Recent and soon to be moves by the front office is for leverage against Dak

[USArmyVet]

The big flaw in your theory here is that Dak DIDNT falter last season. In fact the Cowboys finally went to the plyoffs 2 years in a row that hasnt happened in decades. 12-5 and actually won a playoff game. Dak played lights out in sending Brady into retirement.

Unlike you, football people actually look at the entire picture rather then cherry picking.

Dak didn't go 12-5 as he missed 5 games, much like he missed 1 game in 2021 and 11-1/2 games in 2020....and the playoffs saw Dak play poorly in both losses to SF in 2021 and 2022....lastly, Dak led the league in INT's in spite of missing 5 games (some would say that is playing poorly and faltering).

Funny you say I am cherry picking yet you cherry pick the TB playoff performance while ignoring the crap games against SF that the TB game was in between.

 

[Jarv]

The FO does not have leverage. Adding a QB who lost a backup job to Sam Darnold is not leverage. Signing other players is not leverage.

Here is what leverage is: being regarded by the entire league as a top 10 QB who will be able to walk as a true free agent in 2 seasons with no ability to tag. That is leverage. The only way Dallas could actually try and get leverage is to have one of the top 2 picks next year, but that isn’t going to happen.

I'm not an expert on this so can you please explain to me why he couldn't be tagged?

 

[USArmyVet]

For all the knuckleheads that want to get rid of him and replace him with a 3rd string QB.

So you call out knuckleheads yet post a list of Dak comparing him to 3 QB's that each won Super Bowls...yet anyone wanting Dak gone is a knucklehead? Yeah, okay.

 

[USArmyVet]

No he did not. You seem to have failed to mention the 12 and 5 record in back to back years and two playoff wins. .How many other playoff wins did we have in 25 years prior??? We have only 5 since 1996. And Dak has 2 of the five. Think about this, we only made the playoffs from 1996 until 2016, 8x. Dak has been in 5 playoff games since 2016. I agree Dak needs to play better, but football is not a one man game. How many times has the defense let us down in the playoffs?? Other GM's will pick up Dak. He is a good starting QB in this league, despite what some of our fans think.

Dak was 12-5 in back-to-back seasons? Try 19-9, not 24-10 as he missed 1 game in 2021 and 5 games in 2022.

 

[Ken]

Solidifying the defense by extending Diggs, the raise Martin received, trading for Lance, today's extension of Steele and the incoming extension of Lamb is all being done as part of a strategic roster construction so that when Dak and the front office negotiate a new deal, the front office is going to be able to say we've given you all these key pieces for success, now it's time that you work with us.

Plus, the front office is going to let them know they can not budge with Micah needing an extension as soon as next year.

Dak got the max deal last time around.

Now it's time for him to take a team friendly deal for a Superbowl run.

If not, then it will be best for both parties to go their separate ways.

Hopefully a team friendly extension is worked out with Dak.

As much as it pains me to say it...the Lance move is a move toward moving on from Dak. It tells me that they are not happy with the negotiations and Dak is asking for the world.

I hope I am wrong on this but they are protecting themselves.

 

[USArmyVet]

No one knows what is going through Jerry's mind, so you could be right. The Cowboys have gained 0 leverage with Lance. It would be akin to me saying put down that AK-47 because I now have a single action revolver.

Let me be clear. I don't know that Dak will get top market value from another team. But I can assure you Dak won't care if he could or couldn't. He's getting it from us or moving on. That's how it works. He's not taking anything team friendly. He doesn't have to. There's nothing compelling him to do so.

Now if Dak completely craps the bed in 2023, anything is possible. No one pays a crap QB top market value. But if he doesn't, the Cowboys have zero leverage against him.

Well the AK comparison could be spot on given the 'spray and prey' mentality of both the AK and Dak.

 

[USArmyVet]

I'm not an expert on this so can you please explain to me why he couldn't be tagged?

His contract was written in such a way that Dak has a no-trade clause and a clause that states Dak can't be tagged in any way. JJ ignorantly agreed to that but now it's time for Dak to pay the piper.

 

[USArmyVet]

As much as it pains me to say it...the Lance move is a move toward moving on from Dak. It tells me that they are not happy with the negotiations and Dak is asking for the world.

I hope I am wrong on this but they are protecting themselves.

