Question for Those Who Feel Dak is All Stats No Substance

[TwoDeep3]

When the 4th Q starts and we're getting slaughtered here comes to the rescue garbage stat padding Dakko.
30-0 at the start of the 4th in the one below and Dak finishes with.....D. Prescott19-39, 232 YDS, 2 TD, 1 INT

If there was a GARBAGE HOF Dak would be a shoo-in!!!!

This is where I draw the line with you, Pappy. Because your example fits EVERY QB in this league since September 17, 1920 in Canton, Ohio when they get behind by more than 3 TD's early in a game.

They all try to make a comeback. Fact is, if you watched Staubach, it seemed more times than not Roger and his team fell behind until Staubach put on his Superhero outfit in the 4th quarter and won the game. And a nice little tidbit about those teams is it was in the era of Doomsday.

I cannot decide if Dak impregnated your spouse, or you just don't understand this game.

 

[Hadenough]

Dak and Romo are two peas in a pod in my opinion. Neither one could get it done in the post season. At least Romo never made a bunch of promises after getting paid like Dak that he had no interest in fulfilling.

Very good points! I think Romo was considerably more talented than Dak. The problem was he made some terrible mistakes. Dak doesn't even try to throw into those tight windows and therefore he just gets sacked.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

This is where I draw the line with you, Pappy. Because your example fits EVERY QB in this league since September 17, 1920 in Canton, Ohio when they get behind by more than 3 TD's early in a game.

They all try to make a comeback. Fact is, if you watched Staubach, it seemed more times than not Roger and his team fell behind until Staubach put on his Superhero outfit in the 4th quarter and won the game. And a nice little tidbit about those teams is it was in the era of Doomsday.

I cannot decide if Dak impregnated your spouse, or you just don't understand this game.

You keep your filthy mouth away from my family!
Then again what can one expect from a Dak lover?
Shame man you have reached new lows for this site!

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

Dak is has a record of 53-33 throughout his career. Please show me how it's possible to accumulate so many empty calories when his team is nearly always in the game late. He's also near the top in 4th qtr comeback wins since he became starter, so teams know what he can do, and play him accordingly. One could argue that the same could be said for Tony. Never understood this rhetoric aside from being agenda driven.

 

[Ranched]

Just because the Cowboys couldn’t build a great D around them doesn’t mean it wasn’t possible.

Other teams built great defenses around highly-paid QBs.

And that's the only reason Stafford has a ring. He couldn't do squat for 11 years w/Detroit. One playoff appearance & he couldn't even win that. Yet some in here call him elite. Talk about tunnel vision or just plain stupidity!

 

[TwoDeep3]

You keep your filthy mouth away from my family!
Then again what can one expect from a Dak lover?
Shame man you have reached new lows for this site!

Nice dodge, Pappy. You cannot carry on a discussion about this player in any rational way. No dialog, just bull nuggets.

As far as how low I can go, frankly you haven't been around long enough to know that answer.

 

[817Gill]

When the 4th Q starts and we're getting slaughtered here comes to the rescue garbage stat padding Dakko.
30-0 at the start of the 4th in the one below and Dak finishes with.....D. Prescott19-39, 232 YDS, 2 TD, 1 INT

If there was a GARBAGE HOF Dak would be a shoo-in!!!!

So you wanna answer the question? You know you can start your own thread for Dak versus Denver, not try to hijack mine.

Did you feel the same about Romo or not?

 

[Flamma]

Yeah I know so many Dak threads and believe me I’ve complained about it as well, but I have a genuine question I feel like would help me parse through if posters are genuine or not in this criticism.

For those who argue Dak is an empty stats guy, which I am not arguing for or against at this point, do you/did you feel the same about Romo?

Both guys have had some gaudy regular season stats only to not advance past the divisional, some playoff games they played well and some they didn’t.

I also don’t think either had crazy roster advantages over the other either. Both played on some really high end rosters and both played on some below average ones. Both had good coaching staffs and bad.

Did you/do you feel the same about Romo as Dak? If so, where did you rank Romo in his time playing, top 7/10/14?

In order to answer this question fairly, I'd have to think both QBs were similar in talent. I do not. I think Romo was considerably better. I don't have confidence that Dak can take us on a 2 minute drive at the end of the game. Even though he has done it.

I don't remember where I ranked him because I never thought of doing that. What's the point? What matters is his play on the field. What difference does it make if you're the 10th best QB but everyone after 7 sucks? Other years the 10th best QB could be really good. That top 10 stuff is just garbage.

