Reading Tea Leaves - Parcells Speaks Of QBs

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jobberone said:
I like both our young QBs although Romo clearly is better at this point it time.

I don't know why there haven't been more threads devoted to "what the heck do we do if Bledsoe goes down"?

I come back to Jerry's comments:

Now, if Drew Henson were our #1 QB, we would game plan to his strengths. Just like we did with Quincy. But by the same token, we got to go to the one that doesn’t make the bad plays. I know that’s a cliché, but at the end of the game the other night Romo kind of threw the ball in the air and that’s the kind of thing you want to avoid. You’re better off with a little less ability and arm from that position than a QB who makes bad plays. That was the #1 thing we had with Troy Aikman, he just never made the bad play.

It is possible that they might just go for it with Henson if Bledsoe goes down.
 

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blindzebra said:
I come back to Jerry's comments:

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Yep, you keep 'coming back to Jerry's comments' cuz you darn sure can't go back to Parcells'.

Keep reaching, you were wrong and I told you so.
 

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jobberone said:
Romo for a game or two. But I would rather have Vinnie if Bledsoe were to go on IR.

please don't say that. i rather have julius taking direct snaps from center than watching vicenzo ever play again for us. let old vicenzo retire in peace for goodness sakes.
 

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I guess it was a nice read. I just do not know. It seems more like a post of wishful thinking, one man's comprehension. Excuses, or just reaching.

someone will learn under the 2 or 3 yrs Bledsoe is here, Only if BP is staying that long.

That is the Key, Parcells staying or not.
 

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BHendri5 said:
I guess it was a nice read. I just do not know. It seems more like a post of wishful thinking, one man's comprehension. Excuses, or just reaching.

someone will learn under the 2 or 3 yrs Bledsoe is here, Only if BP is staying that long.

That is the Key, Parcells staying or not.


That's what I'm saying. All you hear is the reaching and excuse making. And if you don't agree with the excuses you're 'stupid'. Worthless perspective IMO.
 

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TwoDeep3 said:
There has been a heated discussion on quarterbacks of late, with this place looking similar to the Quincy/Hutch wars over the back-ups, of all things.

People seem to divide their loyalty when this topic comes around. It isn't what is best for the team, but who you prefer, and how you can crow later about your pony in this race crossing the finish line first.

However, Parcells said some things today in the press conference which is both cryptic and telling at the same time. He spoke about the quarterbacks, and his comments do suggest what he thinks.

When asked about Henson, and specifically if he was done, Bill said:




Again he was quizzed later in the press conference about Romo and Henson.






So experience is the key to this battle. Obviously Romo, at this point-in-time has the experience over Henson.

Which is why he is the number two quarterback on this team.

But Bill says more functional. Which states emphatically that Romo can function in this offense with a higher success rate than Henson. But the "developing" comment does have a bearing on this.

Bill makes further comments which are very telling.

Speaking about Bledsoe, he discusses their previous relationship when they were both with New England.




Now factor in what Parcells said about Henson when asked if he had taken a step backwards.



It is clear that Parcells is being very patient with Henson. He has been away from the game for a long while, and it will take some time for him to get acclimated with the speed and decision-making neccessary to move up the depth chart.

But what is unspoken here is what Bill eluded to the other day when he spoke about Ron Wolfe. He stated that Wolfe taught him that you cut your loses. Don't sit around waiting for a player to show you something when what he is showing you is nothing at all.

Cut the guy and move on.

I have seen a lot of comments on this board by the impatient which are ready to cut Henson. I am not sure if this is a comment borne of wanting any competition for Romo to be jettisoned from the team, or just absolute stupidity.

Both the cap ramifacations and the fact that there will be a number of teams ready to sign Henson if he were cut states in three inch letters that this will not happen.

But more importantly Bill said something else in the press conference which was very significant.

He was asked about the quarterback ratings and his reply shoots huge holes in the prevalent theories that abound on boards like these.



To sum up, what he seems to be saying is this.

Don't believe the stats put out on NFL.com on quarterback ratings. You and I and everyone else that is not involved with this team are just voyeurs and nothing more. Each play has a results which would be hidden from anyone that is not on the team using THEIR grading system.

Henson is a work in progress. He is behind Romo because of experience.

His comments about Bledsoe suggest experience will win the day with any of these guys.

But, and this is the crux of the argument.

Obviously Henson has something, or the team would figure a way to move him along. It might be by trade,or outright cut.

Quoting Parcells again:



Does anyone here truly think Henson is the 52nd or 53rd player on this roster?

There must be something there or Parcells wouldn't waste his time with this player. And the notion that this something isn't significant doesn't take into consideration that they don't want someone to just carry a clipboard. Parcells is not the type of coach to waste a spot on the team if the player doesn't have potential.

Quantifiable potential.

The demise of young Mr. Henson has been premature at best.

The suggestion that Romo is the future may be also.

There is nothing written in stone as yet other than this season Romo will be #2.

At this time. That could change.