While Lance has struggled with injuries and his time in SF in terms of development, his pedigree is based on his draft selection makes him an upgrade over any backup QB Dallas has had in the Dak tenure and I agree this is JJ saying we now have a 23-year old former #3 overall draft pick that we can develop in 2023 in time for the 2024 Dak negotiations.
While some say Dallas has zero leverage, I agree this is JJ developing leverage as he has put all the pieces in place for Dak to take this team to the NFCCG and possibly Super Bowl or it's time to move on from Dak.

 

[Vtwin]

As much as it pains me to say it...the Lance move is a move toward moving on from Dak. It tells me that they are not happy with the negotiations and Dak is asking for the world.

I hope I am wrong on this but they are protecting themselves.

Well, you've been wrong about everything else so the odds are in your favor!

 

[Ken]

Well, you've been wrong about everything else so the odds are in your favor!

Go ahead and name the things I was wrong about...

keep in mind I said when the Eagles took Hurts in the draft that the only way it made sense was that they were planning to move on from Wentz.

Everyone thought I was crazy....as usual.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

As much as it pains me to say it...the Lance move is a move toward moving on from Dak. It tells me that they are not happy with the negotiations and Dak is asking for the world.

I hope I am wrong on this but they are protecting themselves.

is hedging bets. hoping lance works out. if it does we have all the leverage in dak renegotiations. if it doesn't, then Dak and his agent have leverage.

its a good move by Jerry and Cowboys, as they had no other options.

 

[Vtwin]

Go ahead and name the things I was wrong about...

Calm down. I was just busting your chops. Couldn't resist taking a swing at that softball.

Besides, it would take me the rest of the morning to type all that out.....

 

[Ken]

is hedging bets. hoping lance works out. if it does we have all the leverage in dak renegotiations. if it doesn't, then Dak and his agent have leverage.

its a good move by Jerry and Cowboys, as they had no other options.

It is a win win for Dallas. If they renegotiate Dak and get him at a team friendly deal.. it is a win. If Trey also develops....you can trade him for a haul potentially.

If Dak is unreasonable or flames out in a playoff game.. in a year or two(likely 2), you can trade him for a haul and move on.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

While Lance has struggled with injuries and his time in SF in terms of development, his pedigree is based on his draft selection makes him an upgrade over any backup QB Dallas has had in the Dak tenure and I agree this is JJ saying we now have a 23-year old former #3 overall draft pick that we can develop in 2023 in time for the 2024 Dak negotiations.
While some say Dallas has zero leverage, I agree this is JJ developing leverage as he has put all the pieces in place for Dak to take this team to the NFCCG and possibly Super Bowl or it's time to move on from Dak.

he hopes Lance develops. Ryan Leaf was second pick in the draft, behind no other than Manning. he was an utter failure. Oakland drafted Russell. he was probably the biggest bust in any draft history. so its not unprecedented for top QBs to turnout to be garbage. QBs often get over drafted. so far lance has shown he is not NFL ready. injuries or no injuries, he is struggling really bad. the hope is for all of us, that a change of scenary and fresh start would do him some good. all the pressure is on Lance.

and I agree, JJ is developing leverage as he had no other choice. he hadn't drafted a QB high, to develop, so his only choice was to do what's avaialble. I think its a good move. low cost. low risk. high reward.

 

[blueblood70]

Solidifying the defense by extending Diggs, the raise Martin received, trading for Lance, today's extension of Steele and the incoming extension of Lamb is all being done as part of a strategic roster construction so that when Dak and the front office negotiate a new deal, the front office is going to be able to say we've given you all these key pieces for success, now it's time that you work with us.

Plus, the front office is going to let them know they can not budge with Micah needing an extension as soon as next year.

Dak got the max deal last time around.

Now it's time for him to take a team friendly deal for a Superbowl run.

If not, then it will be best for both parties to go their separate ways.

Hopefully a team friendly extension is worked out with Dak.

You guys read way too much into stuff like this the Trey Lance trade now it's all the contracts are somehow giving leverage over dak I don't think so it's the market each time these quarterbacks keep getting more and more money I mean even Patrick mahomes had his deal recently redone if you weren't paying attention and he had a nice long 10 year deal that didn't last long did it??