 

[817Gill]

Here are a couple of questions I would like answered since 817Gill started a serious discussion about Dak, and Romo.

I have heard from many. many people on this board that if Romo had a defense....ect.

So, reviewing the history of Dak, other than his rookie season, when did Dak have a defense worth mentioning?

And if you can admit both Romo and Dak haven't had the defense, and both were sketchy against over .500 teams, how does that factor in?

My contention is Dak is a bus driver. I haven't always had that opinion. But I also think he is toward the top of the bus driver category. Which, like Romo accounts for the gaudy stats.

I see Dak as an area passer and Romo more surgical. But the results are statistically in the same ball park.

So if Romo could have gone deep in the play-offs had he a defense like the one we are seeing this year for Dallas, why would that opinion not apply to Dak?

Because bus drivers do win it all sometimes, when they have the right team around them.

This is the point I wanted to get to, thanks for breaking it down like that!

 

[zrinkill]

AWWW SWEEET

An argument thread started on purpose.

Nice

 

[zrinkill]

I’ve never understood the whole concept
Over a full season your stats compared to others is just the reality
Every player gets easy and hard stats
That’s just football but over the whole season no one player gets more padded stats than another really

 

[Hardline]

Romo would've won at least one Super Bowl with Payton and the Saints.

 

[mcmvp]

Yeah I know so many Dak threads and believe me I’ve complained about it as well, but I have a genuine question I feel like would help me parse through if posters are genuine or not in this criticism.

For those who argue Dak is an empty stats guy, which I am not arguing for or against at this point, do you/did you feel the same about Romo?

Both guys have had some gaudy regular season stats only to not advance past the divisional, some playoff games they played well and some they didn’t.

I also don’t think either had crazy roster advantages over the other either. Both played on some really high end rosters and both played on some below average ones. Both had good coaching staffs and bad.

Did you/do you feel the same about Romo as Dak? If so, where did you rank Romo in his time playing, top 7/10/14?

As years go by, acquiring good stats is becoming easier and easier for QBs. Romo wasn’t that long ago, but even he had a harder time than QBs do now.

But I do think Dak has had more “garbage time” stats than Romo did. I also feel Dak has had, on average, the better offensive roster around him…particularly along the oline

 

[ShortRound]

Yes I think both are just stat ladders until proven otherwise. What I don’t see from either is that “other gear” in the playoffs. Trent Dilfer was awful most of the time but that year he won it all, he was awesome in the playoffs and I remember being impressed with his play. I don’t recall Romo and Dak doing that in important games. Just being lights out.

 

[Bing]

Dak and Romo are the same. All Dallas did was change the number on the back of the jersey. Both QB's can be fun to watch at times but neither QB was or is going to lead the team deep into the post season

 

[Big D]

As years go by, acquiring good stats is becoming easier and easier for QBs. Romo wasn’t that long ago, but even he had a harder time than QBs do now.

But I do think Dak has had more “garbage time” stats than Romo did. I also feel Dak has had, on average, the better offensive roster around him…particularly along the oline

When did play for the full 60 mins become play through garbage time?

 

[DCwarrior]

If I had to pick between a prime Dak and a prime Romo, I’d take prime Romo.

All day everyday!

 

[dsturgeon]

My favorite thing out of the 2 of them, was watching Romo do his drop back, arm launches, ball takes off, camera changes, T.O. is 5 -10 yards pas the db, catch, touch down

 

[Cowpolk]

Yes, Romo was a stat padder also
He was just a better thrower of the ball
Both in it mostly for the money and both company men who will toe the company line and not make waves so Jerry is happy

Both are good QB's Romo had smarts and a bad body Dak has smarts slower reaction time But if used right he can win He has done it

 

[WillieBeamen]

The only thing that you compare between the two of them is the both played QB for the Dallas Cowboys

Romo wasnt a stat-padder ala Dak. He never tried to “protect his completion %” like Dak has admitted. He was always making risky throws for the sake of getting the team back in the game


Some of the Cowboys most memorable games in the Romo era came against good teams.

-Beating the 9-0 Colts

-Beating the 13-0 Saints

-Beating the defending Champs Hawks on the road in a place that was historically difficult to win

-Beating the eventual 13-3 Niners in the punctured lung game

-14-0 comeback vs the #2 ranked defense Lions in the playoffs

-Going to the Linc (both teams 9-4) and torching them basically guaranteeing the NFCE title


Most of Daks “memorable games” came in losses or against the terrible NFCE …