Quick Question about Henson

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You'll never hear me pan the idea of getting better at any position. No matter how much I like Henson, if we can get someone better, get him.

It would be silly to not think like this....

unfortunately there are some who put loyality to a individual player above the team... and in some cases the player gets screwed by the team but I believe in this day and age it is rare.

I liked Henson coming out of College and still think he has what it takes to not only be a good solid qb but potentially a great one...

If I am found to be wrong and Henson does not succeed...It won't be because he did not try or care..it will be because he just wasn't good enough and I can live with that and I bet he can live with that too...

But there are some that just hate on the guy...for no other reason then he wanted to give baseball a try... Look playing baseball is like picking Daisies compared to football which is like catching bullets with your face and if you can make more money picking Daisies why not give it a try first...afterall who wants to scream in pain every morning after retiring from the game of football because the body is broken...If I had the talent to do both I would play baseball though I love football a ton more...

To me it was an excellent business decision on his part...he tried the one and for what ever reason it did not work out... now he can devote his heart to his passion..
 

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Zaxor said:
It would be silly to not think like this....

unfortunately there are some who put loyality to a individual player above the team... and in some cases the player gets screwed by the team but I believe in this day and age it is rare.

I liked Henson coming out of College and still think he has what it takes to not only be a good solid qb but potentially a great one...

If I am found to be wrong and Henson does not succeed...It won't be because he did not try or care..it will be because he just wasn't good enough and I can live with that and I bet he can live with that too...

But there are some that just hate on the guy...for no other reason then he wanted to give baseball a try... Look playing baseball is like picking Daisies compared to football which is like catching bullets with your face and if you can make more money picking Daisies why not give it a try first...afterall who wants to scream in pain every morning after retiring from the game of football because the body is broken...If I had the talent to do both I would play baseball though I love football a ton more...

To me it was an excellent business decision on his part...he tried the one and for what ever reason it did not work out... now he can devote his heart to his passion..
Great post Zax.

I see a lot of potential in Henson. It's exciting. Every person on this board who has seen him throw live says the same thing. He just needs work because he's not ready. I can be patient. No big deal. There are people here who have given up on him and that is baffling. At least to me. The funniest are the people who are virtually rooting for him to fail just so they can thump their chests. I could never do that, but hey whatever blows their skirts up.

As much as I like him though, if a QB is there in round 1 and we take him, I'll be fine with it. If that QB beats him out I'll be fine with it. I want what is best for the team. That's why I've never had an issue with Romo being #2. If they feel that is better for the team, so be it. I'm admitedly not as high on Romo, but so what. I do want to see the young get some PT in garbage time. I'll admit that bothers me.
 

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Great post Zax.

I see a lot of potential in Henson. It's exciting. Every person on this board who has seen him throw live says the same thing. He just needs work because he's not ready. I can be patient. No big deal. There are people here who have given up on him and that is baffling. At least to me. The funniest are the people who are virtually rooting for him to fail just so they can thump their chests. I could never do that, but hey whatever blows their skirts up.

As much as I like him though, if a QB is there in round 1 and we take him, I'll be fine with it. If that QB beats him out I'll be fine with it. I want what is best for the team. That's why I've never had an issue with Romo being #2. If they feel that is better for the team, so be it. I'm admitedly not as high on Romo, but so what. I do want to see the young get some PT in garbage time. I'll admit that bothers me.

In a way I am hoping Henson goes to NFLE...(purely selfish) my 2 sons and I are hoping he gets to the Fire, Galaxy, or Centurians so we can go and watch his games in person...

If we draft a QB in rnd 1 or rnd 21 as long as he is a Cowboy I will be rooting for him to do well...but that by no means...means that he or anyone else is above critisim...its the unjust critisim that I have a hard time understanding... like with Henson when I asked why the hate I got he chose baseball over football... for the life of me I can not see how that should be a reason for even a slight dislike but for such venomous hatred by some posters it is unreal...

I think our mind set is not unique at all on this board a good 95% of the posters I believe feel the same way its the 5% that freak me out...I am no physicatrist but I think something maybe mentally/emotionally wrong with them...
 

