Rate our 2010 Draft.

[masomenos]

Answer to 1st bolded point: Haha, was talking with DaBoyz there on his response to my response of your statement. Questioned if he was being sarcastic

Answer to 2nd bolded point: I agree. But its tougher to have to locate, then catch a faster, more deceitful, better placed ball from a better informed QB than not.

Answer to 3rd bolded point: No, it wouldn't be. But the odds of a QB from a smaller schools overall level of reading defenses, accuracy, throwing power, deceiving defenses and decision making are far less common than those of the QB's in the ranks of where Berry and Thomas had to play.

So those are the types of balls that had to be located in the backfield and then have a play made on.

See, I think the disconnect we're having is based on the definition of ball skills. It seems like your tying ball skills and recognition/being in position into an inclusive package. The grades that ESPN gave are independent, the ball skills is just defined as when the player is around the ball and there's a separate grade for instincts, which includes a players ability to read the QB and be in the right positions. There's no doubt that Thomas and Berry are more ready to face NFL defenses because they are more likely to be in the right spot on any given play. Thomas had a score of 1 for instincts, Berry a score of 2 and AOA a score of 3.

Oh and I know you weren't being sarcastic, I'm not sure if Daboyz was being serious or not either lol.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Maybe so, maybe this is sarcasm. But AOA does not have better ball skills than Berry or Thomas. Like the AOA pick where we got him, but that guy was defending passes in the jungle gym at Woody Woodchuck's.

Like his upside but those 2 guys have polished ball skills that are proven. Give me a break. Enjoy the pick but don't over embellish.

No sarcasm. maso knows his draft stuff.

The question is why is it so hard to believe that a guy who played corner has better ball skills than a safety ?

 

[jobberone]

The first two picks give it a B. I would go higher but I need to see 3 years before giving out superlatives. The top three picks are very solid.

BTW, Carpenter is going no where this year.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

The first two picks give it a B. I would go higher but I need to see 3 years before giving out superlatives. The top three picks are very solid.

BTW, Carpenter is going no where this year.

why not? What role does he serve ?

 

[fanfromvirginia]

why not? What role does he serve ?

Well, he's not *that* expensive and he *may* be good enough to be the last LB on the roster. I would love to see him replaced and I am desperately hoping that Lee (or one of the other 'redshirts') will at least replace him as the nickle LB but I could see him making the roster in the end. Just because 90% of the people in here want him gone, doesn't make it so. Call it the Procter Factor ;-)

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Well, he's not *that* expensive and he *may* be good enough to be the last LB on the roster. I would love to see him replaced and I am desperately hoping that Lee (or one of the other 'redshirts') will at least replace him as the nickle LB but I could see him making the roster in the end. Just because 90% of the people in here want him gone, doesn't make it so. Call it the Procter Factor ;-)

Carp should be cut.

 

[big dog cowboy]

BTW, Carpenter is going no where this year.

why not? What role does he serve ?

Wade is bringing the training camp waterboy act BP brought here. The worst first rounder on the roster is the new waterboy.

 

[zrinkill]

Overall, I think we got good value with no reaches with our first 4 picks.

Grade: B

******* Jerry strikes again.

Just one more example of JJ's compete ignorance as a GM.

:laugh2:

 

[gmoney112]

A.

We brought in impact, football guys. We just got much better and younger. I'm a little worried about OL, but there's still FA and I think ol' JJ has a heads up on who might be worth pursuing.

 

[Chuck 54]

A-

I think the Wall pick is the pick for safety. AOA/Wall give us two chances for a FS...Wall is a solid cover guy, not fantastic, but very physical and good tackler.

If things work out perfectly, AOA will be the quality starting corner that his ability and college career say he can be...he'd be a perfect replacement as a starter for Newman when necessary. Wall would turn out to be the FS or at least depth if Ball makes it big.