CFZ QBs alone don’t win SBs- TEAMS win SBs

[Rockport]

It's a little more important than that.

I'd trade Micah Parsons yesterday for Mahomes or Allen.

I wouldn’t.

 

[GINeric]

Yeah but Stafford is better than Dak.

Dak (a 4th round pick) is 18 - 24 vs winning teams


Stafford (a 1st round pick) is 11 - 72 vs winning teams
Stafford also has 174 interceptions in 194 games..... hold on to that one for a minute.


Keep believing Stafford is a better quarterback..... oh yeah, I got beach front property in Kansas that I would like to sell you. I promise to give you a fair deal.....

 

[75boyz]

Dak (a 4th round pick) is 18 - 24 vs winning teams


Stafford (a 1st round pick) is 11 - 72 vs winning teams


Keep believing Stafford is a better quarterback..... oh yeah, I got beach front property in Kansas that I would like to sell you. I promise to give you a fair deal.....

Man, you're totally onto something.
Brady's a 6th...

So how does that work?

Heck, Warner was undrafted so....

Again, never mind lol

 

[GINeric]

Man, you're totally onto something.
Brady's a 6th...

So how does that work?

Heck, Warner was undrafted so....

Again, never mind lol

Brady is the GOAT and Warner worked his *** off and became a great quarterback.

But that has nothing to do with the fact that Dak is better than Stafford. Thanks for sharing though!!!

Oh yeah, before you go..... Brady and Warner were very fortunate to have had the great opportunity to be groomed by great coaches and coordinators.

What great coaches and coordinators have Dak been fortunate enough to have been groomed by????

 

[75boyz]

Brady is the GOAT and Warner worked his *** off and became a great quarterback.

But that has nothing to do with the fact that Dak is better than Stafford. Thanks for sharing though!!!

Oh yeah, before you go..... Brady and Warner were very fortunate to have had the great opportunity to be groomed by great coaches and coordinators.

What great coaches and coordinators have Dak been fortunate enough to have been groomed by????

Refer to posts #148 and #151.
See if you can discuss this same Dak Prescott in the same way after reading.

I'm sure your response, as with its originally intended recipient will be a genuinely honest response.

As I'm still waiting.

Give 'em a read and get back with me champ.

 

[Jayinem]

Already making excuses for Dak I see, not surprised.

 

[CATCH17]

Dak (a 4th round pick) is 18 - 24 vs winning teams


Stafford (a 1st round pick) is 11 - 72 vs winning teams
Stafford also has 174 interceptions in 194 games..... hold on to that one for a minute.


Keep believing Stafford is a better quarterback..... oh yeah, I got beach front property in Kansas that I would like to sell you. I promise to give you a fair deal.....

Blah blah blah.. Stafford is a way better talent than Dak. Everyone outside of a Cowboys forum knows it.

 

[CATCH17]

He also thinks Rush is better than Dak.

I’ve constantly said Dak is better.

Rush can get similar results though and doesn’t cost 40 million. We could build a better team with Cooper Rush.

Dumping Dak and Zeke’s contracts would go a long way to improving the roster if the Jones’s went out and got guys.

 

[Rockport]

I’ve constantly said Dak is better.

Rush can get similar results though and doesn’t cost 40 million. We could build a better team with Cooper Rush.

Dumping Dak and Zeke’s contracts would go a long way to improving the roster if the Jones’s went out and got guys.

Well good thing you’re not the GM.

 

[rambo2]

I’ve constantly said Dak is better.

Rush can get similar results though and doesn’t cost 40 million. We could build a better team with Cooper Rush.

Dumping Dak and Zeke’s contracts would go a long way to improving the roster if the Jones’s went out and got guys.

Rush can not get similar results over the long term, That is ridiculous and they have built an outstanding team with Dak and Rush on it.

 

[GINeric]

Blah blah blah.. Stafford is a way better talent than Dak. Everyone outside of a Cowboys forum knows it.

Blah, Blah, Blah.... ok. Yeah... Stafford is so great of a talent he's been in the league 13 years and only won 11 games and loss 72 against winning teams.

Didn't win his first playoff game until his 10th or 11th season and lead the league in interceptions.... Yep, that's some "way better talent" there.

Stick to Madden son.

 

[rambo2]

Sometimes you get bad teams in the Super Bowl like the Rams and the Bengals.

 

[GINeric]

Refer to posts #148 and #151.
See if you can discuss this same Dak Prescott in the same way after reading.

I'm sure your response, as with its originally intended recipient will be a genuinely honest response.

As I'm still waiting.

Give 'em a read and get back with me champ.

I don't know what you were telling me to read because some kind of sign up sheet and political stuff popped up.

