Refs Admit Mistake(s)... Found on ESPNDallas and not ESPN

[The30YardSlant]

Now admit to the hands to the face miscall.We were heavily favored to win hence everyone puts money on us. Refs blow game vegas wins. Parity continues in the WWE,NFL. The New Orleans Saints are rebuilding the city thanks to the NFL. NFL is a big monopoly. Ala Walmart.

Just stop, there is no conspiracy

 

[AmericasTeam31]

His knee may have went down but I agree, you could not conclusively convince me that he was touched before his knee come back up off the ground! I thought for sure that play was gonna stand...

 

[cowboyjoe]

Whether a play is reviewable or not, don't the officials have the option of changing a call that they know is bad? The implication is that they knew that Felix was down by contact, but since it isn't reviewable, they didn't review it. Why not just change it to the correct call since they knew it was wrong?

because the refs dont want to mention or admit they made a mistake, only after the game is over do they man up and admit a huge mistake;

thats just trying to cover up what you blew the call on by not doing your job;

 

[The30YardSlant]

HIS KNEEE WAS NOT DOWN AT THAT TIME PERIOD!

His knee was down before that and was back up by the time McBriar hit him.

Yes it was, I rewatched it on TIVO several times in HD. His knee is down, and it isnt close.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

HIS KNEEE WAS NOT DOWN AT THAT TIME PERIOD!

His knee was down before that and was back up by the time McBriar hit him.

Can't we get some of those good HD pictures of this play like we did with the McNabb play all of last week?!!!!

 

[cowboyjoe]

Like I said in another post. I know we played like crap but I still can complain about 2 totally blown calls.

more than 2 blown calls
remember the helmet to helmet hit on tony romo and not called, but when one of our defenders hits a player, he gets called

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Stop blaming the refs. Green Bay kicked our butts and made it look easy.

The fact that the Cowboys showed up flat and uninspired does not get the refs off the hook, and from start to finish they were affecting this game,,, not just the big highlighted gaffs but the constant holding the Packer OL was getting away with. This game was a freaking abomination and I wouldn't be quick to say the refs were merely incompetent.

Oh, and don't tell me what to do

 

[aikemirv]

Yes it was, I rewatched it on TIVO several times in HD. His knee is down, and it isnt close.

I got TIVO too and his knee was not on the ground at that time!

His knee was down but not when McBriar hit him.

Like I said, this aint college football.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I got TIVO too and his knee was not on the ground at that time!

His knee was down but not when McBriar hit him.

Like I said, this aint college football.

I don't know what to tell you, I'm looking right at it as I type this. Mcbriar's hand is on the ball, and his knee is on the ground

 

[The30YardSlant]

http://img4.*************/img4/2020/ch21sunnov152009055022p.jpg

Touches the ball, knee is down, play is dead. Notice how he is also contacting the returner's forearm and hand.

 

[aikemirv]

I don't know what to tell you, I'm looking right at it as I type this. Mcbriar's hand is on the ball, and his knee is on the ground

I don't have the technology to get TIVO to computer. Someone on here does so I hope they will put it up!

 

[aikemirv]

http://img4.*************/img4/2020/ch21sunnov152009055022p.jpg

Touches the ball, knee is down, play is dead. Notice how he is also contacting the returner's forearm and hand.

Ok, you got me. I will always admit when I am wrong. I never saw that view last night.

 

[TheCount]

I got TIVO too and his knee was not on the ground at that time!

His knee was down but not when McBriar hit him.

Like I said, this aint college football.

He was down, sorry. During the game they showed plenty of clear replays to the fact.

 

[juck]

