RECAP: Mickey's Ranch Report on Dunham and Miller

[theebs]

you can't run the slant against man-coverage, that's for sure

HuH?

Isnt that the perfect time to run a slant?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

HuH?

Isnt that the perfect time to run a slant?

that would be against zone coverage

 

[theebs]

that would be against zone coverage

really?

in zone the corner would be playing an area and more likely to jump a slant, plus if the linebacker inside of the corner is in zone he will most likely be dropping into an area where the slant would be run.

There is a reason, the slant is an adjustment to a blitz.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

really?

in zone the corner would be playing an area and more likely to jump a slant, plus if the linebacker inside of the corner is in zone he will most likely be dropping into an area where the slant would be run.

There is a reason, the slant is an adjustment to a blitz.

the slant takes advantage of any cushion the CB gives the WR

you can't continually run the slant on every play, because yes, a CB is going to play tighter and is going to start timing them

zone coverage is often used to take away the deep ball

 

[big dog cowboy]

The smoke continues to grow larger.

Is there an actual fire?

:bomb:

 

[Idgit]

I honestly love the talent on this team on offense, with or without TO. I think last year we kept running the offense like T.O. is a #1 WR, and he's not anymore. He can't run all the routes, Mickey was right he can really only run the drag well unless he gets a free release. He's about a 40 yard per game receiver otherwise. I think without him we would see a much more functional offense, one that isn't trying to fit round pegs in square holes.

The smoke continues to grow larger.

Is there an actual fire?

well the house is burning down..

Yeah, but TO called the fire department and told them 'thank God you guys got here in time.' I think everything's fine, now.

 

[Apollo Creed]

the slant takes advantage of any cushion the CB gives the WR

you can't continually run the slant on every play, because yes, a CB is going to play tighter and is going to start timing them

zone coverage is often used to take away the deep ball

Terry Glenn made a living off the slant, and if the corner started to slide up - he would hit them with a slant and go and be gone for 6.

None of our guys are nearly as explosive and quick as he was though, including Owens.

 

[khiladi]

You notice that now teams play more Cover 2 to take away a WR. To beat it you have to have the ability to run slant routes to the inside, and from what I’ve heard he’s lost a lot of ability to run the slant route. He could run the drag route really well. But to make that hard quick cut on the slant route, he was having a lot of problems.

Mickey is about as dumb as they come. If it had to do with TO, then why didn't Garrett throw a freakin' slant to Roy Williams the whole year, except for once in the Eagles game, per his own words, when the slant is Roy's bread and butter... I'm getting tired of this idiocy masked in the garb of actual football analysis...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Terry Glenn made a living off the slant, and if the corner started to slide up - he would hit them with a slant and go and be gone for 6.

None of our guys are nearly as explosive and quick as he was though, including Owens.

we definitely need that option back in our offense, too many tall, linear players and not enough agility

 

[TheDude]

Of course you can, if you can get off a jam...

Why is the safety over the top on every play,

boy, teams are doubling and tripling someone when they don't need to and the offense makes no adjustment to go to the future #1 who baking cakes all alone on every play.

Has anyone watched a game this year?

 

[TheDude]

Yep.

T.O. dropped many slant passes. I remember recalling a couple of passes picked off this year because the ball popped right in the air because he couldn't hold on to the ball.

"dropped" only one. He was belted by Rogers right as the ball got there.

The other 2 were B Johnson throwing it 5 yds in front of him v NYG #1 and Romo throwing it 5 yds behind him to Hall in Wash #2.

burnt Dawkins for a TD in Philly #1 and burnt the Cincy D on a deep slant for a 57 yd TD for the game clincher

 

[TheDude]

we definitely need that option back in our offense, too many tall, linear players and not enough agility

Valid point. Why I didn't think we needed RW11 for all those picks. Austin is and Hurd are the same guys.

But at least passes per game are WR screens. Roy and TO types aren't as good at those as Glenn and S moss types.