Just go ahead and give me the rundown yourself my man.

 

[GINeric]

I agree it takes a team to win a SB. But the fact is that the QB is the most important position on the field. That is why it's very important to have a QB that can perform under pressure. Watching Mahomes and Allen in a regular season game and in the playoffs last year was an example of two QBs stepping up and playing well but unfortunately someone has to lose. Watching Dak and Jimmy G. I saw one QB managing the game to the best of his ability and making just enough plays to win the game. While Dak was getting confused and didn't know where to go with the ball at certain times and looking like he didn't trust his physical ability to throw the ball to a wr that only had one step on his guy. If Dak would play like he has against the WFT or Giants he would of won some playoff games but it's obvious his physical throwing ability is not consistently good enough against the better teams where coverage is tighter and he has less time because the pass rush is better.

Thess are great points... but what's confusing about this notion is.... Aaron Rodgers is considered one of the best quarterbacks ever. But he's only won one Superbowl and he doesn't have the phenomenal performances in the playoffs.

What should I make of this???

 

[plasticman]

I certainly agree with many Cowboys fans that Dak needs to lead us to some playoff wins. But there is a major problem with the premise that QBs alone win SBs. That’s not correct. Teams win Super Bowls. Even the best QBs need help to win a SB.

Don’t believe me?

• Look at the 2020 SB champion Buccaneers. Tom Brady was horrible in the NFC championship game that year vs GB. He threw 3 picks that allowed the pack to almost win that game. The Tampa defense bailed him out. He played very well in the SB. But without the TB defense, there is no SB win.
• Look at last year’s champ the rams. Matt Stafford had ZERO playoff wins until he was traded to a better TEAM. Stafford was a key part of them winning, but he certainly didn’t carry them alone.
  
• The year Filly won their SB their QB was Nick Foles. Anyone watching the e-girls playoff wins that season knows very well that Nick Foles did not carry that team alone on his back.

This list could go on and on. Teams win SBs. Yes, you have to have good quarterbacking to win in the playoffs. But if that were all you need why hasn’t Aaron Rodgers won more than 1 SB?

Look, Dak needs to start leading this team to some playoff wins- on that I wholeheartedly agree. But it takes a lot more than a hero at QB to win a SB.

Absolutely agree.

For those of you who might disagree.....please explain Trent Dilfer.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

The guys who say Dak can't win a SB...either blindly hate Dak or just don't understand football.

 

[GINeric]

The guys who say Dak can't win a SB...either blindly hate Dak or just don't understand football.

Some of them blindly hate Dak, some of them don't understand football past play Madden on Franchise mode....

And some of them understand football, but set a different set of rules for Dak that they move goal posts for other quarterbacks. Alot of them are clueless hypocrites.

We still love them though. They never get tired of being exposed for talking out both sides of their mouths and its very entertaining to watch especially when you expose the hypocrisy and then they run and hide without addressing their own BS they get caught up in.

 

[CATCH17]

Rush can not get similar results over the long term, That is ridiculous and they have built an outstanding team with Dak and Rush on it.

I disagree..

Dak wins the games we’re supposed to win and rarely wins the games we are supposed to lose.

Rush can do exactly that.

 

[CATCH17]

Blah, Blah, Blah.... ok. Yeah... Stafford is so great of a talent he's been in the league 13 years and only won 11 games and loss 72 against winning teams.

Didn't win his first playoff game until his 10th or 11th season and lead the league in interceptions.... Yep, that's some "way better talent" there.

Stick to Madden son.

Put Dak in Detroit and he’s probably out of the league by now.

Having Dak Prescott on your team as a 40 million dollar player is not a recipe for winning anything and he will prove it year after year.

 

[GINeric]

Put Dak in Detroit and he’s probably out of the league by now.

Having Dak Prescott on your team as a 40 million dollar player is not a recipe for winning anything and he will prove it year after year.

Dak isn't the only quarterback with a max dollar contract.

With that said, other than Brady, Mahomes and Allen.... WHO is playing consistently on a level to justify their contracts.

As a matter of fact, there are other quarterbacks who've played 6 full seasons like Dak did, had minimal playoff success like Dak did, and didn't have any Superbowl wins or appearances like Dak hasn't. But their careers turned out just fine and some managed to make it to the Hall of Fame..... after having minimal success in their first 5,6, or 7 seasons.

Its amazing how they're not brought up or nobody talked about how their teams should have given up on them like some claim Dallas should give up on Dak.

People act like Dak isn't a good quarterback and its hilarious to read too. Dak isn't elite, but he's very good.

Like I said before.... being an elite quarterback doesn't guarantee you a Superbowl ring. There are MANY non elite quarterbacks that have proven that.