Realistically, the Eagles will win the East. So, here's the wild-card race

[ScipioCowboy]

It's highly possible the Eagles are just better across the board.

 

[cheftjpeck]

Possible, but is it likely?

Tell me the likliehood of you giving me tonight's lotto numbers before they are drawn ... Last time I checked is we can not predict the future .. Just look at % and probabilities without finite guarantees

 

[xwalker]

Fans will say, "Just win and none of this tiebreaker stuff matters!"............except, of course, we all know Dallas isn't going to just keep on winning. We'll be very lucky to be end up 11-5.



The Eagles are 3-0 in the NFC East. The Cowboys are 2-2.

For Dallas to win the division tiebreaker, the Cowboys would have to go undefeated over their remaining division games to finish 4-2 while the Eagles would have to go winless over their remaining division games to finish 3-3. Not going to happen, really.

Is that true? If the Cowboys beat the Eagles in the next game and beat the Skins and the Eagles lose to either the Skins or Giants, then they are both 4-2 in the division. Who has the tie breaker in that situation?

 

[windward]

Is that true? If the Cowboys beat the Eagles in the next game and beat the Skins and the Eagles lose to either the Skins or Giants, then they are both 4-2 in the division. Who has the tie breaker in that situation?

It would go to common games which Philly would win assuming we beat Chicago.

If we lose to Chicago it would go to conference record. Only way we have a better conference record when tied with Philly is to lose/tie to the Colts. In that scenario we would need Philly to lose to Seattle in addition to us and was/Nyg.

If we are tied at conference record it would go to strength of victory. We currently have a small lead over Philly at this point but that could change.

 

[StarBoyz83]

If Seattle beats Philly, they will win their division. That's not a good thing.

Ya I think either way the cardinals and seahawks are getting in.

 

[MRV52]

I don't. Seattle will need more than that popgun offense to win In Philly. Washington has a shot, and maybe us. They've been dominant at home winning their last 10 games.

Defense is where its at and Seattle is playing with fire right now. Doubt Philly will score more than 14 on them. Seattle manhandled SF and made it look real easy. Philly secondary is horrible and they are going to have a long day.

 

[CowboysFanSince88]

Fans will say, "Just win and none of this tiebreaker stuff matters!"............except, of course, we all know Dallas isn't going to just keep on winning. We'll be very lucky to be end up 11-5.



The Eagles are 3-0 in the NFC East. The Cowboys are 2-2.

For Dallas to win the division tiebreaker, the Cowboys would have to go undefeated over their remaining division games to finish 4-2 while the Eagles would have to go winless over their remaining division games to finish 3-3. Not going to happen, really.

For the Cowboys to overtake the Eagles directly via superior win-loss record, they'd need some unlikely Eagles collapse. For Dallas to be 12-4 and Philly 11-5, for instance, the Cowboys would have to finish 4-0 and the Eagles finish 2-2. Or the Cowboys could go 3-1, but the Eagles would have to go 1-3.

So let's look at the wild cards.

We really need Arizona to keep on winning. We don't want the Cardinals to fall to the wild card level, because they hold the tiebreaker over Dallas. If the Cardinals fall to the wild card level, the Cowboys could get ejected from a playoff berth.

We want San Francisco to keep on losing. They hold the tiebreaker over Dallas. Right now Dallas is 8-4 and San Fran is 7-5, so let's keep things that way; them a game below us. We want Detroit and Seattle to keep on losing.

Again, if we keep winning, the division title might be ours - but let's be frank: The wild card playoff berth is, realistically, where it's at.

I agree 100% which is why we all have to be EAGLES FANS next week when they play seattle

 

[Alexander]

I agree 100% which is why we all have to be EAGLES FANS next week when they play seattle

Never.

Especially after they rubbed our noses in it.

As much talk about what makes a "real fan" there is on this board, I cannot fathom how anyone would ever root for a hated rival with this much football to be played.

I get it rooting for them on say the last week of the season.

But this is insane.

 

[CowboysFanSince88]

I fully expect Seattle to win a road game against Sanchez. Which means If we take care of business, we will be playing for the division lead in 15 days.

Chicago worries me though. Cutler will eat this defense up

That's why I think this thread should have been posted on dec 5th instead of nov 29th. Now if we beat chicago then the seattle game becomes a WIN/WIN situation because

1. If the Eagles win we are back in the 5th spot for the wildcard

2. if Seattle win we are playing for the division lead in Philly which would excite me very much

 

[CowboysFanSince88]

Never.

Especially after they rubbed our noses in it.

As much talk about what makes a "real fan" there is on this board, I cannot fathom how anyone would ever root for a hated rival with this much football to be played.

I get it rooting for them on say the last week of the season.

But this is insane.

I didn't say we have to watch the game, just check the score in 3 hours to see if the eagles won. I don't watch eagles games unless they are playing the cowboys. So we would be rooting from a DISTANCE and checking the score to see what happened after the game is over

 

[CowboysFanSince88]

It's highly possible the Eagles are just better across the board.