They are too big for the CB to at least hold up long enough for help to arrive. S Moss is a smaller target to hit and can spin away quicker and help doesn't have time to get there. This is just the difference in >6'3" WR and <6'0" WR

 

[Apollo Creed]

Valid point. Why I didn't think we needed RW11 for all those picks. Austin is and Hurd are the same guys.

But at least passes per game are WR screens. Roy and TO types aren't as good at those as Glenn and S moss types.

They are too big for the CB to at least hold up long enough for help to arrive. S Moss is a smaller target to hit and can spin away quicker and help doesn't have time to get there. This is just the difference in >6'3" WR and <6'0" WR

Red Jesus was really high on Eddie Royal and Johnny Lee Higgens. Either would've been a great addition.

 

[Stash]

we definitely need that option back in our offense, too many tall, linear players and not enough agility

Whammo!

Right on the money!

Too many long-striding gazelles and not enough wiggle.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Whammo!

Right on the money!

Too many long-striding gazelles and not enough wiggle.

I was really high on DeSean Jackson and everyone said I was just really high.

I'm pimping Percy Harvin just as hard his year.

 

[Stash]

I was really high on DeSean Jackson and everyone said I was just really high.

I'm pimping Percy Harvin just as hard his year.

Looking back on it, DeSean Jackson would have made more sense than Bennett did.

The Cowboys could have traded up for Jackson when he started to slide if they wanted to and I think he would have added just the dimension this offense could use, to say nothing of the return game.

Harvin will go too high for Dallas' needs I think.

Jackson was there for the taking and they didn't bite.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Valid point. Why I didn't think we needed RW11 for all those picks. Austin is and Hurd are the same guys.

But at least passes per game are WR screens. Roy and TO types aren't as good at those as Glenn and S moss types.

They are too big for the CB to at least hold up long enough for help to arrive. S Moss is a smaller target to hit and can spin away quicker and help doesn't have time to get there. This is just the difference in >6'3" WR and <6'0" WR

yep, tall WRs are great in the red-zone, getting off jams, and getting downfield, but the small, quick guys are best getting off the line and into their routes quickly

Whammo!

Right on the money!

Too many long-striding gazelles and not enough wiggle.

we're too one-dimensional

it suits our coordinator well

I was really high on DeSean Jackson and everyone said I was just really high.

I'm pimping Percy Harvin just as hard his year.

you weren't the only one who was high on him

 

[khiladi]

Yep.

T.O. dropped many slant passes. I remember recalling a couple of passes picked off this year because the ball popped right in the air because he couldn't hold on to the ball.

It happened twice in the Commanders game. The one he got popped, was a perfectly timed play by the CB and had nothing to do with TO. He hit TO right when it was in his hands. Otherwise, the Cowboys wre moving the ball with ease and a short passing game. If Romo didn't put the ball in the hands of Hall, who was behind TO on the second INT, TO would have taken it for 6. I don't blame Romo though, considering Red Genius has no knowledge of tempo and rhythm when it comes to his QB. He has his QB tossing deep balls on the run all day... What a joke..

The irony of your bringing this up is, it was actually the only game that Garrett called that was actually credible. It was the only actual game he differed from the standard norm.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

I was really high on DeSean Jackson and everyone said I was just really high.

I'm pimping Percy Harvin just as hard his year.

Harvin could be terrific. I think the need for a quick receiver was the reason so many people put such unreasonable hope behind Amendola. The team needed the guy everyone sort of wished him to be. Unfortunately, he wasn't that guy.

 

[Stash]

yep, tall WRs are great in the red-zone, getting off jams, and getting downfield, but the small, quick guys are best getting off the line and into their routes quickly

not to mention the quick guys open things up for the others all over the field as well, especially a guy with Jackson's speed.

we're too one-dimensional

it suits our coordinator well

Agreed. Garrett would probably just have him running straight too.

you weren't the only one who was high on him

I didn't feel he was worth Dallas' first #1 pick, but when he slid to Round 2 I hoped they'd capitalize.

But I guess they gotta keep that TE cupboard overstocked...