QB's (not named Brady) who played in the last 17 Super-Bowls & Draft Positions

[Flamma]

07 isn't even Eli's best playoff run.

There is a very low amount of people that don't consider what Flacco did to be the greatest run ever for a QB in the playoffs. I guess you like to be different.

Everyone knows the Giants defense is why they won those Super Bowls. Flacco didn't have that luxury. He had to have the greatest run ever for the Ravens to win, and he did it.

Teams win, not QBs. They had the better team. Flacco didn't face what Eli and the Giants faced. I don't even think the two are close. You should make a poll.

 

[DFWJC]

Eli is such a playoff enigma
One of the worst playoff QBs in a league-worst 4 one-and-dones.....and, as we all know, also had two great SB runs

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If history was invoking more than the actions of 3 other teams, it would be more concerning. We’re talking about all 32 teams in every Super Bowl over… 15+ years?

So either consider the value the Chiefs and the Bengals and the Bills and the Now Jets are getting out of their commitments to highly drafted QBs or… expect Dak to start playing like Tom Brady. Whichever seems more realistic

Dak is in the NFC where his only competition wt quarterback is Jalen Hurts and Brock Purdy….he doesn’t have to be Tom Brady lol. I guess Hurts doesn’t have a shot at winning a ring either since he wasn’t a first rounder?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Eli is such a playoff enigma
One of the worst playoff QBs in a league-worst 4 one-and-dones.....and, as we all know, also had two great SB runs

Anyone who beat the Pats twice in the SB should be a hall of fame lock but Eli’s career was so uneven I’m not sure he’s a first ballot.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

First off. QB is far from the toughest position
May require the most skill, but not toughest.

Yes having all the tools means with the correct system and coaching you don't need to worry about your QB costing you the game.

I’m young so I was taking your advice and decided to “carry on”…..

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Eli is such a playoff enigma
One of the worst playoff QBs in a league-worst 4 one-and-dones.....and, as we all know, also had two great SB runs

And I do think Romo was a better QB than Eli but Eli had those 2 magical runs.

 

[DFWJC]

What I’ve said all along.

You can’t put your faith in a 4th round talent playing the most important position in sports.

Dak Prescott will NEVER lead any team to a Super Bowl.

Odds say you are right about Dak, but I wouldn't say a 4th round (or later) QB can't get to a SB
It's fairly unusual (Brady, Warner, some others) but not out fo the question.
Also, there's a few 1st round QBs that played in SBs that probaly shouldve been 4th rounders...lol. (Dilfer come to mind)

 

[Diehardblues]

QB's who played in the Super-bowl, from 2007, and their draft round:
Brady, a 6th round pick, is excluded from this list.
Round/Player

1 Manning
1 Grossman
1 Manning
1 Roethlisberger
n/a Warner
2 Brees
1 Manning
1 Rodgers
1 Roethlisberger
1 Manning (Eli)
1 Flacco
2 Kaepernick
3 Wilson
1 Manning
3 Wilson
1 Manning
1 Newton
1 Ryan
3 Foles
1 Goff
1 Mahomes
2 Garoppolo
1 Mahomes
1 Stafford
1 Burrow
1 Mahomes
2 Hurts

That’s 19 of 28 in 1st round .
68%

23 of 28 from 1st or 2nd round .
83%

I like those percentages !!

 

[Diehardblues]

And I do think Romo was a better QB than Eli but Eli had those 2 magical runs.

That’s arguable . Eli career stats are better as he stayed healthy . He’s top 10 in passing yards and TD’s.

 

[Creeper]

Anyone who beat the Pats twice in the SB should be a hall of fame lock but Eli’s career was so uneven I’m not sure he’s a first ballot.

He is going to get in on the basis of his 2 Super Bowls but he was not a great QB. He also had that streak of games started which some people think is a great achievement, but you watch him play and you can understand why he never got hurt.

Eli benefitted from some great defenses. The teams that stuffed Favre in Green Bay for example. They won because of the defense not because of Eli.

I think for the most part, Super Bowl teams have either a great QB, a great offensive line, or a great defensive front 7.

 

[Diehardblues]

There have been 150 quarterbacks drafted in the first 3 rounds since 2007. Only 9 (6%) have made it to a Super Bowl.

The absolute frequency of a quarterback playing in a Super Bowl is low, regardless of draft round.

Definitely long odds and not the norm in lower rounds.

Based on the OP stats 83% are from 1st and 2nd round with 68% from 1st round . Statistically that is what I’d call hedging your odds.

 

[visionary]

I don’t understand your disbelief. Many first round quarterbacks fail

That you don’t understand is patently obvious and does not need to be restated

Lollipops
Rainbows
Unicorns

 

[Diehardblues]

Odds say you are right about Dak, but I wouldn't say a 4th round (or later) QB can't get to a SB
It's fairly unusual (Brady, Warner, some others) but not out fo the question.
Also, there's a few 1st round QBs that played in SBs that probaly shouldve been 4th rounders...lol. (Dilfer come to mind)

It’s definitely a long shot on Dak being a 4th rounder leading us to a SB. The better odds are an Elite defense leading us to a SB.

