QB's (not named Brady) who played in the last 17 Super-Bowls & Draft Positions

[Diehardblues]

But that goes into how good or a player you are. Durability. You can’t take that out of the equation.

Of course and why I was arguing with another gentleman Eli should be considered a greater QB because he was durable for 16 seasons compiling top 10 caliber stats .

 

[GINeric]

Eli in 07 payoffs- 4 games, 854 yards, 6 TDs, 1 INT, 95.7 QBR

Flacco having the greatest playoff run ever for a QB - 4 games, 1,140 yards, 11 TDs, 0 INTs, 117.2 QBR

Dak fans continue to prove they are clueless when it comes to the QB position.

I keep hearing this "Dak fan" label. Last I checked, Dak still plays for the Dallas Cowboys correct?

Aren't we supposed to be fans of the players that play for our favorite team named the Dallas Cowboys? Oh wait... we're supposed to cheer for the team's success but cheer against the success of certain players on our favorite team....

I swear some people say the dumbest **** in the world.

Imagine being a fan of players on your favorite team. I wonder how many other teams have fans that are fans of the players on their favorite team.

Maybe it's only us Dallas Cowboys fans who are fans of the players on our favorite team.

 

[Motorola]

Where is Wentz? He made a SB too.

'TheMarathonContinues' - my response was to 'BaybeeJay' - posting that only 9 QBs drafted in the first 3 rounds of the NFL draft "made it" it to the Super Bowl.
I think 'BaybeeJay' meant 9 QBs in that category TO START in the Super Bowl...and that the CZer overlooked Burrow and Hurts ...because it happened for both during the last two NFL Title games.

I would guess there are a half-dozen or so QBs drafted in rounds 1-3 since 2007 that "made a SB too"...as a backup.
I found two others besides Wentz__
Blaine Gabbert - 1st round pick by the Jaguars in the 2011 draft; made SB LV as Buccaneers backup.
C.J. Beathard - 3rd round pick by the 49ers in the 2017 draft; made SB LIV as the 3rd-string QB.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

'TheMarathonContinues' - my response was to 'BaybeeJay' - posting that only 9 QBs drafted in the first 3 rounds of the NFL draft "made it" it to the Super Bowl.
I think 'BaybeeJay' meant 9 QBs in that category TO START in the Super Bowl...and that the CZer overlooked Burrow and Hurts ...because it happened for both during the last two NFL Title games.

I would guess there are a half-dozen or so QBs drafted in rounds 1-3 since 2007 that "made a SB too"...as a backup.
I found two others besides Wentz__
Blaine Gabbert - 1st round pick by the Jaguars in the 2011 draft; made SB LV as Buccaneers backup.
C.J. Brthard - 3rd round pick by the 49ers in the 2017 draft; made SB LIV as the 3rd-string QB.

Yeah but Wentz is different….he had the majority of the wins to even get them into the playoffs.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I keep hearing this "Dak fan" label. Last I checked, Dak still plays for the Dallas Cowboys correct?

Aren't we supposed to be fans of the players that play for our favorite team named the Dallas Cowboys? Oh wait... we're supposed to cheer for the team's success but cheer against the success of certain players on our favorite team....

I swear some people say the dumbest **** in the world.

Imagine being a fan of players on your favorite team. I wonder how many other teams have fans that are fans of the players on their favorite team.

Maybe it's only us Dallas Cowboys fans who are fans of the players on our favorite team.

The irony is he keeps calling everyone Dak fans but he talks about Dak more than anyone lol.

 

[Diehardblues]

I keep hearing this "Dak fan" label. Last I checked, Dak still plays for the Dallas Cowboys correct?

Aren't we supposed to be fans of the players that play for our favorite team named the Dallas Cowboys? Oh wait... we're supposed to cheer for the team's success but cheer against the success of certain players on our favorite team....

I swear some people say the dumbest **** in the world.

Imagine being a fan of players on your favorite team. I wonder how many other teams have fans that are fans of the players on their favorite team.

Maybe it's only us Dallas Cowboys fans who are fans of the players on our favorite team.

That’s just another team for Dak Homer. Unfortunately like most teams fans there are those who go above and beyond the norm in protecting their own players, especially their favorite players often struggling to be more unbiased when up against the stronger criticism.

There is also fans who are attracted to following teams because of their players . Like some who follow Fantasy Football. It’s not entirely uncommon to draw fans in because of their success and or popularity. It might explain why some are bigger fans if the player than the team.

It would probably explain why we have such a following across the country and beyond . Unfortunately everyone is a local or regional Cowboy fan.

 

[Motorola]

Yeah but Wentz is different….he had the majority of the wins to even get them into the playoffs.

That is true.
But after his injury that occurred in the 13th game, Wentz went to IR and was done for the remainder of 2017 = the final 4 regular season games + the playoffs.
End result - Wentz "made it" as a 1st round QB pick to a Super Bowl - but had no chance of playing in that game ( versus Gabbert and Beathard).

 

[DFWJC]

To me their playoff stats is what puts Eli’s career over Romos. Romo was a great regular season quarterback….Eli played much better in the playoffs than he did regular season.

Romo had better individual playoff stats than Eli did as well.