We're about to tred into truly politically incorrect waters. You won't hear any sports "journalist" theorize about this; nor any of the yahooies and yuppies who pay exhorbitant amounts of money to wave inane signs, bare their chests in freezing weather, and turn to fisticuffs when "their" team is challenged; so we'll say it for them: NFL games are fixed. Because we aren't part of the fix, and thus can't know specifically how the outcomes of games are determined in advance, we will concentrate on the most notable participants in the fix- the game officials. NFL officials are part-timers who enjoy lucrative full-time careers in other fields.
They are the most incompetent bunch imaginable; blowing call after crucial call, determining the outcome of games with a drop of their precious yellow flags, while the league grants them immunity from all criticism. Their performance over the years should have earned them the wrath of all "journalists" and "analysts" who cover NFL contests, but invariably it will be determined, during the "analysis" of various games, that the officials do a "good job" and are "actually right 99% of the time." NFL officials utilize two primary penalites which they enforce at their discretion to control the ebb and flow of each game. All "journalists" and ex- players will admit that "holding could be called on every play," and yet they never question why it is called at specific times and not at others. Pass interference is the other favorite of all officials; cited, on a wildly inconsistent basis, at important points in each contest to benefit one team and handicap the other. Like holding, there is no set standard for a pass interference infraction, with terms like "incidental contact" and speculation about whether the ball was "catchable" bandied about to keep the moronic masses distracted. Back in the 1960's, ex-Cleveland Brown defensive back Bernie Parrish wrote an excellent book entitled "They Call It A Game." In the book, he matter of factly stated, without any elaboration, that he personally had participated in many fixed games during his NFL career. He also made some interesting observations about how NFL executives purposely pick black players over white players in the high rounds of the draft, on the premise that they will be easier to negotiate with (i.e., not intelligent enough to demand more money). About a decade ago, ex-NFL defensive lineman-turned actor Bubba Smith publicly stated that Super Bowl III had been fixed. He mentioned how many times the Colts had driven down the field, only to bog down suspiciously. He brought back memories of one of the most curious plays ever; the flea- flicker call in which quarterback Earl Morrall held the ball for several seconds while a wide-open Jimmy Orr waved his arms in vain downfield. Smith's statments caused a brief furor, but it quickly subsided and no more mention was made of the subject. A few years back, NFL wide reciever Irving Fryar publicly admitted being part of an effort to throw the big college championship game between Nebraska and the University of Miami. His comments about being paid to throw a game did nothing to harm his image or his NFL career, and there was absolutely no critical examination of what he'd admitted to and what it meant to the integrity of at least that particular NCAA college football season. There have always been "chosen" teams: Vince Lombardi's Green Bay Packers in the 1960's (anyone recall Don Chandler's winning "field goal" over the Baltimore Colts, which clearly sailed wide of the uprights?); Miami, Dallas, Oakland and Pittsburgh in the 1970's; the 49ers and Commanders of the 1980s; Jimmy Johnson's Cowboys and the Broncos in the 1990's. Game commentators and other sports "journalists" will willingly admit that the better teams receive the "benefit of the doubt" from game officials. Think about that; how could that be true, if the games were honestly officiated? It's probably true that at least some players willingly participated in the "fix" during their careers, but really no player involvement is necessary. The game officials are perfectly capable, as they prove each week, of determining the outcome of each game themselves. When the NFL allowed Instant Replay several years ago, the extent of official corruption became evident very quickly. How many times did fans endure five minute delays while those in the replay booth deliberated on something any drunk fan could have accurately ruled on within fifteen seconds? In a few instances, bad calls were reversed, but all too often those in the replay booth proved just as unwilling to honestly officiate the games as those on the field. Now Instant Replay is back, in a ridiculous *******ized form, which is sure to fail and be discarded. The idea ought to be getting each call right in every instance, so that human error plays no part in the outcome of any contest. Unfortunately, the league devised a convoluted system whereby each coach has two "challenges" and if, as will undoubtedly happen, the replay officials still make the wrong call, they will be charged with a timeout. Needless to say, in such a system such challenges will not occur as often as they should. Take our advice and watch each game from the official's standpoint; if you can find any consistency in how the penalties are enforced, we'd love to have you document it and send it to us. Until then, cringe each time that yellow flags falls to the ground, because it plays a more important role in the festivities than the strategy of the coaches and the skill of the players.​

 

[aikemirv]

He was down, sorry. During the game they showed plenty of clear replays to the fact.

See above post!

 

[The30YardSlant]

Ok, you got me. I will always admit when I am wrong. I never saw that view last night.

We're all human

 

[DallasEast]

We're about to tred into truly politically incorrect waters. You won't hear any sports "journalist" theorize about this; nor any of the yahooies and yuppies who pay exhorbitant amounts of money to wave inane signs, bare their chests in freezing weather, and turn to fisticuffs when "their" team is challenged; so we'll say it for them: NFL games are fixed. Because we aren't part of the fix, and thus can't know specifically how the outcomes of games are determined in advance, we will concentrate on the most notable participants in the fix- the game officials. NFL officials are part-timers who enjoy lucrative full-time careers in other fields. [/COLOR]


