Quick Question about Henson

[Hiero]

If you say so.

I just did.

 

[Hostile]

I just did.

Yeah I know. I figure if you say so it has to be true. After all, you are the QB consultant for Sean Payton, et al. From now on, I'll ignore Parcells and Jerry when they talk about him and refer all progress on our QBs to your report.

 

[Alexander]

If Henson had as much PT as Losman he'd be further along than Losman.

And how do you know this?

I call that getting a chance.

Getting a chance in what way? Would you play him tomorrow if Bledsoe got hurt? Would you just throw caution to the wind and decide the day the season ends that Henson is going to get his chance come hell or highwater as Buffalo did?

Henson's "chance" comes in the form of him earning a backup spot. Other chances need to perhaps come in Europe. You don't put developmental "chances" out there when you are trying to build a champion. Buffalo is living breathing proof of that.

 

[Doomsday101]

And how do you know this?



Getting a chance in what way? Would you play him tomorrow if Bledsoe got hurt? Would you just throw caution to the wind and decide the day the season ends that Henson is going to get his chance come hell or highwater as Buffalo did?

Henson's "chance" comes in the form of him earning a backup spot. Other chances need to perhaps come in Europe. You don't put developmental "chances" out there when you are trying to build a champion. Buffalo is living breathing proof of that.

Honestly none of us can make a true statement in regards to Henson because we don't know how he is progressing at this stage and Bill clearly is not going to talk about this issue during the middle of the season. One way or the other I think Henson future will be determined during this upcoming off-season and training camp.

 

[Hiero]

Yeah I know. I figure if you say so it has to be true. After all, you are the QB consultant for Sean Payton, et al. From now on, I'll ignore Parcells and Jerry when they talk about him and refer all progress on our QBs to your report.

It's called an opinion. Nobody can know for sure, I just dont see anything happening with Henson. Obviously you're a henson fan.

 

[Alexander]

Honestly none of us can make a true statement in regards to Henson because we don't know how he is progressing at this stage and Bill clearly is not going to talk about this issue during the middle of the season. One way or the other I think Henson future will be determined during this upcoming off-season and training camp.

I agree. I am not saying he will make it or won't.

I am saying I really don't care unless he can go out and earn it. You don't hand something over to someone who hasn't earned it just because they have this "pedigree" thing or that we spent a draft choice. If that's the case, Stephen Peterman has pedigree and we need to play him instead of the two other guards we start. He hasn't earned it and therefore he doesn't play.

It is up to him to compete and win something. A backup job is the first step.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I agree. I am not saying he will make it or won't.

I am saying I really don't care unless he can go out and earn it. You don't hand something over to someone who hasn't earned it just because they have this "pedigree" thing or that we spent a draft choice.

It seems that that happens very often in the NFL. You have a "pedigree" and you are handed the reigns to the offense and they TRY to build it around you as you learn. ala Eli Manning and others

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree. I am not saying he will make it or won't.

I am saying I really don't care unless he can go out and earn it. You don't hand something over to someone who hasn't earned it just because they have this "pedigree" thing or that we spent a draft choice. If that's the case, Stephen Peterman has pedigree and we need to play him instead of the two other guards we start. He hasn't earned it and therefore he doesn't play.

It is up to him to compete and win something. A backup job is the first step.

I agree with you, Henson has to show himself as the QB of this team on the practice field just like any other QB. I'm only stressing that none of us know how Henson is doing at this stage. I still have hope that he will show himself as the QB that many scouts raved about in college. We will just have to wait and see. In the meantime I would also not pass up drafting a QB this off-season if the opportunity presents itself.

 

[Doomsday101]

It seems that that happens very often in the NFL. You have a "pedigree" and you are handed the reigns to the offense and they TRY to build it around you as you learn. ala Eli Manning and others

Eli started his rookie year but midway in 2004 season and a lot had to do with the lack of confidence the Giants had in Warner. It is not like they handed him the job from the get go.

 

[Hostile]

It's called an opinion. Nobody can know for sure, I just dont see anything happening with Henson. Obviously you're a henson fan.

Obviously I am. If you read closely though I am not saying absolutely one way or the other what will happen with him. You're throwing out an absolute. Therein lies the difference.

 

[Cbz40]

In my opinion Henson or Romo have not been given a chance to develop simply because Parcells hasn't or not wanted to take the time to do so.

