Randy Gregory to Apply for Reinstatement

[phildadon86]

I get that it doesn't happen overnight. I don't expect it to happen overnight. I smoked for 20+ years and know how hard it is to quit something. He was notified November 2016 that he was going to be banned from the league. He went through the appeals process and lost. He returned for the last 2 games of the 2016 season knowing he was going to be banned in January 2017. He knew he would be eligible to apply for reinstatement on 11/6/17. That would give him almost a full year to "be on course to file for reinstatement". That's not overnight.

During that year, it was reported by TMZ he failed another test. This was not denied by Gregory's people or the Cowboys. Jerry said he was "skeptical" of the report.

In October when he was nearing the time he could file for reinstatement, it came out that he wouldn't file. He had the desire to come back. There was a source that said he had a setback which would require counseling or another stint in rehab.

Now, for months they have been claiming Gregory wants to come back and is working to come back and working towards the path of being able to file for reinstatement. If I am to believe he has been clean for 17+ months (since the failed test that got him banished to begin with) then that path should have already been taken. It would concern me MORE if he has been clean this entire time yet still wasn't prepared to file 5.5 months after he could have. It would concern me to the point that instead of wanting him to come back, I would change my mind and want the team to cut ties with him.

He has already wasted the opportunity to participate in the off season program and in another 2 months will put training camp in jeopardy. That's not good for a player that has missed the better part of 2 years, save for a couple of games.

I'm looking at this from a most likely scenario based upon all the articles and limited information and trying to read between the lines that I can because I have followed this situation closely since I've wanted him to return...he most likely didn't take the banishment seriously last year, had a change of heart late last year, has a sincere desire to come back now, and is putting together a string of clean tests and therapy to show Goodell he is clean and deserves to be reinstated. That's most likely causing the delay and that is most likely the path towards reinstatement they are referencing.

Ill say this again. A lot of things get opened up emotionally in rehab. Sometimes, leaving without dealing with those issues is not a good thing. He hasn't failed a test since July of 2016. So that should tell you all you need to know.

 

[Aviano90]

And don't come with ANYTHING other than a report saying the Gregorg report was in fact true.

That's all you would accept is a report showing the TMZ report was fraudulent. So now I'm turning the tables.

Dont reply if you dont have a report confirming the TMZ report.

Once again, I've never claimed it to be a fact. I've never claimed to have proof it was correct. You keep demanding something of me that I've never claimed I have had. If you can show me where I've claimed it to be fact, I'll admit I was wrong.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

We should all be rooting for Randy the man to turn his life around. The football player, well we are allowed to be skeptical.

I hope everything turns out good in his life and he's successful. But the team and the fans cannot count on him. His presence should not alter any draft plans or roster decisions. Anything we get from his is a bonus.

My sentiments exactly. As they say here in Louisiana, if he plays and plays well and stays clean, his contribution is "laginappe", meaning something extra you didn't know you'd get.

Just think if Lawrence gets another 14.5 sacks, Taco becomes a force, Irving stays productive and Collins (DT) continues to improve, and then Gregory becomes what he was supposed to able to become. Might be the best pass rushing team ever...

 

[phildadon86]

Once again, I've never claimed it to be a fact. I've never claimed to have proof it was correct. You keep demanding something of me that I've never claimed I have had. If you can show me where I've claimed it to be fact, I'll admit I was wrong.

No offense man he has responded to you with a report stating that Gregory hasn't failed a test since 2016 and you keep ignoring it and continuing the argument.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Once again, I've never claimed it to be a fact. I've never claimed to have proof it was correct. You keep demanding something of me that I've never claimed I have had. If you can show me where I've claimed it to be fact, I'll admit I was wrong.

Okay, so maybe this is a miscommunication problem.

If you don't claim something as true/fact, then why do you continually revert back to as evidence towards points you try to make?

If that's the case you should have never used that for any sort of backing.

Our initial conversation way back when was when I said "we can safely assume that the TMZ report is fake", you thought the opposite. It has now become pretty obvious that it was fake and now you're reverting back to "I never claimed it was fact so I wasnt wrong". Yes you were in fact wrong by backing the report that was false. Many have taken notice and thats why youre being called out by pthers because youve cited the TMZ reports so often when the topic of gregory arises.

 

[The Fonz]

The reason he is coming back is that he and his camp run out of cash.Cowboys should not count on him he might relapse again.Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

 

[Aviano90]

IVE ANSWERED YOU A MILLION TIMES WITH PROOF THAT IT WAS WRONG IVE LITERALLY LISTED IT OUT FOR YOU MULTIPLE TIMES.

WHEN THE **** HAVE I TUCKED MY TAIL AND RAN?

