Those dudes weren't just BPAs, they were BPAs by a mile.
Do teams run consensus schemes? Are teams all looking for the same players at each position? When you answer both those questions with the true answer, you will understand why internet consensus rankings are meaningless to an individual team who has scouted and ranked every player according to their specific wants and needs. They know all the medicals and red flags. They know all their plans and options at each position. They have looked years down the road at cap hits and other various issues they may face at each position. They know what veterans are available and what salaries they want. They know all the trade talks they have had. You know none of these things. All you know is this player has this number next to his name so he would have been a better pick. Then you do that at each draft slot and think it makes you smarter than the people actually earning a living doing it. By your standards, Jerry should fire all the scouts, save all that money, and just watch the draft show and see who the consensus best available players are. If he always picked a player from that list, guys like you would proclaim it the best draft ever and every pick was the biggest steal of the draft!
The worst part is they fit needs too. It’s not like a draft BPA then figure it out type deal.
Scheme, Injuries, player contracts, etc of course all that stuff factors in.
I don’t mind the first pic I question the schooner pic. Now if the fifth pic becomes a solid player by next year i’ll be good with the second pick. I take into consideration we didn’t get a selection until 26 but I’ll see how it works out
Slotted by who? Oh yeah, people like you who know nothing about the team's plan for the offense. You are taking nothing into account except a number next to a name and think that makes you a football scout. Ridiculous!
People like me, or draft analysts, or people that are paid and do it for a living.
Reddick and Kiper stated Torrence is a RG only. Heavy feet, very limited lateral movement and getting to the second level. Built for a power rushing offense. Guessing Cowboys didn't see the fit. Time will tell. If he is only a RG...he's not beating out Martin for a few years...lol.
None of which has even 10% of the necessary information to make an informed decision for a specific team. Suppose they had a deal worked out to trade for an OL or had a deal in place to sign one after the draft? Wouldn't that kind of information be helpful when picking which player to draft? Of course, which is why numbers next to names put there by less than fully informed individuals means nothing.
I can't find it either. If someone stumbles across it please post it.
But but but he had a lower number next to his name and was on the best available list for 4 hours on Friday so everyone in the draft room has to be stupid for not drafting him.
Of course - so if we trade for a G I’ll just go to the next guy that was 50+ slots higher than Schoon.
It's interesting that Adebawore fell so much from where draft experts had him. It may be a situation where the gurus fell in love with his measurables while the scouts questioned his ability to produce.
Actually just went and read his scouting report. Um, no thanks at all! Too many weaknesses and only a good fit for specific teams that just want size. Would much rather take an athletic OT and slide him inside.
Ade is basically a much better version of Sehoko. He had 27 run stops last year so he gives + run defense immediately.
My question when it comes to the guards is was he 50 slots higher because it was a weak guard class or because he was perceived to be 50 slots better. In other words, when there are four of five tight ends considered better than you because it's a strong class, it pushes down your value. When you are the best or second-best in a weak guard class, it pushes up your value. Players aren't graded in a vacuum. Value is relative to what's available. Fewer good guards being available in this draft drives up the value of those who are. More good tight ends being available drives down the value of those who are.
The rankings are based on comparison to peers in this class and don’t seem to factor in positional value much.
I prefer position-specific comparisons. For example, the player comparison that interests me compared to our first-rounder is Bryan Bresee. It's not apples to apples because Mazi is probably a 1-tech while Bresee is a 3-tech, but we can certainly see whose career turns out better.
Yes, but some positions also carry higher value. Teams are much more likely to draft DEs early than TEs even of comparable value, so the DEs are generally going to be rated higher than the TEs., especially in a heavier class.
