Reading Tea Leaves - Parcells Speaks Of QBs

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There has been a heated discussion on quarterbacks of late, with this place looking similar to the Quincy/Hutch wars over the back-ups, of all things.

People seem to divide their loyalty when this topic comes around. It isn't what is best for the team, but who you prefer, and how you can crow later about your pony in this race crossing the finish line first.

However, Parcells said some things today in the press conference which is both cryptic and telling at the same time. He spoke about the quarterbacks, and his comments do suggest what he thinks.

When asked about Henson, and specifically if he was done, Bill said:


No, why would it be? He’s a young, developing player. He’s just not ready.


Again he was quizzed later in the press conference about Romo and Henson.


You said Henson isn’t ready, is Romo ready?

Don’t want to go much further on that. Obivously, he has more experience. I’ll just leave it at that. He’s just more up on the system. More functional.

So experience is the key to this battle. Obviously Romo, at this point-in-time has the experience over Henson.

Which is why he is the number two quarterback on this team.

But Bill says more functional. Which states emphatically that Romo can function in this offense with a higher success rate than Henson. But the "developing" comment does have a bearing on this.

Bill makes further comments which are very telling.

Speaking about Bledsoe, he discusses their previous relationship when they were both with New England.


Last time around with New England it was a 4 year development period for a young, immature, inexperienced QB who was forced onto a bad team. Fortunately, by the end of his 1st year he won 4 or 5 games in the row, including the final game of the season in overtime with a dramatic TD pass. The 2nd year we got in the playoffs with him. A couple of years later was the Superbowl. But even in that Superbowl year, he was very much a work in progress. In that game he made some critical errors. That was many years ago, and now he has a wealth of experience. He’s much more mature and understanding,

Now factor in what Parcells said about Henson when asked if he had taken a step backwards.

No, I don’t see how he could take a step back. Its just .. a compartive thing, one guy is in one place, and another guy is at another place.

It is clear that Parcells is being very patient with Henson. He has been away from the game for a long while, and it will take some time for him to get acclimated with the speed and decision-making neccessary to move up the depth chart.

But what is unspoken here is what Bill eluded to the other day when he spoke about Ron Wolfe. He stated that Wolfe taught him that you cut your loses. Don't sit around waiting for a player to show you something when what he is showing you is nothing at all.

Cut the guy and move on.

I have seen a lot of comments on this board by the impatient which are ready to cut Henson. I am not sure if this is a comment borne of wanting any competition for Romo to be jettisoned from the team, or just absolute stupidity.

Both the cap ramifacations and the fact that there will be a number of teams ready to sign Henson if he were cut states in three inch letters that this will not happen.

But more importantly Bill said something else in the press conference which was very significant.

He was asked about the quarterback ratings and his reply shoots huge holes in the prevalent theories that abound on boards like these.

QB rating in itself is a very false statistic. It should be a really called a passer rating, not a QB rating, because there are other things involved that are not taken into account. Especially decisions that a QB makes that would be unknown to the layman … it would just be impossible to know… but just trouble that he gets out of or recognizing certain things that makes a play better than it could have been.

To sum up, what he seems to be saying is this.

Don't believe the stats put out on NFL.com on quarterback ratings. You and I and everyone else that is not involved with this team are just voyeurs and nothing more. Each play has a results which would be hidden from anyone that is not on the team using THEIR grading system.

Henson is a work in progress. He is behind Romo because of experience.

His comments about Bledsoe suggest experience will win the day with any of these guys.

But, and this is the crux of the argument.

Obviously Henson has something, or the team would figure a way to move him along. It might be by trade,or outright cut.

Quoting Parcells again:

Player 52 and 53 should be young, developing prospects who have a good upside but might be a year away from being something. I don’t think just focus on San Diego when making the roster, I want to get the right guys on the team, period.

Does anyone here truly think Henson is the 52nd or 53rd player on this roster?

There must be something there or Parcells wouldn't waste his time with this player. And the notion that this something isn't significant doesn't take into consideration that they don't want someone to just carry a clipboard. Parcells is not the type of coach to waste a spot on the team if the player doesn't have potential.

Quantifiable potential.

The demise of young Mr. Henson has been premature at best.

The suggestion that Romo is the future may be also.

There is nothing written in stone as yet other than this season Romo will be #2.

At this time. That could change.
 

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Very nice well thought out post TD3....thanks for the good read :star:
 

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nice post,

But lets start henson now, have a 2-14 season and get a good draft pick next year









sorry, i couldnt resist. really, good post though.
 

