Question for the pro-Dak fans on here?

Lodeus

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I don't get it. People treat their favorite players like victims when they're criticized.

Dak is not a victim. He's been on good teams with different coaches and has failed to produce any real meaningful wins. He needs to be a Brady or Rodgers in their prime to win with coach/gm/owner Jones running things and he just aint that guy.
 

IceStar-D7

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Jerry is terrible. The worst owner and GM in sports. Nobody will argue otherwise.

This thread is about why dak gets excused for playing terrible. There are a bunch of fans that wanted him here. Cheered when he got that stupid contract. And now blaming everybody else for his failures all the while knowing hes never going to get what he needs here to succeed.
Dak gets killed on sports talk shows and in here. So, I miss your point? Or are you just talking his family here??? Fans are fans. We expect the GM to make the right choices-not fans. But in our situation??? It's time to make the fans the GM...What do we have to lose at this point?
 

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QB is not responsible when the team gets blown out. It's a continued trend dating back to Week 5 49ers. Offense had been decent until the Lions game. No indication it's a continued issue.
Offense decent? Are you even remotely aware that the Cowboys rushing offense is statistically ranked DEAD LAST??

It's a one dimensional offense that couldn't even score one damn TD last game.

Wake up, nephew!
 

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When we lose, that’s because football is a team game and we have weaknesses in the offensive line, at running back, at wide receiver, and the defensive line, and in other spots in the defense too. Plus the coaches suck.

When we win, it’s because Dak won the game

I hope this clears up your confusion.
 

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Dak is a major issue . He's old , slow , mentally weak and soft .Yes we have glaring holes . But when you have the highest paid player in the league looking like a High school QB , the rest of the roster cannot overcome that. We need to eat Dak's salary and show his sorry arse the door
 

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Dak’s negative issues affecting the Cowboys, for me, come down to mostly involving the QB salary problem in the entire league. Above average QBs are wildly overpaid relative to their impact on the cap, which makes roster management in the NFL exponentially harder as a result. This is further compounded particularly in Dallas because the FO will do absolutely nothing in FA to improve, which other teams with overpaid above average QBs are doing, such as the Eagles. Dak is good enough to win a SB when he has the pieces around him. I truly believe that. He’s not garbage as many on this board like to say. His weaknesses become more obvious and apparent when there is less talent around him. I suppose one could argue that Dak should be self aware enough about his weaknesses and sign cap friendly deals in order to give Dallas the greatest leverage to acquire more talent to put around him. That still doesn’t fix the main problem though, which is the hyper-inflated QB market in the NFL, nor does it solve Dallas’s particular problem regarding the FO ignoring FA every damn year.
How can you honestly believe that with what youve seen from him these past 9 seasons?

And also, hes never going to get everything
He needs around him. NEVER.

Hes had an elite running game. Hes had an elite receiving corp. Hes had elite olines. Hes had a good enough defense.

Only thing hes never had is good head coaching, but he will never get that here under this owner.
 

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I think the Cowboys are underutilizing some players that would contribute to more team success. Luepke and Turpin come to mind. I agree Dak should be held accountable for things that are within his control. As should all players. I think there's just a frustrating plethora of issues this year and some are fixable while some are systemic.
 

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You dak fans have issues. Trashing a franchise legend because Dak is not a good QB.

Insanity
Help me understand. If Boy wonder average 1 TD and .8 picks per game why is it a problem when Dak is doing better than that???

Is it because Emmitt carried the team with 74 100+ yard games and we currently average 50 when we lose.

How come Troy could only win 40% of the time when Emmitt did not play or did not get 100 yards.

Please help me understand???

I get it when Troy lost, it most have been Emmitt's fault.
 

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He isn’t blamed for the team’s poor performance any less than other fan bases blame their favorite teams’ quarterback. It just that on fan forums no one really cares about the other 31 teams’ issues.
 

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Offense decent? Are you even remotely aware that the Cowboys rushing offense is statistically ranked DEAD LAST??

It's a one dimensional offense that couldn't even score one damn TD last game.

Wake up, nephew!
You didn't hear jerry? Zeke is our best running back and we're trying to save him up for the last part of the season. That's why we're dead last. And unless you're a genius you can't talk about what the Cowboys are doing right or wrong.
 

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Just curious regardless of what team teams are playing, who wins when a team runs for 50 yards and another team runs for 200????
again, when your QB is throwing INT's and has untimely fumbles it kills the momentum and turns into points for the other team. No doubt the D has been disgusting, but the team is built to play with the lead,, and our QB hasn't helped in this matter
 

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He isn’t blamed for the team’s poor performance any less than other fan bases blame their favorite teams’ quarterback. It just that on fan forums no one really cares about the other 31 teams’ issues.
As far as supposed elite/top-10 QBs go, he is.

Stephen A Smith went on national tv the other day and said that Dak isnt a top-5 issue on this team right now. The QB with the most turnover worthy plays in the league isnt a top-5 issue.
 

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again, when your QB is throwing INT's and has untimely fumbles it kills the momentum and turns into points for the other team. No doubt the D has been disgusting, but the team is built to play with the lead,, and our QB hasn't helped in this matter
So you can't answer the question.

GM is smart to build a team with a lead, when the game starts tied. He is a genius.
 

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Offense decent? Are you even remotely aware that the Cowboys rushing offense is statistically ranked DEAD LAST??

It's a one dimensional offense that couldn't even score one damn TD last game.

Wake up, nephew!
Yet another facet that Dak has no control over. Lack of running game is all Jerry cough cough look what Derrick Henry is doing in Baltimore what a judgment call on that.
 

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Uh, look, even Brady's beginning to stop making excuses for Dak and calling him out. It's just a matter of time for anybody who watches balls sailing everywhere.
They are all over the place. You'd think a $60 million a year quarterback could have just a tiny bit of accuracy. Nope. He throws the ball everywhere except between their numbers. 3 ft ahead, 3 ft behind, at their feet, well above their heads to get intercepted. He's all over the place. But I hear that's everyone else's fault except for his so that's one positive to take away from this.
 

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Yet another facet that Dak has no control over. Lack of running game is all Jerry cough cough look what Derrick Henry is doing in Baltimore what a judgment call on that.
GM Jethro did not even make a phone call.

Seriously??? This is our leader.
 

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How can you honestly believe that with what youve seen from him these past 9 seasons?

And also, hes never going to get everything
He needs around him. NEVER.

Hes had an elite running game. Hes had an elite receiving corp. Hes had elite olines. Hes had a good enough defense.

Only thing hes never had is good head coaching, but he will never get that here under this owner.
Because I look at his skill set. He’s a good QB. He’s not a great QB. He needs to be in the right system and have a talented roster around him. Dallas has failed him in that regard and again, one could argue he failed himself by not giving the FO more leverage to give him the talent he needs by negotiating a cap friendly deal.

When you’re a QB like Dak, one of the worst places, if not the worst, you could end up is Dallas where FA is an anathema and the FO almost completely relies on the draft to stock high end talent. The draft, even for good drafting teams, is way too hit and miss for a franchise to completely rely on it in order to build a championship roster.
 

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Because I look at his skill set. He’s a good QB. He’s not a great QB. He needs to be in the right system and have a talented roster around him. Dallas has failed him in that regard and again, one could argue he failed himself by not giving the FO more leverage to give him the talent he needs by negotiating a cap friendly deal.

When you’re a QB like Dak, one of the worst places, if not the worst, you could end up is Dallas where FA is an anathema and the FO almost completely relies on the draft to stock high end talent.
Just like every other QB.
 
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