Really bad story on Gregory

iceberg said:
don't really care what he likes and doesn't like to do. w/o clearance and a doc note saying this is for his treatment, he shouldn't be doing it and then going BUT BUT BUT. he's put the team in a crap position and his continued pot head ways are costing him dearly.

this has been a concern since before drafting him and he's lived up to that concern. to expect him to *ever* play again is just wishful thinking.
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even *if* we were to assume he'd be drug free going forward, I'm not sure what we can expect from him after missing 2 seasons.
 
The saddest part is that - for whatever reason - smoking pot is more important to him than playing football. And he's missing out on being a part of what looks like a special team doing that. And it's looking more and more like he will be missing out on what might have been a lucrative career as well.

Sad.
 
iceberg said:
don't really care what he likes and doesn't like to do. w/o clearance and a doc note saying this is for his treatment, he shouldn't be doing it and then going BUT BUT BUT. he's put the team in a crap position and his continued pot head ways are costing him dearly.

this has been a concern since before drafting him and he's lived up to that concern. to expect him to *ever* play again is just wishful thinking.
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what you care about is far less relevant than what he cares about.

marijuana usage passed on every ballot it has been on in the US in the past 5 years.
it's going to eventually be legalized on a large scale.
the NFL is going to eventually remove it from testing and punishment.

will that happen in time to effect gregory's ability to play in the NFL? no idea.
he's 23.

the reality is gregory and guys like him missing substantial time for weed usage are the ones most likely to get the NFLPA to suck it up and fight for the drug testing adjustments.

the cowboys likely would have never won the 3 Super Bowls they did in the 90s if weed were outlawed and those players were tested to the extent gregory is.
 
jterrell said:
what you care about is far less relevant than what he cares about.

marijuana usage passed on every ballot it has been on in the US in the past 5 years.
it's going to eventually be legalized on a large scale.
the NFL is going to eventually remove it from testing and punishment.

will that happen in time to effect gregory's ability to play in the NFL? no idea.
he's 23.

the reality is gregory and guys like him missing substantial time for weed usage are the ones most likely to get the NFLPA to suck it up and fight for the drug testing adjustments.

the cowboys likely would have never won the 3 Super Bowls they did in the 90s if weed were outlawed and those players were tested to the extent gregory is.
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arguing for legal use is a totally separate argument. you wanna go there, see you in off topic.

today - the NFL says no. even if legal they may still say NO. i don't see the NFL rushing to colorado and seattle to tell those teams "hey, smoke up" so i'm pretty damn sure regardless of the legalities the NFL (as can all employers) have their own code of conduct.

yes. that may change over the years if this is legalized everywhere. but we're many many years away from that. so - for today -

gregory is being about as big a ******* as he can be. ANYONE validating this for his "medical issues" is just being willfully stupid and even kicking that up a notch to parade said stupidity in front of us while wearing a tutu and dancing to xmas music.

you have ZERO idea what the NFL will do and NO idea when or IF any other state will legalize it soon. between you and me - i hope they do. i'd LOVE for that to happen. but if my job still said "no" then it would do me no good for it to be legal cause i'm not risking my career for it and hell, i only make a fraction of what he does and overall, not even that if he kept his head on straight.

so if you want to dance to the nutcracker suite while saying ONE DAY ALL THIS WILL BE LEGAL AND THEN YOU'LL BE SORRY - go ahead.

but today, now, for gregory it is not. the choices he is making classifies him as a complete and total fool and if you want to support that, have fun.

you've already got the dance moves.
 
iceberg said:
arguing for legal use is a totally separate argument. you wanna go there, see you in off topic.

today - the NFL says no. even if legal they may still say NO. i don't see the NFL rushing to colorado and seattle to tell those teams "hey, smoke up" so i'm pretty damn sure regardless of the legalities the NFL (as can all employers) have their own code of conduct.

yes. that may change over the years if this is legalized everywhere. but we're many many years away from that. so - for today -

gregory is being about as big a ******* as he can be. ANYONE validating this for his "medical issues" is just being willfully stupid and even kicking that up a notch to parade said stupidity in front of us while wearing a tutu and dancing to xmas music.

you have ZERO idea what the NFL will do and NO idea when or IF any other state will legalize it soon. between you and me - i hope they do. i'd LOVE for that to happen. but if my job still said "no" then it would do me no good for it to be legal cause i'm not risking my career for it and hell, i only make a fraction of what he does and overall, not even that if he kept his head on straight.

so if you want to dance to the nutcracker suite while saying ONE DAY ALL THIS WILL BE LEGAL AND THEN YOU'LL BE SORRY - go ahead.

but today, now, for gregory it is not. the choices he is making classifies him as a complete and total fool and if you want to support that, have fun.

you've already got the dance moves.
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You are struggling to deal with reality.
Easy to find fault with Gregory but we've had dozens of players with bi-polar issues here and we've seen what happens when those guys don't medicate.
Since the prescribed medication includes awesome side effects like loss of libido lots of young people refuse to take them, but weed suffices or so most of these people think.