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Too bad it will get turned into a 10 page flamer by those who cannot read anything positive about Henson, just like Rack's thoughtful thread yesterday.;)

Great post Two Deep:bravo:
 

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Excellent post.

One question I have about Henson's development would be why it was took until his second season for VR to correct a fault in his mechanics?
 

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Yeah, somebody please explain to Dale Hansen the difference between 'not being ready' and being "done".

It's usually about a ten year difference.
 

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Now thats a post. Good read TD. Thanks my friend!
 

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Excellent post and well thought out. Very good read. :cool:
 

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Just wondering what ya'lls forecast was for Henson. As I see it, He aint got it figured out yet, he never will. How old is he again? He sat in MLB for 3 years, houston 1 and now his 2-3rd year with us. Thats 6-7 years there. Plus the 2 for him to finish developing so your looking at spending almost a decade on develping a QB???? Landry must be turning over in his grave.

Go out and draft a damn QB and give him 2 years. then at age 35 when he retires you will have gotten 10-12 good years out of him, not 3-5.
 

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Note to InmanRoshi: It looks like you need to start typing bigger between the lines, since that's where everyone is reading, anyway.
 

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LaTunaNostra said:
Yeah, somebody please explain to Dale Hansen the difference between 'not being ready' and being "done".

It's usually about a ten year difference.

Why would you change something you haven't been able to give a fully evaluate?

Henson started this year at the end of January 2005.

We got him via trade end of March 2004.

Bit of a difference in terms of offseason time.

Same thing BP has done with all evaluations.

Don't be an instant evaluator.
 

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Ashwynn said:
Just wondering what ya'lls forecast was for Henson. As I see it, He aint got it figured out yet, he never will. How old is he again? He sat in MLB for 3 years, houston 1 and now his 2-3rd year with us. Thats 6-7 years there. Plus the 2 for him to finish developing so your looking at spending almost a decade on develping a QB???? Landry must be turning over in his grave.

Go out and draft a damn QB and give him 2 years. then at age 35 when he retires you will have gotten 10-12 good years out of him, not 3-5.

No he played minor league baseball for 3 was drafted by Houston when he was still playing baseball so he never spent a year in Houston. He has been with Dallas 2 years now. I don't know were your getting the 6 to 7 years?
 

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Ashwynn said:
Just wondering what ya'lls forecast was for Henson. As I see it, He aint got it figured out yet, he never will. How old is he again? He sat in MLB for 3 years, houston 1 and now his 2-3rd year with us. Thats 6-7 years there. Plus the 2 for him to finish developing so your looking at spending almost a decade on develping a QB???? Landry must be turning over in his grave.

Go out and draft a damn QB and give him 2 years. then at age 35 when he retires you will have gotten 10-12 good years out of him, not 3-5.

That really is painful to read.

Left UM a year early to play 3 years of MLB. That makes him 24.

Been here a year and change. That makes him 25.

2 months younger than Romo for those keeping score at home.
 

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TwoDeep3 said:
with this place looking similar to the Quincy/Hutch wars over the back-ups, of all things.

It's amazing that this question became so heated when so little is ultimately at stake. But I guess it's something of a tradition: Hutch/Carter, George/Lee, Romo/Henson....
 

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OK - I thought he quit baseball when Houston drafted him. I'll give you that one.
I will admit I have not followed him closely ever. I think the Q, Hutch baseball tradition started us off on the wrong foot to begin with. I am so tired of Jerrys experiments. A great athelet does not mean a great football player.
 

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I quit reading about half way through ...

This is more telling about yourself than you know. Can you at least READ an opinion contrary to yours, process the information, and THEN respond? Quite apparently, NOT.
 

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Ashwynn said:
I am so tired of Jerrys experiments.

This is where I scratch what hair I have left on my head..

I know this topic has been covered before. Jerry wasn't alone in this decision.

Next. :bang2:
 

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Ashwynn said:
Just wondering what ya'lls forecast was for Henson. As I see it, He aint got it figured out yet, he never will. How old is he again? He sat in MLB for 3 years, houston 1 and now his 2-3rd year with us. Thats 6-7 years there. Plus the 2 for him to finish developing so your looking at spending almost a decade on develping a QB???? Landry must be turning over in his grave.

Go out and draft a damn QB and give him 2 years. then at age 35 when he retires you will have gotten 10-12 good years out of him, not 3-5.

Staubach was 29, Delhomme, Warner, B. Johnson, and Green 28, Pennington 26 before they became starters.;)
 
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