Did Parcells come out and said that Hutch sucks, no. Mark it down, Henson's days are numbered. They'll probably give him one more year, but that's all.
Funny that now people have noticed that qb ratings aren't an end-all be-all, now that Carter is gone. Parcell's says that he's too old to lose. When these qb's stink it up this year, he'll go after a 'real qb' instead of messing around with these goof balls.
 

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blindzebra said:
Too bad it will get turned into a 10 page flamer by those who cannot read anything positive about Henson, just like Rack's thoughtful thread yesterday.;)

Great post Two Deep:bravo:


What are these positives you're talking about, certainly not qb rating, completion percentage or td passes? On most rosters, Bledsoe would be second or third string and Romo and Henson would have been cut long ago.
 

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Ashwynn said:
Just wondering what ya'lls forecast was for Henson. As I see it, He aint got it figured out yet, he never will. How old is he again? He sat in MLB for 3 years, houston 1 and now his 2-3rd year with us. Thats 6-7 years there. Plus the 2 for him to finish developing so your looking at spending almost a decade on develping a QB???? Landry must be turning over in his grave.

Go out and draft a damn QB and give him 2 years. then at age 35 when he retires you will have gotten 10-12 good years out of him, not 3-5.


There you go.Tell 'em about it.
 

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Pretty much exactly what I posted yesterday only I did it in less words and before Parcells press conference. ;)


Parcells doesn't hate Henson. He just knows he isn't ready. I don't think he even expected Henson to be ready yet. He's being patient with him, as we all should.


And let me tell you something, it is a whole lot easier going through these QB threads with BnA on ignore. ;)
 

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Ashwynn said:
Do you see henson being ready by 29? I sure as hell dont see any Staubach in henson.

I don't see any Staubach in anyone on the entire league.
 

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Banned_n_austin said:
I quit reading about half way through ...


Same here. Much ado about nothing. Henson is not even worthing talking about.

Woody Paige of 'Cold Pizza' said the Cowboys should stop worring about who their back up is until they get a 'starter'. I couldn't agree more. The recent optimism on this board will take a severe hit when we play Jacksonville on Thursday. They actually have a pretty good defense, unlike Seattle and Houston.
 

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kartr said:
Did Parcells come out and said that Hutch sucks, no. Mark it down, Henson's days are numbered. They'll probably give him one more year, but that's all.
Funny that now people have noticed that qb ratings aren't an end-all be-all, now that Carter is gone. Parcell's says that he's too old to lose. When these qb's stink it up this year, he'll go after a 'real qb' instead of messing around with these goof balls.


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kartr said:
Same here. Much ado about nothing. Henson is not even worthing talking about.

Woody Paige of 'Cold Pizza' said the Cowboys should stop worring about who their back up is until they get a 'starter'. I couldn't agree more. The recent optimism on this board will take a severe hit when we play Jacksonville on Thursday. They actually have a pretty good defense, unlike Seattle and Houston.

Watch Arizona's defense this year. I think they are vastly underrated.
 

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kartr said:
Same here. Much ado about nothing. Henson is not even worthing talking about.

Woody Paige of 'Cold Pizza' said the Cowboys should stop worring about who their back up is until they get a 'starter'. I couldn't agree more. The recent optimism on this board will take a severe hit when we play Jacksonville on Thursday. They actually have a pretty good defense, unlike Seattle and Houston.


Yet here you are... 'talking' about him. And you're gonna continue to do so, post after post after post after post.
 

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kartr said:
What are these positives you're talking about, certainly not qb rating, completion percentage or td passes? On most rosters, Bledsoe would be second or third string and Romo and Henson would have been cut long ago.

And there are just as many rosters who would love to have Bledsoe and both our backups. :rolleyes:
 

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Rack said:
Yet here you are... 'talking' about him. And you're gonna continue to do so, post after post after post after post.

Kartr = annoying
JJT = annoying

Kartr = JJT

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kartr said:
Same here. Much ado about nothing. Henson is not even worthing talking about.

Woody Paige of 'Cold Pizza' said the Cowboys should stop worring about who their back up is until they get a 'starter'. I couldn't agree more. The recent optimism on this board will take a severe hit when we play Jacksonville on Thursday. They actually have a pretty good defense, unlike Seattle and Houston.

It's head-up-the-butt thinking. I'm just surprised so many have taken to that way of thinking. Most of these people have never even seen him play and are basing all this hype off of hearsay and what not.

It's a joke that now that it's very apparent that Henson's job was TAKEN and EARNED by an UDFA. Now, everyone that thought he was going to start or beat out Romo ... are all of a sudden on the "he's developing" bandwagon. Even funnier is, they're acting like this was their position all along.

:lmao:

I have the feeling with all the hatred and animosity towards me going on here lately, that I'm just going to have to fire back with what has been my point all along ... I'm thinking some old threads might suffice ...
 

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Excellent post and well thought out. Hopefully this will settle some issues with people no matter if your for or against Henson. I am for him, but also admit he is not ready. Have no opinion if he or Romo should be the backup. Because the coaches know more and better than I do. I trust their judgement.
 
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