Ramsey, Elliot, Tunsil, Bosa

[fishspill]

Well, we have to draft someone. But according to this board there's nothing we can do.

Ramsey isn't a CB
Apparently, it's stupid to draft a RB high, so Zeke is out.
Bosa is good, not great
Tunsil is overkill

Am I missing anything?

Nah, you did a good job with it. Nothing to do at this point but wait for the leaks of who goes 1st which will tell us who goes 2nd. I figure we'll know 1st and 2nd some time Wednesday. Maybe early Thursday 3rd does something or the word on them gets out. Then we can all really argue leading up to #4.

 

[silver]

Well, we have to draft someone. But according to this board there's nothing we can do.

Ramsey isn't a CB
Apparently, it's stupid to draft a RB high, so Zeke is out.
Bosa is good, not great
Tunsil is overkill

Am I missing anything?

This is why teams write up a draft board and stick to it. There are too many what if's if you sit and overanalyze all the prospects.

 

[Cowboys20]

I would be totally livid if the Cowboys waste their #4 pick on a DB who most likely will not get playing time because of a crowded secondary.

The game is won on the line of scrimmage. That's where the pressure is placed on opposing QB's to rush reads which results in a improved secondary.

Denver was able to beat Carolina this year in the Super Bowl because of the defensive rush attack.

The Cowboys must improve their weak rushing defensive attack by picking the best defensive lineman on the board. If it's Joey Bosa, so be it.

It just makes so much sense.

If the Cowboys pick Ramsey at #4, the stupidity continues.

 

[Swanny]

Top flight secondary, dominant running game, Hall of fame offensive line, or average defensive line. I think thats what these guys can bring us. What do you want? I am not talking about the players individual talent. What do these guys bring to the individual units of the Cowboys.

I actually love all 4 options we can't lose on any of these 4 choices. But I prefer Ramsey and Tunsil

 

[ringmaster]

I would be totally livid if the Cowboys waste their #4 pick on a DB who most likely will not get playing time because of a crowded secondary.

The game is won on the line of scrimmage. That's where the pressure is placed on opposing QB's to rush reads which results in a improved secondary.

Denver was able to beat Carolina this year in the Super Bowl because of the defensive rush attack.

The Cowboys must improve their weak pass defense by picking the best defensive lineman on the board. If it's Joey Bosa, so be it.

It just makes so much sense.

If the Cowboys pick Ramsey at #4, the stupidity continues.

Well be prepared to be livid then because either Ramsey, or Elliott will be their selection at 4. As for Bosa, there is a faint possibility he may get drafted like you're not a fan of Ramsey and I'm not a fan of Bosa, even if he is the pick I'm not going to go crazy over it.

 

[Cowboys20]

Well be prepared to be livid then because either Ramsey, or Elliott will be their selection at 4. As for Bosa, there is a faint possibility he may get drafted like you're not a fan of Ramsey and I'm not a fan of Bosa, even if he is the pick I'm not going to go crazy over it.

I'm still beating this drum. I really hope the Cowboys have thought this through. They have had enough time but we all know JJ is very impulsive.

 

[Echo9]

I've heard so much "Bosa is really good not great" that maybe many are wrong on him and he'll be a 15 sack guy.

Here's a genuine question. Now I've heard that Bosa is good/not great quite a bit. My question is whether JJ Watt was put in the same class at draft time. To be clear, I'm not insinuating that I think Bosa is as good as JJ Watt. But I think experts are still expecting Bosa to go top 6 or so, while Watt went where he was expected at 11. I don't remember the hype being off the wall for Watt, but I do remember that he was a viable option for us at 9.

So to sum up: If Watt was projected at top 10, but Bosa is projected as top 5. Why is Bosa getting such flack? Is the DL draft just so weak?

 

[Echo9]

I'm still beating this drum. I really hope the Cowboys have thought this through. They have had enough time but we all know JJ is very impulsive.