I don't think Gregory is very good.
I might have been only guy saying he wasn't a top 10 talent when he came out.

But I am not going to be a complete idiot and suggest he should stay clean even if that means he might pull an Alonzo Spellmen.
 
While taking my drug test this morning here at my job, I could not help but laugh thinking how much my 50 some odd thousand dollar a year job meant to me that I would take this test and here we have a guy in Gregory who has a 4 year worth $3,814,936 and the opportunity to make so much more and yet means so little to him. Not feeling the sympathy this morning. I know I passed my drug test can Gregory even pass 1?
 
jterrell said:
You are struggling to deal with reality.
Easy to find fault with Gregory but we've had dozens of players with bi-polar issues here and we've seen what happens when those guys don't medicate.
Since the prescribed medication includes awesome side effects like loss of libido lots of young people refuse to take them, but weed suffices or so most of these people think.

I don't think Gregory is very good.
I might have been only guy saying he wasn't a top 10 talent when he came out.

But I am not going to be a complete idiot and suggest he should stay clean even if that means he might pull an Alonzo Spellmen.
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yea, so show me where i said that.

all i said is the NFL doesn't allow this form of "treatment" so trying to hide behind the fact that one day they SHOULD is stupid.

if he wants to smoke his life away i simply don't care. his life. smoke up, johnny. but to say the NFL needs to bend their rules cause gregory finds it hard to deal with life w/o a doob is stupid and he's stupid for putting pot ahead of a million dollar career.

he can choose whatever road he wants to go down and hey - have it at, gregory. but how i'm the one having a hard time dealing with reality when you're the one who's saying it will one day be legal so let it slide now -

heh, that's funny **** right there.
 
iceberg said:
yea, so show me where i said that.

all i said is the NFL doesn't allow this form of "treatment" so trying to hide behind the fact that one day they SHOULD is stupid.

if he wants to smoke his life away i simply don't care. his life. smoke up, johnny. but to say the NFL needs to bend their rules cause gregory finds it hard to deal with life w/o a doob is stupid and he's stupid for putting pot ahead of a million dollar career.

he can choose whatever road he wants to go down and hey - have it at, gregory. but how i'm the one having a hard time dealing with reality when you're the one who's saying it will one day be legal so let it slide now -

heh, that's funny **** right there.
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That is what Ricky Williams did, actually walked away from the game for a while so he could enjoy lighting up. These players have choices but the NFL like any other business has a right to drug test. Even business in Colorado are able to drug test employees despite the fact the state says you are allowed to smoke.
 
Doomsday101 said:
That is what Ricky Williams did, actually walked away from the game for a while so he could enjoy lighting up. These players have choices but the NFL like any other business has a right to drug test. Even business in Colorado are able to drug test employees despite the fact the state says you are allowed to smoke.
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and that was my point. regardless of what may or may not be legal one day -

today
in the nfl
smoking weed is illegal
no exceptions

all this wishing is just nuts. he knows the rules and he can either abide by them or not. the not choice is certainly his but it carries consequences.

no exceptions.
 
iceberg said:
and that was my point. regardless of what may or may not be legal one day -

today
in the nfl
smoking weed is illegal
no exceptions

all this wishing is just nuts. he knows the rules and he can either abide by them or not. the not choice is certainly his but it carries consequences.

no exceptions.
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I know many here who think because some of us are not blaming the league for their policy which frankly is a very lax policy heck you have to fail 3 times before you get a 4 game suspension, the next gives you 8 and yet another gets you a year. My job 1 gets you fired, so trying to tell me how unfair the league is would be a joke in my eyes.

Lastly is seems many of those people are only interested in Gregory getting to play not his actual well being, fact is the guy has a problem and league altering the rules does nothing to help him with this real problem, if anything it will only increase his issues.
 
Gregory is not smoking pot for medical issues. He is smoking pot because he likes to get high period. If he was smoking pot for medical reasons he would be using cbd oils which do not have thc. Nick diaz was smoking cbd oils after his most recent fights to heal up. Guess what, those oils had all the medical benefits of marijuana without thc.
 
neosapien23 said:
Gregory is not smoking pot for medical issues. He is smoking pot because he likes to get high period. If he was smoking pot for medical reasons he would be using cbd oils which do not have thc. Nick diaz was smoking cbd oils after his most recent fights to heal up. Guess what, those oils had all the medical benefits of marijuana without thc.
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I dont even understand why Gregory is that important any more.

He is going to be suspended for a long time.
Whatever.
He cannot help us now.

He does not cause anything while suspended, whether it is cap and does not accrue service time.
No need to release him in case pot policy changes or he changes, however unlikely.
Most likely a lost cause - not all draft picks make it.

Jerry is probably going to try to help him.
That gives Gregory a fighting chance and allows us to monitor him in some way.
Good for Jerry.
 
SultanOfSix said:
I haven't seen anything posted about him, but is he now eligible to play?
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If rumors where true from last week he has failed another drug test or missed a test and is out all this year and pretty much the entire year next season
 
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