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Zaxor said:
In a way I am hoping Henson goes to NFLE...(purely selfish) my 2 sons and I are hoping he gets to the Fire, Galaxy, or Centurians so we can go and watch his games in person...

If we draft a QB in rnd 1 or rnd 21 as long as he is a Cowboy I will be rooting for him to do well...but that by no means...means that he or anyone else is above critisim...its the unjust critisim that I have a hard time understanding... like with Henson when I asked why the hate I got he chose baseball over football... for the life of me I can not see how that should be a reason for even a slight dislike but for such venomous hatred by some posters it is unreal...

I think our mind set is not unique at all on this board a good 95% of the posters I believe feel the same way its the 5% that freak me out...I am no physicatrist but I think something maybe mentally/emotionally wrong with them...
I agree on the 5%.

Here's to the other 95%.
 

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Zaxor said:
In a way I am hoping Henson goes to NFLE...(purely selfish) my 2 sons and I are hoping he gets to the Fire, Galaxy, or Centurians so we can go and watch his games in person...

If we draft a QB in rnd 1 or rnd 21 as long as he is a Cowboy I will be rooting for him to do well...but that by no means...means that he or anyone else is above critisim...its the unjust critisim that I have a hard time understanding... like with Henson when I asked why the hate I got he chose baseball over football... for the life of me I can not see how that should be a reason for even a slight dislike but for such venomous hatred by some posters it is unreal...

I think our mind set is not unique at all on this board a good 95% of the posters I believe feel the same way its the 5% that freak me out...I am no physicatrist but I think something maybe mentally/emotionally wrong with them...

Keep bringing it my friend......I couldn't agree more. :)
 

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No, the QB is not shakier. One reason the team is better is because the play at QB is better. Period.

There's no surprise there and it isn't a sleight on Carter to say Bledsoe is simply better because he is a better QB in most facets of the game.

Those are the facts and no amount of false spin control is going to change that. There isn't 1 team in the NFL who would take Carter over Bledsoe at any time over the last 5 years. Not a single one. It's time for you to realize that and move on with your life.

And the fact that many of those teams have chosen Vinny who can't play anymore or Kyle Orton who is no good at all or AJ Feely and wont make the playoffs or will get run in the first round tells you they are smart. Maybe you think that Mariuchi was smart in passing on a qb who had a collective qb rating of over a 100 against his teams in favor of Joey Harrington or Jeff Garcia, both of whom Carter owns is smart football, but that's crazy. Mariuchi would still have his job if he had chosen Carter instead. I don't care that you don't like Carter or me or whoever. You can say what you like about Carter, but it doesn't change the fact that this team hasn't been winning consistently since he left, even with all the so-called 'upgrades'. You feel satisfied about Carter being gone, then get used to feeling satisfied about not making the playoffs. As for the NFL teams that didn't sign him, if they're so smart, how come the ones that had lousy qbing will be watching the playoffs at home and some of those coaches will deservingly lose their jobs. Move on yourself.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
And with that...he could not keep off the drugs.

Look...you have nobody to blame for QC not being with the cowboys any longer.

He burnt his self.

All the whining and man love will not take that away.

Any whining and 'man love' I have for Carter is much worthwhile is much more rational than people pining away for Henson.

You guys do realize that you'll never change my thinking on Carter and I really don't care what you think. This is just good fun to me. I can say with a high degree of certainty that Henson will never pan out and is wasting better prospects time on our roster. As for Carter, he qb'ed us to the playoffs, something that Pelleur or Hogeboom or Ryan Lief or Vinny and so far Bledsoe couldn't do. You can't ever take that from him or me. Have a nice day. Goodbye.
 

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blindzebra said:
We are sad and pathetic?

You are putting one player over the team.

You only post if Bledsoe has a poor game...I'd say that means you are in fact rooting for Bledsoe AND THUS THE COWBOYS to fail.

Your idol was last on a team that lost 3 QBs to injury and yet they did not even consider calling Carter, why?

