Randle an afterthought in righting the ship

[Idgit]

Except weedon was benched by the coaches. And, no way that was a conclusion from 1 game against the pats vs 2 games with a 108.8 rating. . If so, that is as knee jerk as fans appear to be.

Well, he's vilified in part because he's benched. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been benched. Only that, when he's an unliked player to begin with, and he gets benched, it's Brandon-Weeden's-day-in-the-barrel on Dallas Cowboys message boards. But once public enemy number one goes down, we need to lineup a new villain. That's looking like Randle right now.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Randle is being unfairly thrown under the bus in this hurry to blame someone for the problems of the offense. The facts are that we have no passing threat to speak of and our offensive line, to put it nicely, isn't quite playing at the 1993 Superbowl champion level we all expected.

Now Randle isn't all-world by any means, but asking for success behind those circumstances is a tall order for any running back.

I dont blame Randle at all. I think he gives 100% He will eventaully mature.....He is still young;

But he is what he is. A great backup RB to give the main guy a break.... every now and then. Thats all he Can be.....

I blame whoever made the decision to go with him and DMC.

 

[TheDude]

I know what you're saying and in general it's true.

Hiwever, Weedon was an obvious turd in 2014 and even more so in the preseason. There was zero reason to ever expect him lead a team to a win.

Ultimately it's not his fault he sucks, that blame lies with the same who thought brad Johnson could throw it past the center in 2008 when he proved in meaningless games he couldnt

 

[LocimusPrime]

Well, he's vilified in part because he's benched. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been benched. Only that, when he's an unliked player to begin with, and he gets benched, it's Brandon-Weeden's-day-in-the-barrel on Dallas Cowboys message boards. But once public enemy number one goes down, we need to lineup a new villain. That's looking like Randle right now.

Without a villain there can be no heroes. Lol. After randle, it will be twill, street, church, Wilcox and mo ( not necessarily in that order)

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Without a villain there can be no heroes. Lol. After randle, it will be twill, street, church, Wilcox and mo ( not necessarily in that order)

until someone starts winning.

thats what this is all about....right? ohh yeah, money. I forgot about the money.

 

[erod]

turn 2 into 5, but we need better OL play.

Word is, the linemen are getting irritated with Randle because he won't run to where plays are designed to go.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

I dont blame Randle at all. I think he gives 100% He will eventaully mature.....He is still young;

But he is what he is. A great backup RB to give the main guy a break.... every now and then. Thats all he Can be.....

I blame whoever made the decision to go with him and DMC.

I don't agree that he can't be a quality starter. It's hard to judge him right now.

Any success he and Murray had last year was behind an all-world line coached by a different guy, with a different guy under center and a different guy as #1 wide receiver. Those are a lot of changes to have ask a RB to still be successful through.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Word is, the linemen are getting irritated with Randle because he won't run to where plays are designed to go.

if thats the case, shouldnt the coaches know that already?

 

[JoeBoBBY]

I don't agree that he can't be a quality starter. It's hard to judge him right now.

Any success he and Murray had last year was behind an all-world line coached by a different guy, with a different guy under center and a different guy as #1 wide receiver. Those are a lot of changes to have ask a RB to still be successful through.

fair enough. But Randle is easily replaceable..... I dont think he is lead dog material, on any team......... But he is a great backup. Worthy of a roster spot and a 3-5 targets a game.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

fair enough. But Randle is easily replaceable..... I dont think he is lead dog material, on any team......... But he is a great backup. Worthy of a roster spot and a 3-5 targets a game.

I agree he's replaceable, although I would argue most RB's are. He's certainly not a game-changing runner, like an Adrian Peterson, but there are so few of those in the league anyway. He's a guy who is good enough when you have the right pieces in place around him, which we thought we had coming into the year.

 

[Corso]

Why has Michael suddenly turned into some mythical beast?

He was unceremoniously dumped for an undrafted backup behind Lynch on a team that has/had visions of a super bowl run.

I hope he is everything this board wants him to be....but the anointing oil is a bit premature.

Besides Randle may be a knucklehead (so is C mike) but he has run hard and well this year in an offense that has not been kind to the running game due to player personnel.

CMike will be a Unicorn to this board til he shows himself to be the donkey he just may be.
Until then he is Battle Cat. Rower!

My point and the answer to your question?
The unknown will always be more enticing than the known.

House cats will always look like Battle Cats.
Maybe they are Battle Cats... that's what the board wants to see.

 

[Verdict]

Why has Michael suddenly turned into some mythical beast?

He was unceremoniously dumped for an undrafted backup behind Lynch on a team that has/had visions of a super bowl run.

I hope he is everything this board wants him to be....but the anointing oil is a bit premature.

Besides Randle may be a knucklehead (so is C mike) but he has run hard and well this year in an offense that has not been kind to the running game due to player personnel.