For the record , I really hope that Tunsil is still there at 4 and we trade back 3 or 4 spots. We can get a high pick for that move this year.

 

[Hardline]

Ramsey turns our secondary from trash to treasure?

I'm not buying that

A pass rush turns the secondary into treasure.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Ramsey makes the secondary top flight with Benson Mayowa and David Irving as your starting DE's? Good luck with that. He better be able to cover for six seconds.

 

[DogFace]

Ramsey makes the secondary top flight with Benson Mayowa and David Irving as your starting DE's? Good luck with that. He better be able to cover for six seconds.

Irving will surprise you and others.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Top flight secondary, dominant running game, Hall of fame offensive line, or average defensive line. I think thats what these guys can bring us. What do you want? I am not talking about the players individual talent. What do these guys bring to the individual units of the Cowboys.

No where near a top flight secondary if we have no pass rush.

 

[DogFace]

Here's a genuine question. Now I've heard that Bosa is good/not great quite a bit. My question is whether JJ Watt was put in the same class at draft time. To be clear, I'm not insinuating that I think Bosa is as good as JJ Watt. But I think experts are still expecting Bosa to go top 6 or so, while Watt went where he was expected at 11. I don't remember the hype being off the wall for Watt, but I do remember that he was a viable option for us at 9.

So to sum up: If Watt was projected at top 10, but Bosa is projected as top 5. Why is Bosa getting such flack? Is the DL draft just so weak?

Very good question. That's exactly what I was thinking and wondering. They have some of the same characteristics. They're obvouisly both white and I feel that is a factor in some evaluations.

 

[Macnalty]

No where near a top flight secondary if we have no pass rush.

Which pick will fix this pass rush and leave us pleased to visit this issue again in another four years when their contract is expiring? This pass rush is not fixed this year. Rookies impact on pass rush are usually minimal at best. See Aaron Donald, JJ Watts and our own Demarcus Ware. Second year can be a crapshoot so better pass the popcorn and enjoy the ride with this defense and hope like heck our offense keeps opposing defenses coughing up lungs in the fourth quarter.

 

[boysfanindc]

Brandon George: They need to come out of the first three rounds of the draft with a defensive end, a defensive back and a quarterback. You take Elliott at four, you really throw a wrench into things where you're gonna back yourself into a corner possibly. If they take a running back and possibly lose a chance at a top defensive end or top defensive back. And you get to the second round and then there's a run on quarterbacks in the first round, what do you do. So you may have to take a quarterback at that point. Then you're two rounds into the draft and you haven't taken a defensive back or a defensive end, which are probably the two biggest areas of need on this team. If you take Elliott early on, I think it creates a domino effect for later in the draft that could really get the Cowboys in trouble.

 

[Spectre]

Trade down. Get Treadwell. Championship.

 

[Cowboys20]

Rookies impact on pass rush are usually minimal at best. .

Using your logic, a defensive end should never be drafted because they take time to develop.

Pick now and start developing the player. If it takes time for a DE to flourish, so be it. You said it yourself.

Case in point:
Carolina has a mobile QB and a great defense who are the reining NFC Champions. The Cowboys will eventually have to go through Carolina or Greenbay.

The Cowboys must invest in the D-Line and use the high pick now.

You simply can not out score every team every Sunday.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Add Buckner...

I think San Diego is taking Buckner..

 

[The Quest for Six]

Top flight secondary, dominant running game, Hall of fame offensive line, or average defensive line. I think thats what these guys can bring us. What do you want? I am not talking about the players individual talent. What do these guys bring to the individual units of the Cowboys.

If Ramsey is there at 4, Dallas will run the card in....I like Buckner too but I think San Diego takes him at 3

 

[boysfanindc]

If Ramsey is there at 4, Dallas will run the card in....I like Buckner too but I think San Diego takes him at 3

Looks like the Stanley to Chargers buzz is picking up, they have to go tackle don't they?:

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/apr/26/laremy-tunsil-chargers-mayock-jalen-notre-dame/