They are the most incompetent bunch imaginable; blowing call after crucial call, determining the outcome of games with a drop of their precious yellow flags, while the league grants them immunity from all criticism. Their performance over the years should have earned them the wrath of all "journalists" and "analysts" who cover NFL contests, but invariably it will be determined, during the "analysis" of various games, that the officials do a "good job" and are "actually right 99% of the time." NFL officials utilize two primary penalites which they enforce at their discretion to control the ebb and flow of each game. All "journalists" and ex- players will admit that "holding could be called on every play," and yet they never question why it is called at specific times and not at others. Pass interference is the other favorite of all officials; cited, on a wildly inconsistent basis, at important points in each contest to benefit one team and handicap the other. Like holding, there is no set standard for a pass interference infraction, with terms like "incidental contact" and speculation about whether the ball was "catchable" bandied about to keep the moronic masses distracted. Back in the 1960's, ex-Cleveland Brown defensive back Bernie Parrish wrote an excellent book entitled "They Call It A Game." In the book, he matter of factly stated, without any elaboration, that he personally had participated in many fixed games during his NFL career. He also made some interesting observations about how NFL executives purposely pick black players over white players in the high rounds of the draft, on the premise that they will be easier to negotiate with (i.e., not intelligent enough to demand more money). About a decade ago, ex-NFL defensive lineman-turned actor Bubba Smith publicly stated that Super Bowl III had been fixed. He mentioned how many times the Colts had driven down the field, only to bog down suspiciously. He brought back memories of one of the most curious plays ever; the flea- flicker call in which quarterback Earl Morrall held the ball for several seconds while a wide-open Jimmy Orr waved his arms in vain downfield. Smith's statments caused a brief furor, but it quickly subsided and no more mention was made of the subject. A few years back, NFL wide reciever Irving Fryar publicly admitted being part of an effort to throw the big college championship game between Nebraska and the University of Miami. His comments about being paid to throw a game did nothing to harm his image or his NFL career, and there was absolutely no critical examination of what he'd admitted to and what it meant to the integrity of at least that particular NCAA college football season. There have always been "chosen" teams: Vince Lombardi's Green Bay Packers in the 1960's (anyone recall Don Chandler's winning "field goal" over the Baltimore Colts, which clearly sailed wide of the uprights?); Miami, Dallas, Oakland and Pittsburgh in the 1970's; the 49ers and Commanders of the 1980s; Jimmy Johnson's Cowboys and the Broncos in the 1990's. Game commentators and other sports "journalists" will willingly admit that the better teams receive the "benefit of the doubt" from game officials. Think about that; how could that be true, if the games were honestly officiated? It's probably true that at least some players willingly participated in the "fix" during their careers, but really no player involvement is necessary. The game officials are perfectly capable, as they prove each week, of determining the outcome of each game themselves. When the NFL allowed Instant Replay several years ago, the extent of official corruption became evident very quickly. How many times did fans endure five minute delays while those in the replay booth deliberated on something any drunk fan could have accurately ruled on within fifteen seconds? In a few instances, bad calls were reversed, but all too often those in the replay booth proved just as unwilling to honestly officiate the games as those on the field. Now Instant Replay is back, in a ridiculous *******ized form, which is sure to fail and be discarded. The idea ought to be getting each call right in every instance, so that human error plays no part in the outcome of any contest. Unfortunately, the league devised a convoluted system whereby each coach has two "challenges" and if, as will undoubtedly happen, the replay officials still make the wrong call, they will be charged with a timeout. Needless to say, in such a system such challenges will not occur as often as they should. Take our advice and watch each game from the official's standpoint; if you can find any consistency in how the penalties are enforced, we'd love to have you document it and send it to us. Until then, cringe each time that yellow flags falls to the ground, because it plays a more important role in the festivities than the strategy of the coaches and the skill of the players.​

AAAGGGGHHHH! I may be BLINDED for LIFE!!!11!!1!

 

[SultanOfSix]

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones says he understands why the rule doesn't allow for review of possession of fumbles, but that there should be room for exceptions.
"I know why they have it because so many times there are piles and scrums so it gets really hard to see," Jones said. "But that wasn't a play out in the middle of the field where you'd have a scrum."

This is the key point. This is the difference between the "spirit" of the rule (or law) and interpreting it correctly, and sticking to the "word" of the rule (or law).

The point of instant replay is to get the correct call, in the spirit of fair play. Defining things to be reviewable or not is supposed to be subsumed under the process of getting the right call. In this case, it CLEARLY was not.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Ok, you got me. I will always admit when I am wrong. I never saw that view last night.

It was a ruled a fumble. That's not conclusive at all. You can't even tell that his hand is on him or the ball from that picture.

 

[AbeBeta]

Ok, you got me. I will always admit when I am wrong. I never saw that view last night.

they showed that exact angle like a 100 times