Quinn has to figure out better answers defending the read-option

baltcowboy

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With their newly signed contracts, I don’t expect Hurts or Jones to be running the ball like they did last season because they were playing for contracts. Both quarterbacks will try to prove that they can win with their arms next season.
 

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A retraction and apology is still in order from the OP.

Quinn and players have been assailed as failures over something where they in fact EXCELLED.

MUST VIEW: My previous post.
 

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A retraction and apology is still in order from the OP.

Quinn and players have been assailed as failures over something where they in fact EXCELLED.

MUST VIEW: My previous post.
Easy, fella'...
 

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Guys like Jackson are especially difficult, because he's really quick and slippery and can avoid big hits. Kyler Murray, also.

In Jackson's case, I think you just run more zone because he's not going to beat you with his arm.

With Kyler, the focus isn't really there to capitalize on his passing ability combined with his phenomenal speed consistently.
Contain them, know what is coming at you. DC's will get it all figured out.
 

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RB's playing QB, yeah that is the way to win. But I guess if it works a few years out of 10. Go for it.

Wild Cat, Run & Shoot, how long and how successful did those really last. Warren Moon and stat lovers probably loved it.
 

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Our biggest problem with the read option has been guys holding the edge and our DTs not being able to stuff the middle. our aggressive style of play works against us sometimes. Fat boys in the middle need to do their job (including keeping backers free) and whomever has edge responsibility needs to do theirs. A tackling machine in the middle would also help but that doesn't seem to be on our roster as long as Micah is playing edge. I think we will do a much better job this year as It's all related. When our front 7 is able to stop the run better on their own it allows our DBs to focus less on needing to be there to help out. Also, giving up fewer yards on the ground on first and second down will help as teams won't be able to just keep running the read option on any down. I think our hopefully improved run defense will help the defense to be more dominant and at all 3 levels and on all downs.
 

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:muttley: The correct term is mobile trash cans full of dirt.
 

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Nowadays seems like you don't have an OLB backing up the DE so when he gets suckered in no one is left outside to hit the QB. With 4-2-5 alignments you can be run on .....unless you have a spy on the QB which is what DQ should have.

And then you have QB who can slide to prevent having his head bashed in. Easy pickings.
DE's need to play with more discipline. I know it's easier said then done, but they have to play more read and react then flying up the field.
 

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Will the NFL let you plant a QB?
A mobile QB is always a problem, look at 2016 Dak vs todays version.
Quinn will have this defense ripped they will make him pay, we have the weapons.
Just "tackle" Jalen Hurts the way Dak was "tackled" in 2020. Should still be legal since the NFL refused to condemn thar type of "tackle". Same kind of "tackle" which injured Tony Pollard's lower leg during this past 49ers playoff game.
 

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Defenses will have to find a way to do like in the "old days" (not going to date myself, you older folks like me can figure it out), dictate to the offense. No team is going to run the read option of they have half the other team's defense hanging out on the edge (not that they can do that, I'm just giving an silly example), with too many players to block, e.g.

Remember the Wildcat was very successful, but only for a short time, DC's figured out how to defend it, and you don't see the Wildcat much anymore.
The read option has had a much longer shelf life due to all the athletic QB's entering this league, teams still have major struggles stopping it.
 

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Yet alone #11 who thinks every play is a pass play leaving wide lanes open for stuff like this!
This is of other major issue with our run defense, which I discussed in a prior post. Quinn has started to take him away as a early down edge rusher to fix this.
 

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Not just the Cowboys, but teams throughout the league struggled defending the read-option. Fields, Hurts, Jones even Driskel had major success running the read-option against our defense. DLaw looked totally lost at times defending it, both Wilson/Kearse had their struggles as well. 20 years ago, teams wouldn't dare run the read option as their QB's would get killed, but these new age QB's are coming into the league bigger/stronger and more athletic.

In the past, you give top DC's a year to figure it out, they will devise a scheme to counter. Will Quinn come up with the answers to defend this attack?
Was just watching a rerun of Chiefs Eagles SB and the Chiefs were doing a decent job but got burned a few times. The times the had success they were pushing up into the backfield attacking with the coverage moving up. Spagnola does a good job with what he has.
 

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I usually like your posts Cowboyny, but this is
CRAZY WRONG. GARBAGE FICTION.

It makes me angry as you are calling out coaches and players when you are dead-wrong. Silly wrong.

-Eagles couldn't run against Cowboys in game one or game two. Philly averaged 3.5 yards a carry in game one and 3.0 yards a carry in game two. Hurts was maybe 4.0 running on us.

-Giants? Looking at the two games combined Daniel Jones was credited 79 yards rushing, but the majority of that came on pass plays that turned into scrambles. Jones -- again in two games combined -- only had 4 non-scramble rushes for 23 yards.

-Bears? Cowboys were way ahead that whole game. They invited Bears to run and burn the clock, which is what Chicago did.

Houston/Driskell...Jeff had 5 true carries for 25 carries. Big Whoop.
We did struggle against mobile QB's throughout the season. Many QB runs helped extend drives. Some of it was from the QB breaking the pocket, where others came from that read option play. There were games they played well against the backs, but still struggled with the QB rushing the football.
 

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It’s not hard to figure out, just commit your “read” defender to tee off on the quarterback. If a team values the health of their quarterback, they’ll stop running it.

Quarterbacks are free game on option plays whether they keep it or not, these should be free shots with your DE putting his facemask in their chest.
That's what they used to do with those running QB's, don't know why teams have stopped using that strategy.
 

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This is of other major issue with our run defense, which I discussed in a prior post. Quinn has started to take him away as a early down edge rusher to fix this.
Good someone else sees this, because it's going to be an issue. Nobody wants him off the field, but he has to be a bit more disciplined!
 

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Read option is tough to stop because you have account for the ‘extra player’, the QB

It is even tougher when you are a playing with 10 potential run defenders (since Diggs is a turnstile)

We will struggle against it
 
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