Quick Question about Henson

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kartr said:
Because we were better with that player who is no longer on the team. We routed the likes of Detroit on their own field, not sleepwalk to pitiful lackluster 20-7 win. That player also never lost to the Skins and always played well against the Giants and beat the Eagles when they were good even though he had a less talented team than the one we have now. Big difference between him and the likes of Henson who can't even beat out Romo. We would be laughing at Washington if they were pinning their hopes on Henson as their qb of the future. If we had Washington's qbs and they had ours, we would be laughing at the idea that they thought (Bledsoe,Romo and Henson) had more potential.

What are you talking about?

It is a Cowboys board, therefore any Cowboys player is not as off topic as TO is!!!
 

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aikemirv said:
What are you talking about?

It is a Cowboys board, therefore any Cowboys player is not as off topic as TO is!!!

Well, he is talking about his hero, Quincy Carter. Apparently he was an all-pro player that Cowboys and rest of NFL just didn't recognize, and he wasn't snorting anything, cause that was just Sugar Powder :D
 

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kartr said:
Because we were better with that player who is no longer on the team. We routed the likes of Detroit on their own field, not sleepwalk to pitiful lackluster 20-7 win. That player also never lost to the Skins and always played well against the Giants and beat the Eagles when they were good even though he had a less talented team than the one we have now.

That player was not the same player that we "would get" now. That player is using drugs, is unreliable and is still mentally challenged. If he were here, we would be coping with his instability, not to mention his obvious mental limitations at the position.

And why you are talking about beating a different Detroit team two years ago and using that as a benchmark defies explanation and is utterly laughable.

Get over it. He is not coming back, and there is a very good chance he will never play a down in this league again.
 

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Well, he is talking about his hero, Quincy Carter. Apparently he was an all-pro player that Cowboys and rest of NFL just didn't recognize, and he wasn't snorting anything, cause that was just Sugar Powder :D

Quincy who?
 

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aikemirv said:
This is how things get taken out of context.

the quote by Parcells was

"Romo is not as sharp as he was in preseason"

But you now say he is struggling - there is a big difference!

Henson= crap
? for you - Have you seen 1 single practice since the season began?

How in the world would you know?!!!!!

The facts are that Romo couldn't even come close to moving ahead of Carter or Hutch and it wasn't even close on Romo vs Henson. Parcells says that he goes by what he sees and if he sees that Romo, who has little talent, is significantly better. That says it all. The word on second year qb's is that by their second year, they make the biggest jump. We saw that in Carter, we see that in Romo, we see it in Eli Manning, but Henson regresses. Parcells says that he recognized that Carter was better than Hutch from the beginning, both in practice and in games, don't you think that he can figure the difference between Romo and Henson after seeing Henson for a whole year. With his experience, Bill knows who can play and who can't pretty quick. Keeping Henson around now is more of a face-saving move than anything.
 

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Kratr, Dude...I am not playing in the NFL...I have to sort out things in my own life,
How about getting off my jock.

:D
 

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No we weren't better.

Parcells himself said this is a better team. I wouldn't be laughing at Washington if the were pinning their hopes on Henson as their QB of the future. Just like I won't laugh at Campbell as their QB of the future.

Okay, you got me there, you're right, the team is better, but the quarterback is shakier, because there's no hope that Bledsoe will improve after 13 years. All that qb rating stuff, which is more of a reflection of the team rather than an individual is beginning to slid down hill and mainly because the current qb is not a difference maker, at least to his own team. But in 2003 with a month to play we new we were going to the playoffs, this year, it's very much in doubt because our more experienced qb with a better supporting cast in a year when the NFC sucks still sucks more. Jason Campbell vs Henson. Is that a joke? Campbell led a team to a 13-0 record last year, he's certainly no long shot and would surely have surpassed Romo by now on the roster.
 

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I disagree, Henson has not seen the field but for a single half and a bit of another...

So Nobody has had a chance to see enough of his in game performance to make any assessments at all... Not Bill, Not Jerry, Not Shaun and certainly not Katr... so all we have to go on still is the pedigree and he still has it like it or not... even if he was playing for Washington or Timbukto

What kind of a pedigree can a part time qb have? What kind of a pedigree can a qb who can't beat out Romo have? Why all the misplaced hoopla on a guy who hasn't done a thing for this organization and who's only start was worse than the Bears qb's of last year. Henson's play was the only thing that kept the Bears in that game.
 

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kartr said:
Okay, you got me there, you're right, the team is better, but the quarterback is shakier, because there's no hope that Bledsoe will improve after 13 years. All that qb rating stuff, which is more of a reflection of the team rather than an individual is beginning to slid down hill and mainly because the current qb is not a difference maker, at least to his own team. But in 2003 with a month to play we new we were going to the playoffs, this year, it's very much in doubt because our more experienced qb with a better supporting cast in a year when the NFC sucks still sucks more. Jason Campbell vs Henson. Is that a joke? Campbell led a team to a 13-0 record last year, he's certainly no long shot and would surely have surpassed Romo by now on the roster.


From all indications and reports I have read...they feel campbell will not be ready this year OR next year.

He may be the franchise QB down the road, but from all indications they feel he is a project that will require a couple of years before he will even get a chance to start on a regular basis.