I hope Prescott sees the big picture and doesn't ask for money that say Lamar Jackson just got or what Joe Burrows is about to get and sees what Tom Brady did towards the end of his career to help the team out I hope he does that but I promise you none of this stuff that that front office is doing is gonna give leverage to them against Jack if he decides to say no I want top money I want top guarantees that he's either gonna get it from the Cowboys or somebody else trust me I think the fans think Prescott is average and is overpaid but the league is hemorrhaging and desperate for top ten starting quarterbacks and there's a team out there that will go pay him.. So we may end up having to trade the guy but one way or the other I don't think any of these moves are for leverage against Prescott it may be something you can go to the bargaining table and say hey we're trying to really win a championship here and if you can help us out a little because we've helped you out..

 

[Adreme]

The new NFL rule allows 2players to be designated as post-June 1st cuts and Dallas does in fact 'save' money by releasing Dak in 2024 as a post-June 1st cut: his cap hit for 2024 is $59M with $61M in dead money that would be spread out, according to Over the Cap, over 3 years with dead money hits in 2024 & 2025 of $25M and $11M in 2026....so $59M (Dak's 2024 cap hit) minus $25M (Dak's dead money hit for 2024) 'saves' Dallas $34M against the 2024 cap....which while not being used towards free agents per say can be used towards extensions for Lamb and Parsons should Dallas choose to go that way.

While Dallas doesn't 'save' the $61M and you are correct that it gets spread out, it does actually 'save' them money in 2024 and 2025.

Oh, and the threat is that Dak has $0 guaranteed money remaining on his deal with 2 voidable years (2025 & 2026) with a $5M roster bonus due March 21st so JJ could play the difficult businessman and actually pay Dak his $5M roster bonus on March 21, 2024 and wait until actually June 1st to designate Dak a post-June 1st release designated player, well after both free agency has begun and the NFL draft has taken place thereby leaving very few teams in need of a QB.

Again you are not actually saving money with that tactic. You are adding 30m in cap for one year but after June1 you are not going to be using it so you added cap space for nothing. So Dak will still get a pay raise, the team will get a bunch of cap it cannot use, and you probably make it much harder to negotiate with other players when you are now seen as someone who negotiates in bad faith. Basically there is not a single positive to doing it that and it gives you zero leverage.

The kicker to all of this though is that even if you were to spread out the 60m in dead cap, if Trey Lance is anything but a massive downgrade at QB, after 2024 you would have to pay him which means you still saved nothing in cap space.

 

[Adreme]

I'm not an expert on this so can you please explain to me why he couldn't be tagged?

Its in his contract that he cannot be tagged or traded but even if he could be with it being his 3rd tag it would be very expensive to do so even if you could.

 

[glimmerman]

They will extend Dak. You don’t want to absorb that kind of money on the cap while putting all that money out signing pieces together to win now. And let Dak go and have Lance take over. They will work something out.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

Dak didn't go 12-5 as he missed 5 games, much like he missed 1 game in 2021 and 11-1/2 games in 2020....and the playoffs saw Dak play poorly in both losses to SF in 2021 and 2022....lastly, Dak led the league in INT's in spite of missing 5 games (some would say that is playing poorly and faltering).

Funny you say I am cherry picking yet you cherry pick the TB playoff performance while ignoring the crap games against SF that the TB game was in between.

Dak didnt play poorly in 21' vs the 49ers. The offense couldnt run the ball, the defense couldnt stop the run, and the team had 14 penalties. Those are facts not opinions.

You are cherry picking when you single out one players performance, especially when the entire team wasnt playing well.

 

[KingCorcoran]

It is a win win for Dallas. If they renegotiate Dak and get him at a team friendly deal.. it is a win. If Trey also develops....you can trade him for a haul potentially.

If Dak is unreasonable or flames out in a playoff game.. in a year or two(likely 2), you can trade him for a haul and move on.

If he’s worth a haul why trade him? The other 31 teams will have a similar evaluation of Dak Prescott. Well, 30 teams, San Francisco obviously has difficulty accurately evaluating quarterback talent. The Cowboys can only trade him to the team he allows Jerry to trade him to. That alone reduces his trade value. There will be no “haul”. And I’m sure Prescott’s representation will advise him to simply become a free agent and allow the entire league to bid on his services as opposed to only a team he designates. Jerry trades him only with Dak’s expressed consent. Jerry has zero leverage here and the irony is he agreed to it.