Question for Cowboys fans who watched Danny White Play in the early 80's

[DFWJC]

Lazy is a bad habit..

From 2006-2014, Tony Romo led all NFL QBs in 4th Quarter Comebacks (23) and Game-Winning Drives (27).
Of the past decade (2007-2016), Tony Romo lead all of 71 qualifying QBs in 4th Quarter and Overtime Passer Rating.

Romo 'Not being clutch' is a fallacy

I'm starting to believe that Stephen A Smith is posting on this site.

Well said and indisputably true.

It amazes me how an old perception can be blindly followed by people who actually claim to kbow the game and even follow the team.

Just so lazy

 

[DFWJC]

White played in an era where db's could do more to stop receivers from catching the ball. He also played in a run heavy era.

Romo has played in an era where receivers are protected more. He has also played in an era where passing is done more frequently and the game is tailored more for higher scoring.

So it's hard to make a pure comparison. One thing that altered Whites success was a wrist injury that many say he never really recovered from.

Ironically one of Romo's best seasons was when he had Murray to lean on despite all his passing stats...

No denying it was harder back in the day.

And I think its easier now than even 2-3 years ago because the meddle of the field is almost a safe zone now...which is and will help Dak and future QBs greatly.
In White's day, they'd take your head off and not wven get flagged.
But White really did throw WAY more picks than normal. In any time period.

As for RBs helping...thats has always been the case fir all QBs.
Dorsett certainly helped White

 

[DFWJC]

Sorry, we can agree to disagree.

It was the worst playoff game in Tony Romo's career as measured by QB rating, completion percentage, yards per attempt, etc.

The 2007 Giants defense ranked 17th in the league (by points allowed) and 7th in the league by yards allowed. They were a solid, not great, defense that had a very nice playoff run.

The fact the Cowboys had scored 45 and 31 points against the Giants in the two earlier regular season victories where Romo played MUCH MUCH better tells you that the Giant's defense weren't world-beaters.

Romo didn't play well in that game -- it's just a fact.

Had he played a little better than likely would have won -- right down to the interception Romo threw at the 2 minutes remaining mark to seal the game fot the Giants.

I'm not a Romo hater, however, I refuse to apply revisionist history to his entire career. Late in career was much consistent.. earlier in his career he was more like Favre.

Thats a bit lazy looking at the Giants defense in the playoffs vs what they were earlier.
They shut down the Pats at 14 points...a Pats team with maybe the best offense in NFL history.
Dallas actually scored 17 and easily could have had 14 more from a wide open drop and the endzone screwup by Crayton.
And yes, Romo was not sizzling either.

And the Dallas passing game had some misfortune, if you recall. Multiple huge drops.
And just the last two plays would've changed stats (and the outcome) completely.
3rd down time running out. Perfect throw in the endzone, but Crayton broke his route.
Then 4th down, time up (16 seconds no timeluts) no choice but to get it to the end-zone.
Could have thrown it away and spared the stats, but of course give the team a chance a get it to the endzone. That was the one pick.
The fact you think minutes were left says something.

But again, the Giants D was dominant in those playoffs.

Btw, the Pats beat Dallas by three touchdowns earlier in the year...fwiw.

Oh well..old tired news.

 

[diefree666]

Thats a bit lazy looking at the Giants defense in the playoffs vs what they were earlier.
They shut down the Pats at 14 points...a Pats team with maybe the best offense in NFL history.
Dallas actually scored 17 and easily could have had 14 more from a wide open drop and the endzone screwup by Crayton.
And yes, Romo was not sizzling either.

And the Dallas passing game had some misfortune, if you recall. Multiple huge drops.
And just the last two plays would've changed stats (and the outcome) completely.
3rd down time running out. Perfect throw in the endzone, but Crayton broke his route.
Then 4th down, time up (16 seconds no timeluts) no choice but to get it to the end-zone.
Could have thrown it away and spared the stats, but of course give the team a chance a get it to the endzone. That was the one pick.
The fact you think minutes were left says something.

But again, the Giants D was dominant in those playoffs.

Btw, the Pats beat Dallas by three touchdowns earlier in the year...fwiw.

Oh well..old tired news.

The Giants D was energized by the game with the pats at the end of the season. Several of them afterwards said that was what gave them confidence to make that run. They played a lot better from that point on.

Yeah Tony did not have a good game; but it would have been enough if he would have had a little more help from his receivers. But TO was injured and Crayton and Fasano spit the bit when it counted. I like how the Romo haters mention his late pick; it was for all intents and purposes the same as a hail mary; there was nothing else to do but throw it up and hope.

 

[JoeKing]

There was a good Danny White era and a bad Danny White era. These folks in their 40's now that think because they saw Danny White play, they know what they are talking about, but I got news for you... you saw the bad Danny White play.

 

[diefree666]

There was a good Danny White era and a bad Danny White era. These folks in their 40's now that think because they saw Danny White play, they know what they are talking about, but I got news for you... you saw the bad Danny White play.

HE was behind the 8 ball from day one replacing Roger. I remember Young talking about what it was like replacing Montana and how hard it was. Danny White was in a virtual no win scenario where if he did not get the boys to several SBs and win some he would always seem to be a failure. Unfortunately he got no breaks at all. IF Pearson does not get shirt tailed and takes it in we go to the SB and probably beat Cinci and things get very different.

