband-uvalde-teacher-killed-dies-heart-attack-1710587

Husband of Teacher Killed in Uvalde Shooting Suffers Fatal Heart Attack

The husband of Irma Garcia, a teacher that was killed in the Uvalde school shooter, reportedly died after suffering a heart attack on Thursday.

Ernie Zuniga of KAAB news in San Antonio, Texas first reported the death of Garcia's husband, Joe on Twitter.

"Joe Garcia, the husband of Irma Garcia, one of two teachers shot and killed in Uvalde, TX on Tuesday, has reportedly suffered a fatal heart attack. Joe and Irma were high school sweethearts and married 24 years. They leave behind four children," Zuniga's tweet said.

This latest tragedy just gets worse...

 

[DFWJC]

Two really bizarre notes about this tragedy

1) The shooter walked, unimpeded, into an unlocked door. Every school that I know of in Texas has all doors locked all day. You have to be beeped in or have a passkey unless door is manned.
2) The shooter was inside for 40 MINUTES with people screaming at law enforcement to please go inside.

Just so sad and tragic

 

[nobody]

Two really bizarre notes about this tragedy

1) The shooter walked, unimpeded, into an unlocked door. Every school that I know of in Texas has all doors locked all day. You have to be beeped in or have a passkey unless door is manned.
2) The shooter was inside for 40 MINUTES with people screaming at law enforcement to please go inside.

Just so sad and tragic

Yeah, that's really sad.

On 1) Every school I know of too has all doors locked all day with the office having cameras on the doors to decide whether to buzz someone in or not. That this school didn't have them or they weren't locked is inexcusable. When my kids were in school, it was a pain when I had to take them out for an appointment, waiting to get buzzed in but that was a welcome pain given the possibilities. Whoever made the decision not to lock those doors or not have that basic security in place should lose their jobs and be charged with criminal negligence.

On 2) Law enforcement was also criminally negligent in my opinion. While I have an utmost respect for the boys in blue, they had a moral obligation to try and stop that monster once they put the uniform on that day.

This is a horrendous tragedy for those injured or dead and their families. I'm glad my daughter's last day of Senior year was today, but my wife's still a teacher. Not a single teacher or student should be willing to go back to school anywhere in the country until similar security methods are taken as a stopgap measure.

 

[unionjack8]

https://www.newsweek.com/husband-uvalde-teacher-killed-dies-heart-attack-1710587

Husband of Teacher Killed in Uvalde Shooting Suffers Fatal Heart Attack

The husband of Irma Garcia, a teacher that was killed in the Uvalde school shooter, reportedly died after suffering a heart attack on Thursday.

Ernie Zuniga of KAAB news in San Antonio, Texas first reported the death of Garcia's husband, Joe on Twitter.

"Joe Garcia, the husband of Irma Garcia, one of two teachers shot and killed in Uvalde, TX on Tuesday, has reportedly suffered a fatal heart attack. Joe and Irma were high school sweethearts and married 24 years. They leave behind four children," Zuniga's tweet said.

Oh my heart breaks, this is so so tragic