Not ripping him one way or the other.
 

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kartr said:
All that qb rating stuff, which is more of a reflection of the team

:lmao2:

Right. That is why they are called "individual statistics".

Wins are not factored into QB rating. If so, Carter would have had one above mediocre.
 

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Alexander said:
That player was not the same player that we "would get" now. That player is using drugs, is unreliable and is still mentally challenged. If he were here, we would be coping with his instability, not to mention his obvious mental limitations at the position.

And why you are talking about beating a different Detroit team two years ago and using that as a benchmark defies explanation and is utterly laughable.

Get over it. He is not coming back, and there is a very good chance he will never play a down in this league again.

Maybe you're right about him not playing again, but other players allowed to play again and as for Detroit, we have more weapons now and had them at home and yet we struggled more with them this time around. How do you know what Quincy is doing right now, how do you know what his mental state is. If he is not using drugs and is still not back in the NFL, then maybe the Chicago Bears, Oakland Raiders, Miami Dolphins,Detroit Lions, the Jets are using some qb measuring stick that I'm not familiar with and when we are sitting at home this off season talking about next year, somewhere Quincy will be laughing at us.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
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Kratr, Dude...I am not playing in the NFL...I have to sort out things in my own life,
How about getting off my jock.



:D

That is so weak. With him as our qb, we were 12th in the NFL in passing yardage and without Emmit Smith as our rb or go to receiver. Everybody wasn't writing us off from the playoffs either that year.
 

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kartr said:
Okay, you got me there, you're right, the team is better, but the quarterback is shakier, because there's no hope that Bledsoe will improve after 13 years. All that qb rating stuff, which is more of a reflection of the team rather than an individual is beginning to slid down hill and mainly because the current qb is not a difference maker, at least to his own team. But in 2003 with a month to play we new we were going to the playoffs, this year, it's very much in doubt because our more experienced qb with a better supporting cast in a year when the NFC sucks still sucks more. Jason Campbell vs Henson. Is that a joke? Campbell led a team to a 13-0 record last year, he's certainly no long shot and would surely have surpassed Romo by now on the roster.
No, the QB is not shakier. One reason the team is better is because the play at QB is better. Period.

There's no surprise there and it isn't a sleight on Carter to say Bledsoe is simply better because he is a better QB in most facets of the game.

Those are the facts and no amount of false spin control is going to change that. There isn't 1 team in the NFL who would take Carter over Bledsoe at any time over the last 5 years. Not a single one. It's time for you to realize that and move on with your life.
 

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kartr said:
That is so weak. With him as our qb, we were 12th in the NFL in passing yardage and without Emmit Smith as our rb or go to receiver. Everybody wasn't writing us off from the playoffs either that year.


And with that...he could not keep off the drugs.

Look...you have nobody to blame for QC not being with the cowboys any longer.

He burnt his self.

All the whining and man love will not take that away.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
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Kratr, Dude...I am not playing in the NFL...I have to sort out things in my own life,
How about getting off my jock.



:D

When you laugh at him and laugh at me, you're laughing at our lack of success without him and that's just dumb in wanting to lose without him instead of winning with him. Sad and pathetic fans you are.
 

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kartr said:
Maybe you're right about him not playing again

So, why would you pine away for a player that will never play again?

You do realize you are making no sense and are basically crying over something that won't take place and the prospects are stronger in your strange fantasies than they were ever if based in reality.

How do you know what Quincy is doing right now, how do you know what his mental state is.

You really need to listen to the interview he had a few weeks back. All that did was confirm what a sad paranoid mental case he is. I suggest you listen to it if you can.
 

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kartr said:
When you laugh at him and laugh at me, you're laughing at our lack of success without him and that's just dumb in wanting to lose without him instead of winning with him. Sad and pathetic fans you are.


Blah Blah Blah....He cared more about drugs then he did about being the QB for the Dallas Cowboys and did the same thing with the NY Jets.

Don't try to twist it around...if he was still here it would be one thing but he is not...and the reason he is not is by his own hand.

Get over it.
 

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When you laugh at him and laugh at me, you're laughing at our lack of success without him and that's just dumb in wanting to lose without him instead of winning with him. Sad and pathetic fans you are.

We are sad and pathetic?

You are putting one player over the team.

You only post if Bledsoe has a poor game...I'd say that means you are in fact rooting for Bledsoe AND THUS THE COWBOYS to fail.

Your idol was last on a team that lost 3 QBs to injury and yet they did not even consider calling Carter, why?

Perhaps because they know he failed another test and is facing a 4 game suspension, and if all the reports are correct, that suspension is now one year because he filed retirement papers.

Something is sad and pathetic, care to guess what?
 

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kartr said:
When you laugh at him and laugh at me, you're laughing at our lack of success without him and that's just dumb in wanting to lose without him instead of winning with him. Sad and pathetic fans you are.

You are QC aren't you - that would be the only explanation for this!

Quincy always referred to himself in the third person anyway so who could tell!!
 

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aikemirv said:
You are QC aren't you - that would be the only explanation for this!

I really hope he is. Otherwise there is one very illogical person running around that I sincerely hope does not decide to breed.
 
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