Perhaps because they know he failed another test and is facing a 4 game suspension, and if all the reports are correct, that suspension is now one year because he filed retirement papers.

Something is sad and pathetic, care to guess what?

Listen to yourself, what kind of logic is that. The Jets have no qb at all. They are a laughing stock, they can't get any worse, they have nothing to lose. Having Quincy available for 12 of 16 games is better than 'no qb' at all for 16 games.
 

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Listen to yourself, what kind of logic is that. The Jets have no qb at all. They are a laughing stock, they can't get any worse, they have nothing to lose. Having Quincy available for 12 of 16 games is better than 'no qb' at all for 16 games.

Also, you can file for retirement or unretire in a matter of days. Paperwork is nothing. Going by that, Vinny,Bollinger and Pennington might as well file for retirement because they aren't any good at ll.
 

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Listen to yourself, what kind of logic is that. The Jets have no qb at all. They are a laughing stock, they can't get any worse, they have nothing to lose. Having Quincy available for 12 of 16 games is better than 'no qb' at all for 16 games.

An out of football shape Quincy? Yeah, I'm sure Herm and the front office are burning up the phone line's trying to reach Q-Polar. LOL They'd be better going after Jeff George.
 

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You can say what you like about Carter, but it doesn't change the fact that this team hasn't been winning consistently since he left, even with all the so-called 'upgrades'


ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE DID WIN CONSISTANTLY WHEN HE WAS HERE?
 

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aikemirv said:
You are QC aren't you - that would be the only explanation for this!

Quincy always referred to himself in the third person anyway so who could tell!!

If I had his money, I wouldn't be talking to you Bozo's. Do you really think that somebody who actually got drafted in the NFL and led a team to the playoffs would waste his time jawing with you guys. You guys criticize him, he would say, I beat out Hutch and Romo, but Hutch and Romo would put all of you guys on the bench. Guys who never played in college, let alone competed in the NFL make fun of him, you're a joke. I never played either, but at least I know better than belittle a playoff qb, which Romo and Henson are not and Bledsoe hasn't been in a long time. As for my loyalty to the team, people here hate on the coaches and players they don't like all the time that are on the team. Just cause a player is not on the team now doesn't mean he won't come back as we have a few and just cause a player is not in the NFL now, doesn't mean he won't ever come back. Get real. Nothing is carved in stone in the NFL.
 

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Wrong again. When they laugh at you it is because you are clinging to something that the team has moved on from and you're trying to sell people who weren't sold on him then that we'd be better off now.

No one sees it. No one is going to see it. There isn't a gaping need for a drug abuser on this team. No one wants him to get his life together more than I do. But you're hanging on to a fairy tale like it is our only hope. Quite frankly it's funny and you get the brunt of it because it's your silly sermon with facts changed to fiction.

Not one person on this forum wants this team to lose if they are a Cowboys fan. The thing you accused people of is funny because you're the one guilty of it. You're upset that Bledsoe is winning games because it lessens the liklihood Q-ball is ever coming back. There was no chance of that anyway. He wasn't that good. If he was near as good as you preach he'd have a job. It's really just that simple.

Bledsoe is the major contributor in all our loses. Look, the media loves Bill Parcells and wants him to win, but they don't believe in Bledsoe. Believing in Bledsoe will be the thing that keeps this team from getting better. Many of the draft publications have Dallas taking a qb this year and as the season continues it will get only worse. As for Carter, if Mariuchi had picked him, he'd still have a job. It's rumoured that some 8-10 teams will fire their coaches this year, that means that not only the coaches failed,but the guys who picked them failed too, which tells you that NFL is in a fowl state at the qb position and beggars can't be choosers.