I won't say that until we lose to them again

 

[Everson24]

No matter what, It looks like we will not get in at 10-6 unless Seattle, Philly or Detroit lose some game where they are the heavy favorite. We can only lose one more game if we want to get it the tournament.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The team looked tired....as will happen when you get the biggest scheduling shaft in NFL history (not hyperbole. Fact).

And they got beat handily. Those things happen in a long season. Broncos and Patriots and Packers all have losses where they looked like "the other team wanted it more."

In reality...the other team gets paid too.

Like Garrett....look at the game unemotionally...win or lose...and move on.

Romo is a better player than he showed. Our offensive line is better than they showed. Our coaching staff is better than they showed.

But yeah let's use this game as a referendum on our season and not...say...the Seahawks game? Because that makes sense?

You picked the one team above 500 we beat all year............and the only team above 500 we beat.............to use as a referendum on our season instead of Philly?

Who is cherry picking now?

 

[Beast_from_East]

Maybe its better if we weren't focused?Otherwise we just straight up got our socks beat off. Lack of focus and preparation can be corrected. But if Philly is just that much better than us, well then season over. Which one do you want it to be?

Its quite a dilemma for the pro Garrett crowd...............two options

A. The team is unprepared and unfocused and had no enthusiasm for the game (per Jerry), which is a direct shot against Garrett not having his team ready to play.

B. Garrett had the team ready to play and Philly is just that much better than we are. This looks bad because in 2 seasons Chip Kelly has built a team that totally dominates us while Opie is working on the "half a decade plan" to a winning season.


Yes, quite a dilemma indeed.

 

[windward]

Its quite a dilemma for the pro Garrett crowd...............two options

A. The team is unprepared and unfocused and had no enthusiasm for the game (per Jerry), which is a direct shot against Garrett not having his team ready to play.

B. Garrett had the team ready to play and Philly is just that much better than we are. This looks bad because in 2 seasons Chip Kelly has built a team that totally dominates us while Opie is working on the "half a decade plan" to a winning season.


Yes, quite a dilemma indeed.

It's also a false dilemma. Sometimes games just get away from you and aren't a referendum of your season at large.

We have played four games so far vs teams with winning records. I'd throw out the Arizona game due to the Weeden factor which leaves us with Seattle, San Fran and Philly.

We played our best game vs Seattle obviously. San Fran team played well with exception of Tony and turning ball over four times in first half. Game got away early. Just like Philly

 

[CowboysFanSince88]

The Bad News is if we do lose to the Bears the season maybe over because the wildcard would be out of reach since Detroit has 3 cake games in a row, and seattle has niners and rams at home in december .

so that means the eagles would have to win the following week or seattle goes to 9-4 with 2 games at home vs the rams and niners
and detroit would have tampa putting them at 9-4 with games against the vikings and bears.

So our chances would be extremely slim to get a wildcard

 

[CowboysFanSince88]

No matter what, It looks like we will not get in at 10-6 unless Seattle, Philly or Detroit lose some game where they are the heavy favorite. We can only lose one more game if we want to get it the tournament.

Not with seattle having 2 home games vs rams and niners and detroit playing the bucs and bears

 

[cowboyblue22]

its win and you are in if the team loses to the bears its over as far as playoffs they have to win them all.

 

[big dog cowboy]

It's highly possible the Eagles are just better across the board.

Not if the criteria used is the worst game of the year for us.

 

[LatinMind]

Fans will say, "Just win and none of this tiebreaker stuff matters!"............except, of course, we all know Dallas isn't going to just keep on winning. We'll be very lucky to be end up 11-5.



The Eagles are 3-0 in the NFC East. The Cowboys are 2-2.

For Dallas to win the division tiebreaker, the Cowboys would have to go undefeated over their remaining division games to finish 4-2 while the Eagles would have to go winless over their remaining division games to finish 3-3. Not going to happen, really.

For the Cowboys to overtake the Eagles directly via superior win-loss record, they'd need some unlikely Eagles collapse. For Dallas to be 12-4 and Philly 11-5, for instance, the Cowboys would have to finish 4-0 and the Eagles finish 2-2. Or the Cowboys could go 3-1, but the Eagles would have to go 1-3.

So let's look at the wild cards.

We really need Arizona to keep on winning. We don't want the Cardinals to fall to the wild card level, because they hold the tiebreaker over Dallas. If the Cardinals fall to the wild card level, the Cowboys could get ejected from a playoff berth.

We want San Francisco to keep on losing. They hold the tiebreaker over Dallas. Right now Dallas is 8-4 and San Fran is 7-5, so let's keep things that way; them a game below us. We want Detroit and Seattle to keep on losing.

Again, if we keep winning, the division title might be ours - but let's be frank: The wild card playoff berth is, realistically, where it's at.

Philly will lose in SEA next week, and if Dallas beats then the week after back in first place. Whats with all this realistic talk?