• Better Passer rating
• Better QBR
• Better completion %
• Better TD to Int ratio
• Better Yards per attempt

Better at everything...as an individual, and on average

But Eli played 16 years and Romo really only played 7 full seasons, so Eli had more than twice as many years to have a chance at success....and he and the Giants made those two magical runs during that 16 year time frame.
Have to to the cap for that.
Incredible, because in the other 14 years, Eli and the Giants never won a single playoff game.

 

[Hadenough]

Pedigree gives you a better chance to win. You must have physical talent to begin with and be mentally strong and smart. Dak is a hard worker but lacks talent.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Romo had better individual playoff stats than Eli did as well.

• Better Passer rating
• Better QBR
• Better completion %
• Better TD to Int ratio
• Better Yards per attempt

Better at everything...as an individual, and on average

But Eli played 16 years and Romo really only played 7 full seasons, so Eli had more than twice as many years to have a chance at success....and he and the Giants made those two magical runs during that 16 year time frame.
Have to to the cap for that.
Incredible, because in the other 14 years, Eli and the Giants never won a single playoff game.

Romo never case close to what Eli did in 2011. Eli stunk a lot but his two SB runs is better than Romo ever did. Let’s don’t kid ourselves.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Romo never case close to what Eli did in 2011. Eli stunk a lot but his two SB runs is better than Romo ever did. Let’s don’t kid ourselves.

If Romo won those 2 SBs that Eli won with the stats he currently has he'd be a HOFer no question on that.

 

[Hadenough]

There have been 150 quarterbacks drafted in the first 3 rounds since 2007. Only 9 (6%) have made it to a Super Bowl.

The absolute frequency of a quarterback playing in a Super Bowl is low, regardless of draft round.

That doesnt sound right! That means there are on avg of 9 QBs taken in first 3 rounds every year for the last 16 years.

 

[Hadenough]

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

No the OP brought up guys who made the SB.
I’m asking you a question. Since only Brees has won a SB who was a second rounder that means Hurts doesn’t have a shot to win right? Since Brees is the only 2nd rounder to win in that span?

Well Foles won it when he was a third rounder, so that works in Hurts’ favor. As did Russell Wilson nearly twice. There is precedent for day 2 talents

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well Foles won it when he was a third rounder, so that works in Hurts’ favor. As did Russell Wilson nearly twice. There is precedent for day 2 talents

I said second round guys…..since only one second round guy has won does that mean Hurts wont?

 

[Wangchung83]

A lot of 1s and 2s don’t get it done either, try opening your eyes. That’s the problem with some of you, you think you just use a 1 or 2 on a QB and problem solved. It’s not that simple!

Try opening our eyes, Dak has won less playoff games than qbs who’ve been in league one or two years. Open your eyes Daks been starting for eight years and still hasn’t made it to one nfc championship game.lol

 

[KJJ]

Try opening our eyes, Dak has won less playoff games than qbs who’ve been in league one or two years. Open your eyes Daks been starting for eight years and still hasn’t made it to one nfc championship game.lol

Those teams are better than the Cowboys, which is why those QBs have won more playoff games. The problem with you is you’re putting it all on Dak. He’s won more games than most of the starting QBs in the league. Romo started for 10 years and only won two playoff games. Was it all his fault? Do you think Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson were better than Romo and Dak because they have more playoff wins and a championship? Try opening up your eyes. Lol

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I said second round guys…..since only one second round guy has won does that mean Hurts wont?

That’s like saying Hurts is too good to win a SB because third round guys did it and he was projected better. The further you get in the draft, it’s significantly harder to find a guy who can elevate a roster to that extent.

It’s about expected ceilings of the players. Dak didn’t drop into the 4th because no one thought he could play in the NFL, he did because his ceiling was projected to be low. He has somewhat beaten those projections, but he is still hitting the same peak year in and year out relative to the other QBs.

You draft higher than day 3 for a chance to break those limitations. If you’re a day 3 pick, 8 years in and you’ve still done little to separate yourself from the “pro bowls are career achievements” pack, odds aren’t great. Doesn’t mean it’s impossible, but it’s becoming more and more implausible based on what can be done vs what has been done.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That’s like saying Hurts is too good to win a SB because third round guys did it and he was projected better. The further you get in the draft, it’s significantly harder to find a guy who can elevate a roster to that extent.

It’s about expected ceilings of the players. Dak didn’t drop into the 4th because no one thought he could play in the NFL, he did because his ceiling was projected to be low. He has somewhat beaten those projections, but he is still hitting the same peak year in and year out relative to the other QBs.

You draft higher than day 3 for a chance to break those limitations. If you’re a day 3 pick, 8 years in and you’ve still done little to separate yourself from the “pro bowls are career achievements” pack, odds aren’t great. Doesn’t mean it’s impossible, but it’s becoming more and more implausible based on what can be done vs what has been done.

But since 2007 only Foles, Brees and Russ have won. So the odds are slim that Hurts wins right?

 

[plasticman]

I would say that almost half of them are not only 1st round picks, they were picked #1 or #2 overall.

It might also be interesting to find out how old they were when they went to the Super Bowl. I suspect that many in the past ten seasons (not named Brady) are young enough to be in their first contract. Could it be that this is a trend created by their 2nd contract and it's effect on the quality of their teammates?