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Reactionary phase over. this pick makes a lot of sense

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by erod, Apr 29, 2022.

  1. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Devil's Advocate

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    I hope Smith and all of our draft picks play well, but I think there were better players available and we could have gotten him in the second round.
  2. fivetwos

    fivetwos Well-Known Member

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    Wonder if Jerry makes him wear #54 so he can peddle off those extra jerseys at full price.....the ones Jaylon already paid for that is.
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  3. Flamma

    Flamma Well-Known Member

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    I agree it's a good pick. A good pick to maintain the status quo. Nothing in this offseason leads me to believe the goal is a championship. This pick confirms that. Even though it's a good pick.
  4. bayeslife

    bayeslife 187beatdown

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    The pro ready size and weight is a very good point. His technique will get him trouble but he won’t be walked back into the QB like Connor Williams
  5. RonnieT24

    RonnieT24 Well-Known Member

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    I strongly agree. Having him in tighter quarters at guard means far less reaching and IMHO far less holding. I think he has the power to maul and that's what we're getting and more importantly it's what we need. If he develops into a tackle level athlete then move him to tackle when Tyron retires..
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  6. Creeper

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    I agree with some of this but there is no guarantee he learns technique right away or ever. His problem is he get his arms up late and outside allowing DEs to get inside where they win the leverage battle. Smith then resorts to grabbing and throwing. In the NFL he will get penalized on every play he does that. My question is, if he did not learn from playing in college why do we think he will get it right away in the pros.

    If he is not ready by September, who is playing LG? McGovern most likely. Who knows, maybe he learned from his first real experience last year.

    On the plus side, Smith keeps his legs moving into his blocks which make him very effecting in the running game. He is naturally strong, as you say so he does have some skills. But what if in his first game he gets flagged for holding 3 times? Then what?
  7. fivetwos

    fivetwos Well-Known Member

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    I DO like the possible upside as an LT, and he has time on that.

    Also his good plays are pretty impressive.

    Things I wonder....

    He sounds coachable, but if he is playing with poor technique, will he still be the same guy once he no longer has the crutch, and has to think and play at the same time?

    Also is Philbin the guy to learn from? He is very tied to MM and Smith may very well have two OL coaches in his first two years.

    For a team that needed immediate help, I'm not sure that was answered with this pick.
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  8. maryquality

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    I'm definitely rooting for this guy!! I hope he becomes a great lineman. My biggest concern since last season, is our o-line coach. I'm not impressed with him. Will he be able to coach T. Smith up enough to make him a good/great lineman? That is the million dollar question.
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  9. Machete

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    My biggest concern about this pick is not the player...but the OLine coach. Don't trust Philbin to coach him up and clear the footwork and hand issues to avoid all those costly penalties.
  10. Adreme

    Adreme Well-Known Member

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    Of course it makes sense. The team lost a lot of penalties when Williams left and now they have a player who can fill that void.
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  11. ShortRound

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    I’m just happy it was OL and not a WR.
  12. America's Cowboy

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    Correct. This FO absolutely stinks at using comparisons and making the better and wiser picks in each round. It's their way or the highway, and over the years, their way has stunk.
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  13. bayeslife

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    They will have an easier time finding a WR in later rounds than finding an OL that can move people like Smith.
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  14. RonnieT24

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    You guys both touch on my main fear as well. Philbin gets credit for Steele taking a huge step forward but pretty much everybody else regressed on his watch. Knight, McGovern, Williams, and Collins all played below replacement level IMHO and even Tyron and Zack have not played up to their usual all world level under him. And the biggest change in Steele was just his ridiculous dedication to the offseason program reworking his body. I don't think Philbin gets much credit for that. Then there is the specter of Moore not wanting to maul people running the ball in the first place. The coaching issues definite worry me more than the player here.
  15. kskboys

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    Really, this simply comes down to whether we can fix what ails him. If the holding continues, terrible pick. If he can be fixed, great pick.

    I do like that he is a big powerful mauler whose strength is NFL ready.
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  16. beware_d-ware

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    Tyler Smith's hand technique is about as rough as you'll find for a 1st round pick. He has only played offensive line for 2 seasons in high school and 2 seasons in college, and it shows.

    The hope is that Philbin can give him the teaching he's never really got to date, but my worry is that Fletcher Cox and Jon Allen are going to smoke him well before he learns and kill his confidence.
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  17. fivetwos

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    Of course we are all rooting for the guy (aside from the probable few that would rather be right).

    If you want to focus on his upside there's a lot to like.

    I wouldn't call it the safest pick though, and interior OL in round one ought to be more of a sure thing, especially when there's a gaping hole in the starting lineup.

    But....the safe dudes were gone. That what happens when you win 12 games lol.
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  18. Prime21

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    The pick does make sense. Smith is a road grader with a mean streak. Getting our offenses physical identity back is priority one. Plugging this guy in at LG helps with that. He also has the body and athleticism to move to LT when Tyron retires.

    His mean streak and tenacity remind me of Trent Williams. The penalties are concerning but he is young and smart and I believe in his ability to improve. I think playing inside early in his career will help.
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  19. G2

    G2 Taco Engineer

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    Linderbaum is undersized and not much different than what we have. Johnson has some weaknesses as well.
  20. BobSacamano

    BobSacamano Well-Known Member

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    Dallas didn’t address DE and LB properly in free agency either. Those two positions had good players available at 24 as well. Would you consider those selections as drafting for need?
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