Randy Gregory to Apply for Reinstatement

[jazzcat22]

So he gets reinstated and the Cowboys keep him and low and behold say week 3 he has a bad game and his addiction gets the better part of him and then he fails a drug test and gets banned for life. But the Cowboys already wasted a roster spot on him and there are no suitable DE's lying in waiting to be picked up but wait they had one in camp but cut him to keep Gregory but that players was signed after getting cut. Let some other team run the risk that he won't regress back to drugs. It's not like he would be the 1st "former" drug addict that slipped and fell beck into using. When he was first suspended I read an article that said nearly 70% of all addicts at some point start using again at least 1 time after going someplace for treatment.
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Another stupid post stating what will happen 6 months from now. Well, he did use, and he went back to treatment and in rehab. So it has been almost 2 years now he has been clean, so reported my Fisher. So why do people post this kind of crap.

 

[Virginia-Dave]

Look, I'm rooting for the guy. If he can turn it around and become a dominant player, it would be a great story, and lord knows the Cowboys could use some D-line help. That being said, I don't know why everybody is so in love with Gregory. He played in like 12-14 games, and did nothing memorable. One sack and a handful of tackles, so why do we think he'll come back and be the next D-Ware?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

For the "why didnt he just apply the day he turned eligable" crowd

Bobby belt-
And re: @rekeller3's question about Randy Gregory returning: People have to remember if Gregory applies and is denied, he has to wait six months just to apply again. And the league can then take as long as they like on a decision.

The delay on applying was and is on purpose.

 

[BillyBates]

hoping for the best, expecting the least

 

[erod]

When Gordon returned last year, you could see his impact immediately with the Browns.
Expect the same from Gregory. He will contribute.

It took Gordon 7 years and multiple relapses.

 

[Aviano90]

He's probably waiting longer to apply so he can pad the "resume" so to speak.

I think Roger has 60 days to answer the application, so it looks better obviously if it shows more time passing drug tests, etc when Gregory applies.

He's just maximizing his chances of getting reinstated. Actually shows a little smarts by not just applying as soon as possible.

If Gregory gets reinstated and hasn't failed since July 2016, that's pretty huge. I'd expect he'd get reinstated. That's great.

Purely thinking of one scenario, if he's reinstated and manages to play extremely well the last half of the season while acting like an adult, it puts you into an interesting position with Lawrence. Especially if Taco gets better and someone like Tapper steps up his game.

Possibly and it's a well thought out opinion. My problem that I would have with it (from a Gregory standpoint, not your opinion) is that if he has been clean since July 2016, his resume shouldn't need padding. Considering Goodell agreed to reinstate Josh Gordon 3 months after he failed a test during the reinstatement process Gregory would be a shoe in for reinstatement.

However, if he is padding his clean drug record, he is doing it at the expense of not being able to participate in the off season program. Considering he missed almost 2 full years, he needed to be there instead of getting months 20 and 21 of clean testing. I don't think the difference between 19 and 21 months is going to make any difference.

 

[Aviano90]

For the "why didnt he just apply the day he turned eligable" crowd

Bobby belt-
And re: @rekeller3's question about Randy Gregory returning: People have to remember if Gregory applies and is denied, he has to wait six months just to apply again. And the league can then take as long as they like on a decision.

The delay on applying was and is on purpose.

Thanks for sharing, even if you are being a smart *** while doing it.

Now, if I wanted to act like you have the past few months, I would demand that you prove that's the reason Gregory is waiting since you're sharing something that Bobby has said. But, i realized you're just passing along information and Bobby isn't actually stating that's why Gregory is waiting, but could be a reason.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Thanks for sharing, even if you are being a smart *** while doing it.

Now, if I wanted to act like you have the past few months, I would demand that you prove that's the reason Gregory is waiting since you're sharing something that Bobby has said. But, i realized you're just passing along information and Bobby isn't actually stating that's why Gregory is waiting, but could be a reason.

Im gonna back off. I realize I was coming off abrasive, im sorry.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Another stupid post stating what will happen 6 months from now. Well, he did use, and he went back to treatment and in rehab. So it has been almost 2 years now he has been clean, so reported my Fisher. So why do people post this kind of crap.