With a 4 year contract I can understand his lack of patience contending with a young QB but unfortunately bringing in the retreads as not been proven to be the answer as yet either. We see the Vet start off well in the first 8 games and physically and mentally drained the second half of the season.

It will have been a travisty if BP leaves after next season and we still do not have a young QB ready to take the helm. Oh! you say, just go out and bring in another wiley old vet. Yea sure!It's real exciting watching them wilt in front of our eyes in the second half of the season.

It is past time, lets say 11 years late, to either be grooming someone that we have or signing or drafting someone to groom.


Needless to say I am still not convinced we can get to where we want to be by bringing in someone elses rejects.

 

[Hostile]

And how do you know this?

I never said I know it, but I do think he has much better tools than Losman.

Getting a chance in what way? Would you play him tomorrow if Bledsoe got hurt? Would you just throw caution to the wind and decide the day the season ends that Henson is going to get his chance come hell or highwater as Buffalo did?

If Bledsoe got hurt, yes I would play Henson and let him sink or swim.

I don't have a problem with what Buffalo did or what the Giants did in throwing caution to the wind and letting the young QB take their lumps.

Henson's "chance" comes in the form of him earning a backup spot. Other chances need to perhaps come in Europe. You don't put developmental "chances" out there when you are trying to build a champion. Buffalo is living breathing proof of that.

He's already earned a backup spot. Evidenced by the fact he has a roster spot. If it is a crime for me to think he's got something by all means press charges. I'll plead guilty and save the trial.

 

[Hiero]

honestly even if I did think Henson had a chance to be starting QB i'd still love to bring someone else young in to compete with him. I don't want to take a chance on such a big risk, the risk that a guy who's quit football for baseball can ever turn back into a football player. Very high risk that he will ever be starter, although i love that we took a shot on getting him. I want to know for sure that when Parcells leaves or by the end of next year who our future QB is. I dont want to keep hoping and dreaming Henson can turn it around without bringing in someone else as insurance.

 

[Hostile]

honestly even if I did think Henson had a chance to be starting QB i'd still love to bring someone else young in to compete with him. I don't want to take a chance on such a big risk, the risk that a guy who's quit football for baseball can ever turn back into a football player. Very high risk that he will ever be starter, although i love that we took a shot on getting him. I want to know for sure that when Parcells leaves or by the end of next year who our future QB is. I dont want to keep hoping and dreaming Henson can turn it around without bringing in someone else as insurance.

You'll never hear me pan the idea of getting better at any position. No matter how much I like Henson, if we can get someone better, get him.

 

[Hiero]

You'll never hear me pan the idea of gettign better at any position. No matter how much I like Henson, if we can get someone better, get him.

really hard to tell who is "better" perse but someone of equal talent to compete with him at the very least as insurance/backup plan not putting your eggs all in one basket whatever ya wanna call it.

 

[Nors]

Bledsoe beat out Romo
Romo beat out Henson year 2
Henson has started 8 1/2 games since 1997. Thats going on 9 years ago.

Year 3 is the year to Show Parcells something. Thats his big line.....

 

[Hiero]

Bledsoe beat out Romo
Romo beat out Henson year 2
Henson has started 8 1/2 games since 1997. Thats going on 9 years ago.

Year 3 is the year to Show Parcells something. Thats his big line.....

I agree with you on the timing. Henson better prove something or we need to get someone else in there to compete in 2006 draft, and at the very latest 2007.

 

[silver]

When you laugh at him and laugh at me, you're laughing at our lack of success without him and that's just dumb in wanting to lose without him instead of winning with him. Sad and pathetic fans you are.

are you quincy? nobody wants to lose period. i don't care if our qb is blind in one eye, bow legged and has bad breath as long as he wins. but when my qb has a drug problem he can't control then he has nobody to blame but himself. having said that, if quincy was any good, the team would've sent him to rehab and done everything possible to cure him of his evils before handing him his pink slip. BP never cut LT even though the league suspended him for drugs. Marv Levy never cut Bruce Smith for the same reason. We hung on to Leon Lett after all those suspensions. but LT, Bruce Smith and Leon Lett were all very talented players at the top of the list in the NFL. Quincy was just a mediocre player who wasn't worth the effort. sorta like Sherman Williams and Derek Ross, players you can afford to lose.

 

[Hostile]

Someone left the gate open again.

 

[silver]

Someone left the gate open again.

sorry, my bad