Raiders fans on Jihad Ward

[Toruk_Makto]

https://raiderforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13173&view=unread#unread

they seem well rid of him....

You should see what fans said about Lawrence after 2 years. And if we'd have traded him many would have said much worse than what is in that thread.

In fact just look at what people are saying about "soft Taco" now. You'd think fans would learn their lessons....

 

[irving]

There is reason NFL teams have professional scouts and don't rely on fans to do that job.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

As people have stated fans are idiots. Fans wanted Lawrence gone. Fans want Dak gone. Fans are idiots and are a poor representation of how good or bad a player is.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

He needs to change his name to YeeHaw

I like the name Erasmus. Or Clive.

 

[Cowpolk]

Does anyone know his current weight? Possible 1 tech?

6'6" 295
PRO DAY RESULTS

40-yard dash: 5.07 seconds
Vertical: 28 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 2 inches
Short shuttle: 4.86 seconds
3-cone drill: 7.3 seconds
Bench: 22 reps of 225 pounds

 

[conner01]

Oh I like the trade. And agree.

If you plan to give Beasley a 3rd contract it’s a good move
If you don’t plan on giving Beasley a 3rd contract it’s not such a great trade
Ward hasn’t been in the league long enough to be a bust. DT is a slow to develope position so there is hope he can contribute

 

[MarcusRock]

How long before Joe Buck says, "wow, Ward really blew up that play"?

 

[GMO415]

All my Raiders friends say he's a disappointment

 

[Cowpolk]

I like the name Erasmus. Or Clive.

Rastus is a cool name As is Dirtball or Slimewad

 

[HowardC]

Rod is the bum whisperer... He may be able to get something out of the young man.

 

[GMO415]

As people have stated fans are idiots. Fans wanted Lawrence gone. Fans want Dak gone. Fans are idiots and are a poor representation of how good or bad a player is.

I don't recall fans saying Manster, Dorrsett, Roger, Lilly, Pearson, Too Tall, Maryland, E Smith, Woodson, Novaceck, Irvin, T Smith, Allen gone.

 

[Kaiser]

Switzer wasn't on the outside looking in Oakland called Jerry and said they wanted Switzer for Ward

Jerry gets calls like that every day. If Switzer wasn't "on the outside looking in" Jerry doesn't make the trade.

 

[TheCount]

I don't get the move for Ward, but he was playing DE in a 3-4, so there's a chance he's a better 4-3 fit.

Even with that said, however, he is a poor athlete that isn't exactly a point of attack guy. I don't think those guys are hard to find.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

mr Corso--- i really knew little about this guy..(Ward)...so i went to nfldraftscoutplayerprofile...and he is both slow and not strong has done little for Raiders...i think he was originally projected 5th round pick but Raiders took him in 2nd round...personally i hate that trade...but i am only a naive fan...if we allow RB's to run up the middle on us this year i will be upset...for me ...it seems cowboys overestimate their players and do not upgrade positions at times and we see inefficiency at certain spots...that may just be my own imagination but that is what comes to mind

Huh? What kind of expectation do you have for 300 lbs athletes.

A guys with 34" arms putting up 20 press is not weak. His agility and jumps are good for a man that size. His 40 time is completely meaningless.

And I find it interesting that you claim that he is a 5th round guys when the NFLDS page has him listed as the 94th overall. That is top 100.

Now if you want to say that the Raiders reached then fine but that is immaterial considering we gave up a pick from the 100s. FWIW, NFLDS has Switzer 180 overall. That actually is a day 3 pick.

Frankly you read like you are trying to not like the trade.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

If he had played like a stud in the NFL thus far, Cowboys wouldn't have been able to get him for Switzer. So it's not surprising Raider fans don't have a high opinion of Jihad.

To be honest, until last year, we could have said the same about DLaw....for some players, it just takes time. The fact the FO coaching staff KNOW this kid is huge.

 

[Kolemmitt]

6'6" 295
PRO DAY RESULTS

40-yard dash: 5.07 seconds
Vertical: 28 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 2 inches
Short shuttle: 4.86 seconds
3-cone drill: 7.3 seconds
Bench: 22 reps of 225 pounds

Isnt that 2 years ago?

 

[charron]

I wonder if the raiders wanted switzer over beasley? Could have more to do with switz being cheap the next few years.

 

[Cowpolk]

Isnt that 2 years ago?

yes but still about the same

 

[GORICO]

After watching some of that Amazon show... Dez was walking himself out the door. He just didn't realize it.
Honestly, I'm hopeful about Dak being able to spread the ball around with a bunch of route running hand catchers and it makes the offense less predictable, while not making it necessarily more complicated.

Remember: 2016 was a lot about the Dallas offense being something that DC's couldn't figure out because it wasn't what they've seen year after year.
Maybe the same might happen this coming season.

I'm looking forward to what they're going to do, but... Dak has to deliver. And it will be difficult with all new targets and getting timing down, with newer plays and gameplan adjustments from the last 2 years, but we'll just have to see and watch for progression, instead of watching one game and proclaiming absolutes, as we are wont to do.

mr Corso--- You might have seen some of my posts being critical about Dak's mechanics and field recognition....I hope i just got overly focused on how Dak responded after the Atlanta game when in fact his deterioration is not due to inablility as maybe being traumatized?...i dont know if you ever watch game film presentation from Akoye media but he did a breakdown of Dak in 2017 and it was not good..in fact it left me feeling concerned that Dak may never be a successful and consistent down field passer from the pocket?....but as time has passed i feel i probably allowed my criticism to become extreme about Dak as a passer...and i at least need to see what he can do in year three under better circumstances before making a judgment...also i do have personal concerns about myself allowing a game and a sports team to influence me as much as it does..i mean its only a game...get a life GORICO

 

[GORICO]

I wonder if the raiders wanted switzer over beasley? Could have more to do with switz being cheap the next few years.

charron---personally i did not like that trade..but i am only a fan who sees just part of the picture