Reducing Romo's turnovers has not equaled more wins

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Coast2Coast27;3147932 said:
Teams that lose the turnover battle lose 80 percent of the time. Romo is doing what it takes to win. when are you people going to realize we have one of the best qbs in the history of the game? If this team wants to win they need to do two things ok..

1. On defense get off the field on third down.
2. On offense stop the penalties that's been stalling drives all season.

It's actually more like 60% of the time. But it's 80% of the time in the playoffs.

I'm all for Romo protecting the ball the way he has this year for the most part. I'm not all for Garrett's playcalling which uses way too much shotgun, doesn't use all 3 tailbacks effectively, and often forgets to run the ball.




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craig71;3148162 said:
I had to make the run/pass only crowd happy........:cool:


Craig

I don't think that "Crowd," exists. The ones that cried for the run was because we were only passing and now the ones that cry for the pass is because we were only running. Eventually we will do both with a balance or a 60/40 split in either direction and we'll start winning again...
 

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Coast2Coast27;3147932 said:
Teams that lose the turnover battle lose 80 percent of the time. Romo is doing what it takes to win. when are you people going to realize we have one of the best qbs in the history of the game? If this team wants to win they need to do two things ok..

1. On defense get off the field on third down.
2. On offense stop the penalties that's been stalling drives all season.

I agree with you 100%. A bunch of the other stuff we like to talk about wouldn't seem as important if we did the two things you listed. The other problems would go away.
 

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dbair1967;3148223 said:
two one dimensional offenses met in the super bowl last yr

They still mixed in the run. 60/40, try again...
 

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InmanRoshi;3147970 said:
Plus finishing 4th in the NFL in penalties.

There's a reason why we are among the league leaders in total yards but have so few points. We're easy to defend against. Pull the safeties deep. Don't let Austin behind you. Don't give up the big play. Let Dallas have to score through a prolonged drive. They may string a few plays together, but eventually they'll fumble, committ a stupid penalty, miss a blocking assignment, drop a 3rd down conversion and kill the drive before they get points out of it (and if you hold them to a field goal attempt, you've held them to nothing because the kicker can't make a field goal).

In summary, they don't have the discipline or attention to detail to keep from shooting themselves in the foot.
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The only real complaint I have with Romo's play the past two games is he hasn't been clutch in the 4th quarter of either game. We were two scores down to the Giants and used most of the clock trying to score our final TD. We only had time left for an onside kick and hail mary. It was the same thing against the Chargers when we were two scores down. With time running down Romo kept throwing short screens and hitting the perimeter with only a minute left. Sometimes you have to take a chance down field in that situation. When we finally scored there was only a couple of seconds left. The Cowboys are just not a very explosive team. When we've shown some explosiveness with big plays down the field and punt returns for scores we were rolling. The Saints were in serious trouble against the Commanders a couple of weeks ago and Brees hit them with a big play in the last minute and a half to send that game into OT. This is why the Saints are such a great team they're explosive and they find the endzone ALOT.
 

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KJJ;3147915 said:
This "Romo Friendly" offense has cut Romo's turnovers almost in half this season compared to last season but the Cowboys currently have the same 8-5 record they had last year at this time. The reason our record is the same is because even though Romo isn't turning the ball over as much he isn't attacking as much down the field and as a result we're not scoring as many TD's. Add Folks missed FG's to the equation and you have less scoring. The Saints have scored 59 TD's compared to the Cowboys 35 TD's. Romo's turnovers are down but also are his TD passes. The Cowboys are obviously trying to protect Romo from turning the ball over but this has hurt his aggressiveness and our scoring. We're not seeing as many big scoring plays because our receivers aren't getting alot of separation and Romo fears making mistakes throwing into tight coverage. This team lacks quick strike ability that the top teams possess. The Cowboys were at their best winning 4 straight games when Romo was hitting Austin on big plays. The Cowboys keep shooting themselves in the foot with too many dumb penalties to control the ball on the ground plus Barber keeps getting little to nothing on first down.

Romo is trying to be careful with the ball by making short high percentage throws. Barber is fading because he's being misused. He was gaining more yards in 07 as a backup than he has as a starter. The Cowboys need to get a clue! Barber can't bulldoze defenders like he use to. Two years ago no one could keep him out of the endzone from a yard out now he gets knocked backwards on 3 straight carries from the one. In his prior role from 05 to 07 he scored 29 TD's now he's down to 11 TD's the past two seasons as a starter. Our WR's are still having trouble getting separation which has added to Romo's apprehension to throw passes over 6 yards. Dink and dunk! Hurd is a wasted roster spot having caught only 6 passes all season. Crayton has only produced 5 catches the past 4 games. This team needs some speed on the outside to help take some pressure off Austin and RW isn't that guy. Ogletree made a couple of nice plays against Philly and hasn't been seen since at WR. He's the fastest receiver on the team and the Cowboys need to shake things up because this team is not far from being on life support.