 

[DFWJC]

The Giants D was energized by the game with the pats at the end of the season. Several of them afterwards said that was what gave them confidence to make that run. They played a lot better from that point on.

Yeah Tony did not have a good game; but it would have been enough if he would have had a little more help from his receivers. But TO was injured and Crayton and Fasano spit the bit when it counted. I like how the Romo haters mention his late pick; it was for all intents and purposes the same as a hail mary; there was nothing else to do but throw it up and hope.

Exactly right

 

[lostar2009]

Oh, you mean when Romo lead the team to 13-3 and a first round bye, but eventually was destroyed by the Giants pro bowl DL that ate our OL's lunch and went on to beat the mighty Patriots in the SB?.. yeah, I remember that one too

We beat those guys twice that year. When the pressure was on Romo and the team flake out.

 

[adbutcher]

How does he compare to Tony Romo?

Romo did more with less, White did less with more.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Staubach>Aikman>White>Romo

 

[TwoDeep3]

Why does this unsubstantiated line continue to pop up?

I guess maybe the proof is in games where the stakes were at a premium, pressure was high and he tossed the deciding interception. There are plenty of examples. But there is a contingency which ignores those picks and complains about the defense as the sole problem of the team.

Danny White displayed the same type of performances where he spit the bit when the NFC Championship was on the line. Especially in the '81 Frisco game after the Catch. While others argue, he moved the team to the 50-yard line and had plenty of time to get within field goal range. But then he fumbled.

The game has changed since White played. The passing game is the end-all, be-all. So lots of stats make the mathematicians on this board happy. But stats are empty if a championship isn't attached at the end of the day.

I liked Romo. I feel I have to say that every time I hold him responsible for his errors, because the hater label comes out. But an individual player will get blamed for a loss here, unless it was an interception by Romo when the play-offs were on the line. I suppose i don't feel the need to apologize for Romo being human.

 

[xwalker]

Yes, when it comes to White, I think time has made him look better than he was. He was not a bad quarterback, which is why Landry stuck with him, but he was nowhere near greatness.

When White played, Cowboys fans mistakenly thought players like Gary Hogeboom and Steve Pelleur could do better or couldn't be any worse. White was clearly above that level and good enough to win with with a great team around him. (In the 1980s, we had a pretty good team around him at times, but not great.)

Now, we have fans looking back in retrospect and mistakenly putting him on Romo's level.

White's final year was 85, IIRC.

Landry tried to replace him in 83 with Hogeboom.

Pelleur sucked but by then the entire roster was in bad shape.

 

[DFWJC]

Danny White could be Danny White under Garrett but no way in hell is Tony Romo Tony Romo under Tom Landry.

Tony Romo wouldve had greater success on those Landry teams. Way better defenses, so no need for 30 points to win. Plus plenty of talent on offense.
Staubach and Romo had similar styles, btw.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Let me finish that sentence for you...

"Romo never quite had enough talent around him"

There's a reason Romo was distraught about last season. The Boys are finally adding 'Real' talent and building a complete team.. and Romo knew this. Unfortunately, his body took a beating throughout his career and failed him during his 'twilight' years. Romo is the most unappreciated QB I've seen. Casual fans regurgitate the Cowboy hating bias of the media.

That's what I meant, Romo's teams just weren't go enough

 

[Longboysfan]

I think Romo would have won as much or more if had had the all around teams that White had...especially the defenses.
I'll never understand how otherwise decent football knowledge people (or seemingly so) act like QBs play in a vacuum.
And I think Danny White was good, btw.
But he played with a ton of HOFers on both sides of the ball.
He threw nearly as many ints in his career as TDs. I realize it was harder back then,but co e on.
The devenses had Too Tall Jones, Harvey Martin, Walls, Jeffcoat....good grief.

But all those HOF'ers were on the down side of their careers.
And the Cowboys were not drafting all the great players back then.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

If individual accomplishment is your thing then Romo is your guy but if the question is which one did more for the team then the answer is Danny White. I was a huge Danny White fan and I've always thought his treatment by fans after he retired was an injustice.

This is the best description of a comparison between the two QBs.

White was more AIkman-like in his ability to run the play successfully. Romo was more Staubach-like in his ability to improvise. Both were capable of winning championships under the right circumstances.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

This is the best description of a comparison between the two QBs.

White was more AIkman-like in his ability to run the play successfully. Romo was more Staubach-like in his ability to improvise. Both were capable of winning championships under the right circumstances.

White was like a carbon copy of Aikman, if Aikman had 80% of his talent sapped and most of his balls ended up being caught by the other team.

 

[robbieruff]

How does he compare to Tony Romo?

White inherited a much more talented team that carried him. Tony carried a team of lesser talent. Tony was a much better QB than Danny in every facet. Though Danny was no slouch athletically. Very good punter too.

 

[haleyrules]

White was better when it counted. Romo was great early in the season...but not so strong has the season wore on.

 

[Brooksey]

How does he compare to Tony Romo?

I grew up watching Danny white in early 80's, just missed Staubach. Great team, T. Dorsett, Tony Hill, D.Pearson, RWhite, Too Tall, Harvey Martin & many others. It's unreal we did not win a SB with that team. As much as I loved Danny White & that particular team...it's not even close, Romo was a better QB, IMO.