Actually Randle has not "run well". That is the main reason why Randle is in the dog house. He has baggage, but his baggage is not tolerable because it is not outweighed by his performance on the field. Hardy appears to be a pain in the *** and potential trouble, but right now his performance is outweighing any current baggage that he carries with him.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Actually Randle has not "run well". That is the main reason why Randle is in the dog house. He has baggage, but his baggage is not tolerable because it is not outweighed by his performance on the field. Hardy appears to be a pain in the *** and potential trouble, but right now his performance is outweighing any current baggage that he carries with him.

You just looking at the numbers eh?

 

[Verdict]

I was against letting Murray go, but I realize that it was a salary cap decision (for the most part), and I can live with that. I was really worried about us going with the running backs we had on the team, but hoped that McFadden could help us out some.

Without having the benefit of hindsight, I understand why the Cowboys felt like they could get by with what they had at running back. I think the coaches hoped that Randle and McFadden could be serviceable since they planned to use Dunbar a lot more this year. They actually used Dunbar, and to the coaches' credit, he was actually getting results. The problem with a small player, like Dunbar, is that they tend to get injured a little bit more frequently, and can't really be used with frequency as a between the tackles runner.

I think the Cowboys weren't happy with what they had on the roster, which is why they traded a draft pick to get Michael. I think if Dunbar had not suffered an injury, there would have been two possible outcomes, which are:

1. If Michael is capable, then he and Dunbar would split a majority of the carries, or
2. We would have eventually ridden Dunbar as hard as we needed to in order to get wins, much like we did DeMarco Murray last year.

If Romo had not been injured, we could have been more judicious with Dunbar than without him.

 

[Verdict]

You just looking at the numbers eh?

Well, actually, I have just been watching Randle suck. Of course that is just my opinion, and reasonable minds may differ on the subject.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I was against letting Murray go, but I realize that it was a salary cap decision (for the most part), and I can live with that. I was really worried about us going with the running backs we had on the team, but hoped that McFadden could help us out some.

Without having the benefit of hindsight, I understand why the Cowboys felt like they could get by with what they had at running back. I think the coaches hoped that Randle and McFadden could be serviceable since they planned to use Dunbar a lot more this year. They actually used Dunbar, and to the coaches' credit, he was actually getting results. The problem with a small player, like Dunbar, is that they tend to get injured a little bit more frequently, and can't really be used with frequency as a between the tackles runner.

I think the Cowboys weren't happy with what they had on the roster, which is why they traded a draft pick to get Michael. I think if Dunbar had not suffered an injury, there would have been two possible outcomes, which are:

1. If Michael is capable, then he and Dunbar would split a majority of the carries, or
2. We would have eventually ridden Dunbar as hard as we needed to in order to get wins, much like we did DeMarco Murray last year.

If Romo had not been injured, we could have been more judicious with Dunbar than without him.

I never understood it because Randle has never proven he could carry the load. If they had faith in him then why didn't he spell Murray a lot last year? I understand Murry didn't want to come out but if there was no difference between the two then it would have helped the team. I think they knew he was nothing more than a backup and were hoping he would step up this year. He hasn't impressed me very much. He is what I thought he was. And McFadden is an even bigger mystery. The guy hasn't shown anything in 7 years and all of a sudden he's going to become great because he runs behind our OL. Dunbar was the big surprise because during the preseason, many wanted him to get cut. We had no idea what he could do because he was mainly invisible the last few years.

 

[Myboys]

It's what message boards do when a team is not winning. First it's the QB, so he's vilified and an attempt is made to make it seem that that was the source of all the problems. Then we need a guy in the batters' box to start preparing in case it's not the QB, after all. Joseph Randle, step up and meet your Dallas Cowboys football fans.

When we're done with him, we'll switch to blaming the coaches and Jerry in earnest. Sure, we're doing a little bit of that this week, but we'll really kick it in gear if we lose to the Giants.

Meanwhile, the entire issue has just been too many really good players not in the lineup so our backups can't beat the other guys' starters.

Lol......You nailed it! I can't seem to stop myself from doing just what you stated above. I know better but when the Cowboys lose I get all bent out of shape and start looking for someone to blame it on.

 

[Idgit]

Lol......You nailed it! I can't seem to stop myself from doing just what you stated above. I know better but when the Cowboys lose I get all bent out of shape and start looking for someone to blame it on.

Me too. In my head at least.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If you pay close attention to what was SAID by Jerry Jones...and what was DONE by Jason Garrett last year...it is not hard to decipher that Jason was lukewarm on Randle...and it was Jerry....especially from an economic standpoint....that wanted Randle to have this chance.

If "anybody" could run behind this OL...then why wasn't anyone else besides DeMarco given a chance last year?

I always thought it was because they knew Murray wasn't coming back so they ran him into the ground and kept Randle and Dunbar fresh.

 

[Nav22]

Randle was a monster last season when he only got a few carries/game. No way he gets cut even if Michael really is the new #1 RB.