Lol ****, what you've asked for is a report coming out saying the 2 year old TMZ report was fake, THAT'S NEVER GOING TO COME OUT. So it's a cop out bull****. When Gregory applies to be reinstated it will confirm the report was fictitious despite us already knowing such.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/pft-randy-gregory-ready-to-apply-for-reinstatement.399481/page-16

Here is the last thread we had, when once again, I've clearly explained I have never passed off the TMZ report as fact and that I had not proof it was correct. You did not respond and I responded to another one of your comments, also with no response.

Yes, here you are yet again, accusing me of something I have clearly stated I have never done.

I know we have disagreed often in the past, but at this point, I question if you've actually read anything I have posted. If you have read it then you are intentionally misrepresenting what I have said, or your reading comprehension needs some serious work.

 

[elcowboi]

This is why mental health/addiction in this country is the way it is. Some people just think you throw some dirt on it and everything will be fine. I commend the guy for facing his demons head on and making sure he was in the right frame of mind to play football again. Some fans love to talk about players doing "stupid" things and then when they try to get help the same fans are saying, "Oh, he's taking too long to get right".

 

[Aviano90]

Okay, so maybe this is a miscommunication problem.

If you don't claim something as true/fact, then why do you continually revert back to as evidence towards points you try to make?

If that's the case you should have never used that for any sort of backing.

Our initial conversation way back when was when I said "we can safely assume that the TMZ report is fake", you thought the opposite. It has now become pretty obvious that it was fake and now you're reverting back to "I never claimed it was fact so I wasnt wrong". Yes you were in fact wrong by backing the report that was false.

I'm not using is as "evidence". This entire Gregory situation started when we were relatively new on this board. Someone asked for an update and I simply listed it as things that have been reported over the year. I also included information about Jerry saying it was skeptical about the report.

Of course, as the messenger, I was killed for bringing that up and people claimed as fact it was false. I maintained throughout all these threads that I didn't know if it was true, just that it was reported and they could take it or leave it.

Of course, that leads to the smart *** comments from that point forward.

And if you need to be go back and find the other threads to prove I never passed it off as fact, I can do that too. It's all in my history.

 

[unionjack8]

 

[SportsGuru80]

Good story if he makes it back. I am not counting on it though. I wish him well.

 

[Melonfeud]

So him coming back..

Does that alter our draft with DL?

I want to say "YES" ,,,SO BAD!
but this ' report' is about as substantial as the same one blurted out a month ago

 

[zrinkill]

brah, it's 4/20 today.

That is hilarious...... he had to do that on purpose.

 

[erod]

Does he want to finally play football?

Or is he out of money for good weed?

Both are legitimate questions.

He's got to earn the 53rd spot on the roster. Do not plan for him to be anything, or you'll regret it.

Addicts will virtually always disappoint you in the end.

 

[Aviano90]

No offense man he has responded to you with a report stating that Gregory hasn't failed a test since 2016 and you keep ignoring it and continuing the argument.

Thanks. I'll go back and find it. I've had a lot of "alerts" as me and him were responding to each other on multiple comments.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

He's only failed like 10+ tests, right?

You're not living up to your Signature. Change it.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

The reason he is coming back is that he and his camp run out of cash.Cowboys should not count on him he might relapse again.Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

I don't think they are counting on him, but I'm pretty sure Jerry is wanting him back and successful so he can say "See, I knew he was worth a second round pick, I'm so smart"...

 

[funkytown]

My sentiments exactly. As they say here in Louisiana, if he plays and plays well and stays clean, his contribution is "laginappe", meaning something extra you didn't know you'd get.

Just think if Lawrence gets another 14.5 sacks, Taco becomes a force, Irving stays productive and Collins (DT) continues to improve, and then Gregory becomes what he was supposed to able to become. Might be the best pass rushing team ever...

That would be great if it happens. Not to mention anything we could get from Ealy or Datone Jones. Tyrone Crawford. The dline has potential, just need the results now.

 

[phildadon86]

Does he want to finally play football?

Or is he out of money for good weed?

Both are legitimate questions.

He's got to earn the 53rd spot on the roster. Do not plan for him to be anything, or you'll regret it.

Addicts will virtually always disappoint you in the end.

Wow. Honestly, we have had some good convos, but for this comment alone, I will put you on ignore. I am a recovering addict and there are plenty of success stories. Your comment is not only ignorant, its also disgusting and highly insensitive to anyone on this board who suffered from or knows someone suffering from addiction. Get off your high horse.

 

[Aviano90]

From Fisher- "UPDATE: We're told Randy Gregory camp is ready to present to NFL the fact the #Cowboys DE has passed a large number of drug tests, hasn't failed one since July 2016. https://t.co/Hjgu2CqRtC"

To confirm the TMZ report was completely fictitious.

That is outstanding news. Thank you for sharing. This is the exact type of news I have been asking for during our arguments.

I stand corrected.