Look at the nonsense going on in Chicago. There's a qb controversy between Orton and Grossman. Well, Orton's 60 qb rating says that he's playing badly,but Grossman is undersized and injury prone and has less starts than Orton with 6 starts in 3 years. It's not a qb controversy if neither one is any good. The real controversy is why Jeff Blake, who I believe is healthy and has more experience(5 times as many starts as both of them put together) is not in the mix. Sure he's mediocre, but that's still better than where the other two are. For that matter, put Quincy in that offense and Chicago has a real chance of doing something in the playoffs cause he's better than all of them.
Furthermore, I wouldn't have wasted a first round pick on a 'Florida qb' whose is undersized and injury prone. Yeah, I'm really impressed Jerry Angelo for that pick. Not.
 

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kartr said:
Listen to yourself, what kind of logic is that. The Jets have no qb at all. They are a laughing stock, they can't get any worse, they have nothing to lose. Having Quincy available for 12 of 16 games is better than 'no qb' at all for 16 games.

Get a freaking clue.

If Q was worth it, than why wouldn't a team without a QB have him on the roster?

You always slide past that question don't you?

The Jets took a chance on him, their coach is a player's coach who believes in second chances and will take risks on players, yet as dire as their need at QB is, no Carter.

And my logic is bad.

We are bozo's and fools.

What a joke.

Way past time to pull the plug on this troll, WAY, WAY PAST TIME.
 

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Also, you can file for retirement or unretire in a matter of days. Paperwork is nothing. Going by that, Vinny,Bollinger and Pennington might as well file for retirement because they aren't any good at ll.

If you retire while in the substance program, it counts as another failed test.

But when have the facts ever gotten in the way with your obsession?
 

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If I had his money, I wouldn't be talking to you Bozo's. Do you really think that somebody who actually got drafted in the NFL and led a team to the playoffs would waste his time jawing with you guys. You guys criticize him, he would say, I beat out Hutch and Romo, but Hutch and Romo would put all of you guys on the bench. Guys who never played in college, let alone competed in the NFL make fun of him, you're a joke. I never played either, but at least I know better than belittle a playoff qb, which Romo and Henson are not and Bledsoe hasn't been in a long time. As for my loyalty to the team, people here hate on the coaches and players they don't like all the time that are on the team. Just cause a player is not on the team now doesn't mean he won't come back as we have a few and just cause a player is not in the NFL now, doesn't mean he won't ever come back. Get real. Nothing is carved in stone in the NFL.
Hey guess what genius, once again you are wrong. There are several people on this forum who did play in college. A good many posters on this forum do know football. If Mr. Carter ever did happen to speak to me face to face I'd say to him exactly what I say on these forums. No punches pulled. Right to his face. I seriously doubt he'd have much problem with it.
 

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And the fact that many of those teams have chosen Vinny who can't play anymore or Kyle Orton who is no good at all or AJ Feely and wont make the playoffs or will get run in the first round tells you they are smart. Maybe you think that Mariuchi was smart in passing on a qb who had a collective qb rating of over a 100 against his teams in favor of Joey Harrington or Jeff Garcia, both of whom Carter owns is smart football, but that's crazy. Mariuchi would still have his job if he had chosen Carter instead. I don't care that you don't like Carter or me or whoever. You can say what you like about Carter, but it doesn't change the fact that this team hasn't been winning consistently since he left, even with all the so-called 'upgrades'. You feel satisfied about Carter being gone, then get used to feeling satisfied about not making the playoffs. As for the NFL teams that didn't sign him, if they're so smart, how come the ones that had lousy qbing will be watching the playoffs at home and some of those coaches will deservingly lose their jobs. Move on yourself.
Here's the bottom line and you can't deny it, NFL teams don't agree with your assessments.
 

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Nors said:
Romo is our backup - fact

Bledsoe is starting and we are in the playoffs today.

Capiche?

We are a win or two away from being all over this. Gloomers unite and get a room.

I'm with ya. Spot on! I know this is a Henson thread, but we are indeed staring the playoffs down this very minute, and our QB under center is Drew Bledsoe.

We are indeed a win or two away from being all up in this! :star:
 

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Also, you can file for retirement or unretire in a matter of days. Paperwork is nothing. Going by that, Vinny,Bollinger and Pennington might as well file for retirement because they aren't any good at ll.


Fling for retirement while in the drug treatment program counts as a positive test
 
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