Oh gee I don't know. Maybe some of us have had family members that lied cheated and stole from family members to pay for their habits even after the family paid for treatment twice and he still started using again. Maybe it's the way he caused so much problems for the family. Maybe it's because I didn't get a job because the employer thought that because I grew up in the same house that maybe I had the same problem. This is a well know and documented type of situation that has occurred countless time all across this country so to say it's a stupid post because I had to live through that type of situation and have real reservations and distrust about Gregory is just stupid on your part.
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[Aviano90]

Im gonna back off. I realize I was coming off abrasive, im sorry.

No worries man. I know I can be an ***, too. My apologies as well.

 

[jazzcat22]

It took Gordon 7 years and multiple relapses.

Wrong.
Gordon played 2012 through 2014, missed 2015 and 2016, returned in 2017.
Yes relapses, but not as what you are trying to make it out to be.

Maybe Gregory does, maybe he doesn't. But is has been almost 2 years now, so what will change to make him relapse, 1 bad game, BS. It would be most likely if a family issue causes it, if it does. He has a huge family reason to stay clean now, and that is a powerful motivator, or can be.

 

[jazzcat22]

Oh gee I don't know. Maybe some of us have had family members that lied cheated and stole from family members to pay for their habits even after the family paid for treatment twice and he still started using again. Maybe it's the way he caused so much problems for the family. Maybe it's because I didn't get a job because the employer thought that because I grew up in the same house that maybe I had the same problem. This is a well know and documented type of situation that has occurred countless time all across this country so to say it's a stupid post because I had to live through that type of situation and have real reservations and distrust about Gregory is just stupid on your part.
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so your personal issues are projected to anyone with "pot" issues?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Seems like it is for realz gonna happen. Wouldn't it be great if he turned his life around......

I hope he is able to get his life turned around, and that his reinstatement is approved. It'd be great, and America loves a comeback.

 

[Fontaine]

I really hope it works out for him. Seems like he’s finally on the right track.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Damn we need new emoticons!! I'm tellin yah, I'll design all the ones necessary for Greggsie. Start with a big fatty, progress to long glass type apparatus, a pizza or three, a case of Mountain Dew and an unsigned application form... am I right, am I right booo yaaaa

That we do, and, I'd love one that is just sunglasses.

 

[Mind_Liberator]

What I read into the article is he is finally doing in 2018 what he should have been doing in 2017. This stuff should have already been buttoned up

And *** are you to judge? Sounds like you are inferring that you are perfect or something? What are your flaws and did you have them all conquered by your early twenties?

I mean, especially with the talk of him dealing with depression and whatnot. How can you not be happy that he seems to have gotten over the hump, even though it took him a whole 300 days longer than you wished?

 

[Aviano90]

And *** are you to judge? Sounds like you are inferring that you are perfect or something? What are your flaws and did you have them all conquered by your early twenties?

I mean, especially with the talk of him dealing with depression and whatnot. How can you not be happy that he seems to have gotten over the hump, even though it took him a whole 300 days longer than you wished?

Well, I am happy for him. I've been wanting him to come back and I guess I was being selfish. Maybe he should take another year just to be sure and forget this season, too. Maybe instead of encouraging him to come back sooner, we should encourage him to come back later.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Well, I am happy for him. I've been wanting him to come back and I guess I was being selfish. Maybe he should take another year just to be sure and forget this season, too. Maybe instead of encouraging him to come back sooner, we should encourage him to come back later.

I actually want him to come back this year if possible and have the season of a lifetime. It'd be one heck of a story. A guy that was not expected to see the field again turns out to be the hero on a defense that needs pass rush. What could be a better story than that? It'd be great!

 

[gjkoeppen]

so your personal issues are projected to anyone with "pot" issues?

I didn't say that but when treatment centers and researchers have done study after study after study that says a very large percentage of users do use again after treatment and after having my personal experiences in my family it is not stupid to have concerns and distrust for Gregory and to say so. If you want to believe that users seldom start using again after treatment and Gregory will never use again fine, but don't say it's stupid for others that don't think that way and see adverse scenarios that could happen because of that belief.
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[RustyBourneHorse]

I didn't say that but when treatment centers and researchers have done study after study after study that says a very large percentage of users do use again after treatment and after having my personal experiences in my family it is not stupid to have concerns and distrust for Gregory and to say so. If you want to believe that users seldom start using again after treatment and Gregory will never use again fine, but don't say it's stupid for others that don't don't think that way and see adverse scenarios that could happen because of that belief.
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Personally, I just wish that the NFL would take pot off the testing list. There are states legalizing it, and, while I've never used it, I am of the opinion that it's far better than narcotics and other pain meds that the players take after playing.