With the exception of a couple of players, Romo is surrounded by scrubs. You give Romo a half-decent o-line and a receiving core not made up of late round picks and UDFAs, he would be more prolific.


Put some talent around the guy instead of scrubs, that is my point.
 

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Real1st;3148158 said:
They have been stinking in the redzone lately..

Penalties still are a problem for this team.

Romo's had some problems with redzone picks during his career and we tend to get more conservative down there.
 

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Beast_from_East;3148485 said:
With the exception of a couple of players, Romo is surrounded by scrubs. You give Romo a half-decent o-line and a receiving core not made up of late round picks and UDFAs, he would be more prolific.


Put some talent around the guy instead of scrubs, that is my point.

We definitely need a stud receiver with speed opposite Austin to help open things up. We need to move Felix Jones in as the starter to give us a homerun threat in the backfield and if the Cowboys don't feel like he's the guy they need to draft one who they feel is. I have a feeling Choice will be traded during the offseason for a #2 or #3 pick. The Cowboys will no doubt get plenty of offers for Felix and Choice. Our backfield is just too crowded and we need to parlay one of those backs for player who's going to be on the field for more than 6 plays. We also need to address the Oline.
 

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the problem is the o line and the secondary, fix both ofthem and you have a team
 

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STSINAZ;3148993 said:
the problem is the o line and the secondary, fix both ofthem and you have a team

The Cowboys won't have a team until Jerry Jones hires a real head coach instead of these spineless uninspiring puppets he loves having control over.
 

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Doomsday101;3147942 said:
22 TD and 7 ints and people complain about it? Add to that 3 of those 7 ints came in week 2. He has thrown for 3,574 yards which is 9 yards less that Phillip Rivers. I really do not get it, Romo has shown some very good improvement in his play. Yes the team is 8-5 but the key word is team, Romo can only do so much.
I don't think people are blaming Romo. A lot of people thought if Romo cut his turnovers down, then we would win more games. That's obviously not true. The question is why.
 

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Cover 2;3149895 said:
I don't think people are blaming Romo. A lot of people thought if Romo cut his turnovers down, then we would win more games. That's obviously not true. The question is why.

I think alot where placing it on Romo from fans here to the media who loved throwing up the stats of Romo failure in Dec. and pointing directly at him. Not saying you did but yes there have been many and some even in the media right now even though others will stand up and point out that Romo is putting up numbers with the best of them right now.
 

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Romo taking more chances means more turnovers. Fact. And I doubt that we would score more points then we would have turnovers. A 3-1 TD to Pic ratio is a great season. And Romo does have very good talent to throw to; not the best in the league but better then the last few SB winners have had. Last year in the SB who had the stud WRs- Arizona. Who lost? Arizona.
Year before the Pats had Moss and Welker and were burning it up. Who won the SB? Not them.
 

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Doomsday101;3149901 said:
I think alot where placing it on Romo from fans here to the media who loved throwing up the stats of Romo failure in Dec. and pointing directly at him. Not saying you did but yes there have been many and some even in the media right now even though others will stand up and point out that Romo is putting up numbers with the best of them right now.
It's hard to make the argument that Romo is causing us to lose this December so far. 5 TD's 0 INT's are not hurting the team. I'm just starting to think the team is mentally weak, and that's why they're losing. I thought the team would be fine after the offseason purge, but apparently I was wrong.
 

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wileedog;3147939 said:
I think it has more to do with being tied for 2nd to last in all of the NFL with 16 takeaways.

Take a look how many NO has.

This post is spot on. Most offenses have several opportunities per season to work on a short field and that increases their TD percentages. Our defense cannot force enough turnovers because our DBs cannot catch passes to save their life. This makes the offensive numbers less than what they should be in terms of points. Romo isn't the issue here.
 

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Cover 2;3149922 said:
It's hard to make the argument that Romo is causing us to lose this December so far. 5 TD's 0 INT's are not hurting the team. I'm just starting to think the team is mentally weak, and that's why they're losing. I thought the team would be fine after the offseason purge, but apparently I was wrong.

I don't think it is a foregone conclusion this season will end as last year’s did.

I hate that we lost these past 2 games but I still like being in a position where we do control our fate. I don't think this team has quit and as far as mentally weak I think there is something to that in that when they have to make the critical play to change the game they have failed to do it in the last 2 games, only way to change that is by going out and making the plays. Easier said than done but once you get over that hump it becomes a bit easier to keep it going

Personally I think things can change quickly in the NFL I have watched the game long enough to know how quick things can go from bad to good within a season.
 

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...because the coaches don't understand that Felix Jones should and can be the x factor.

The "X factor" needs to be a dominant player, and he can't be if he doesn't get the rock 15-20 times a game, not including passes.
 
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