But anyone saying Dak will “ never” make it to a SB is just trolling. No one has a crystal ball. Lesser QB’s than Dak have been carried by Elite defenses to a SB.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Dak is in the NFC where his only competition wt quarterback is Jalen Hurts and Brock Purdy….he doesn’t have to be Tom Brady lol. I guess Hurts doesn’t have a shot at winning a ring either since he wasn’t a first rounder?

Well, the stat the OP presented is day 1 and 2 QBs, which includes guys who just fell out of the first like Hurts and Brees

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Cowboys Super Bowl Quarterbacks:

1970 - Craig Morton, 1965 1st round pick, 5th overall
1971 - Roger Staubach, 1964 10th round pick, 129th overall
1975 - Roger Staubach, 1964 10th round pick, 129th overall
1977 - Roger Staubach, 1964 10th round pick, 129th overall
1978 - Roger Staubach, 1964 10th round pick, 129th overall
1992 - Troy Aikman, 1989 1st round pick, 1st overall
1993 - Troy Aikman, 1989 1st round pick, 1st overall
1995 - Troy Aikman, 1989 1st round pick, 1st overall

Great point. I would also point out that Staubach would have certainly been a first-round pick, and probably the very first pick in the draft, if he hadn't had his Navy commitment. Without that, Landry would have needed to trade up to get him. It's not clear he would have done that since it looked like we had our guy in Craig Morton. Morton played really well in relief of Don Meredith when Meredith was hurt. The point is, all of our SB-starting QBs were either first-found picks or should-have-been first round picks.

 

[Diehardblues]

Great point. I would also point out that Staubach would have certainly been a first-round pick, and probably the very first pick in the draft, if he hadn't had his Navy commitment. Without that, Landry would have needed to trade up to get him. It's not clear he would have done that since it looked like we had our guy in Craig Morton. Morton played really well in relief of Don Meredith when Meredith was hurt. The point is, all of our SB-starting QBs were either first-found picks or should-have-been first round picks.

Right. Staubach was a Heisman and would have certainly been a 1st round pick.

We could also add Merideth to that list for consecutive NFL title games which was equivalent to a SB. Dandy was our 1st over all signing with the Cowboys since we didn’t have a draft pick in 1960.

 

[DFWJC]

It’s definitely a long shot on Dak being a 4th rounder leading us to a SB. The better odds are an Elite defense leading us to a SB.

But anyone saying Dak will “ never” make it to a SB is just trolling. No one has a crystal ball. Lesser QB’s than Dak have been carried by Elite defenses to a SB.

If you put a good enough team around an "ok" QB and just so happen to get on a roll during the playoffs, history has shown several times that they can win a SB

Nick Foles
Brad Johnson
Trent Dilfer
Jim McMahon
Jeff Hostetler
Doug Williams

and others!

And because the teams wins a SB, players to get vaulted into legend status at time whether they deserve it or not

 

[KJJ]

IF? Two years ago, he didn't know the rules of a game he has played his whole life. Last year, he choked out again. You can not wait until he chokes out for a third or fourth time. So if you do, then you dak guys will go all crazy if a new guy comes in straight out of college and doesn't win the super bowl his first year. I know you said you are not a dak fan. Come on, you hate romo and you are not a dak fan. Why is it so hard for you dak fans to say you hate romo and have put all your eggs in a basket hoping dak can win something so you can blame Romo? Again don't say either one of my statements is wrong I read the romo threads.

be honest

What are you talking about him not knowing the rules? You’re nothing but a complete Dak hater. Put a lesser QB than him on this team and we’re Washington. By the way I never hated Romo. I always gave him credit when he played well, and never wanted to move on from him until we found a better option…Fact!

 

[DFWJC]

That’s arguable . Eli career stats are better as he stayed healthy . He’s top 10 in passing yards and TD’s.

Romo>>Eli

don't want to hijack the thread (and you and I mostly agree on this stuff) but come on my man

On a per-game basis, Romo was better than Eli "statistically" in every way.

• Passer rating (Romo WAY better)
• Playoff Passer rating
• QBR
• turnover ratio
• TD ratio
• YPA (WAY better)
• 4th qtr comebacks per game (nearly twice as frequent)
• and this is a team stat, but Romo's teams also had a far better winning percentage than Eli's

The cumulative stats (due to playing twice as many games) is where Eli comes out on top.

 

[Diehardblues]

If you put a good enough team around an "ok" QB and just so happen to get on a roll during the playoffs, history has shown several times that they can win a SB

Nick Foles
Brad Johnson
Trent Dilfer
Jim McMahon
Jeff Hostetler
Doug Williams

and others!

And because the teams wins a SB, players to get vaulted into legend status at time whether they deserve it or not

Yep . And I’d definitely put Dak up there probably better than most of those .

So, maybe we don’t need the 85 Bears , 87 Giants, 2000 Ravens or 2002 Bucs defense but something closer to it than what we have now .

I’d take the 2022 49ers defense .