Refs Admit Mistake(s)... Found on ESPNDallas and not ESPN

[TheMarathonContinues]

Stop blaming the refs. Green Bay kicked our butts and made it look easy.

3-0 all the way into the 4th quarter is a hell of a *** whooping they gave us. That 3-0 lead sure looked real easy. :bang2:


I do agree that the refs aren't to blame but they definitely screwed up.

 

[SharutoX]

Officiating around the whole league has been terrible

 

[TheCount]

3-0 all the way into the 4th quarter is a hell of a *** whooping they gave us. That 3-0 lead sure looked real easy. :bang2:


I do agree that the refs aren't to blame but they definitely screwed up.

Our offense was impotent the entire game, the D didn't get their butts kicked but the O definitely got served.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Ok, you got me. I will always admit when I am wrong. I never saw that view last night.

i saw that one, wasnt a blown call,

what gets me though, they viewed that play, but they wouldnt view the felix fumble

 

[The30YardSlant]

3-0 all the way into the 4th quarter is a hell of a *** whooping they gave us. That 3-0 lead sure looked real easy. :bang2:


I do agree that the refs aren't to blame but they definitely screwed up.

Outside of our opening drive and RW fumble, we didnt have anything that even remotely resembled a potential scoring drive

 

[aquavita]

http://img4.*************/img4/2020/ch21sunnov152009055022p.jpg

Touches the ball, knee is down, play is dead. Notice how he is also contacting the returner's forearm and hand.

sorry, you're wrong. According to the NFL's own rules, evidence must be unquestionable to overturn a call. It was ruled a fumble on the field, and that picture you show doesn't show me a single thing. The runners knee came up off the ground the split second after that shot (BEFORE he was ever touched by a defensive player), and at THAT point, is when mcbriar knocks the ball loose.

It was a blown call, and there is no getting around that.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

sorry, you're wrong. According to the NFL's own rules, evidence must be unquestionable to overturn a call. It was ruled a fumble on the field, and that picture you show doesn't show me a single thing. The runners knee came up off the ground the split second after that shot (BEFORE he was ever touched by a defensive player), and at THAT point, is when mcbriar knocks the ball loose.

It was a blown call, and there is no getting around that.

I really think that this call is in they eye of the beholder... IOW I don't think it is as absolutely a fumble as some may think, but it's also not as absolutely down by contact as some may think... INCONCLUSIVE VIDEO EVIDENCE. CALL STANDS!

 

[The30YardSlant]

sorry, you're wrong. According to the NFL's own rules, evidence must be unquestionable to overturn a call

That's fine

The correct call was made, regardless of whether or not the evidence was "conclusive" (which is clearly is to anyone who isnt completely blinded by bias)

 

[CowboysFan02]

http://img4.*************/img4/2020/ch21sunnov152009055022p.jpg

Touches the ball, knee is down, play is dead. Notice how he is also contacting the returner's forearm and hand.

I honestly don't think it was conclusive enough to overturn with this angle since you cannot positively say when contact was made. A composite shot from the side and this shot would be definitive and if I remember correctly(wouldn't be the first time if I was wrong) but don't the refs see(can see) a composite shot? With that said if McBriar was touching him or the ball wouldn't his hand be bent backwards and not straight as it appears to be?

Oh and so I don't get labeled as someone who blames the refs, had the team(more so the offense) played better and more focused they could have overcome some bad calls and a bad replay rule.

 

[Doomsday101]

When the play 1st happened I thought fumble watching replay I think the guy was down by contact. I would have loved nothing more than to see the call remain as it was called on the field but in my honest opinion I think the returner was down by contact before the ball came loose.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

That's fine

The correct call was made, regardless of whether or not the evidence was "conclusive" (which is clearly is to anyone who isnt completely blinded by bias)

Must be alot of bias in here then, because you seem to be the only one who feels that this was absolutely conclusive!

If that is the only angle they show, there is NO WAY you can DEFINITIVELY say that he was down by contact at a certain time. Look up the definition of conclusive...

 

[The30YardSlant]

Must be alot of bias in here then, because you seem to be the only one who feels that this was absolutely conclusive!

This is a COWBOYS board. Of course there is bias towards a call that went against us.

If that is the only angle they show, there is NO WAY you can DEFINITIVELY say that he was down by contact at a certain time. Look up the definition of conclusive...

There really, really is. Imagine yourself as a fan of a team other than Dallas or GB, look at that picture and tell me that you can't tell whether or not he is being touched.

If you still say you can't then you're being dishonest with yourself.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

This is a COWBOYS board. Of course there is bias towards a call that went against us.



There really, really is. Imagine yourself as a fan of a team other than Dallas or GB, look at that picture and tell me that you can't tell whether or not he is being touched.

If you still say you can't then you're being dishonest with yourself.

It has nothing to do with being a fan. The officials are not supposed to be fans. They are "unbiased". Therefore you think that the replay "removed all possible doubt" that he fumbled? You cannot say that when you cannot see McBriars hand and the ball at the same time. His hand hides the ball, therefore an arguement can always be made that you cannot tell when the player was contacted or when the ball comes loose. Without another angle you can not remove all doubt of that fact.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

http://img4.*************/img4/2020/ch21sunnov152009055022p.jpg

Touches the ball, knee is down, play is dead. Notice how he is also contacting the returner's forearm and hand.

Good job. He was down, it was the right call and I agree that we shouldn't be blaming the refs even though we got jerked around by the officials.

We were flat yesterday and GB wasn't.

 

[The30YardSlant]

It has nothing to do with being a fan. The officials are not supposed to be fans. They are "unbiased". Therefore you think that the replay "removed all possible doubt" that he fumbled? You cannot say that when you cannot see McBriars hand and the ball at the same time. His hand hides the ball, therefore an arguement can always be made that you cannot tell when the player was contacted or when the ball comes loose. Without another angle you can not remove all doubt of that fact.

I also can't remove all doubt as to whether or not we landed on the moon, and there thousands who think it was a hoax

That doesnt mean that those who think it was made shouldnt be looked down upon and thought of as morons

 

[AmericasTeam31]

I also can't remove all doubt as to whether or not we landed on the moon, and there thousands who think it was a hoax

That doesnt mean that those who think it was made shouldnt be looked down upon and thought of as morons

I'm not debating whether it was or wasn't a fumble. I'm debating whether or not the replays showed conclusive evidence to overturn the original call. If that is the only angle they looked at, then I'd have to say there wasn't. Maybe it's different seeing it in motion, I don't know, I don't have DVR... but from the still pictures, I'd say there is not enough there to overturn it.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I'm not debating whether it was or wasn't a fumble. I'm debating whether or not the replays showed conclusive evidence to overturn the original call. If that is the only angle they looked at, then I'd have to say there wasn't. Maybe it's different seeing it in motion, I don't know, I don't have DVR... but from the still pictures, I'd say there is not enough there to overturn it.

If that isnt "inconclusive evidence" then nothing is and the challenge system is pointless

 

[Randy White]

I wonder how much wins does "I'm sorry" give us.

NFL needs fulltime refs not fans reffing.

My confusion about the loss is quickly turning into anger.

Me too, toad.

IN college, a play can be corrected by officials when it's being reviewed even if the original intent wasn't there.

Why officials in the NFL are not allowed to do the same it's beyond comprehension.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Our offense was impotent the entire game, the D didn't get their butts kicked but the O definitely got served.

I agree. But I wouldn't say the Packers kicked our *** all game. We had chances. Roy's fumble. Austins drops. Romo overthrowing Bennett. I felt we left some points on that board. Proven by the fact we both had the almost the same amount of yards. Props to the Packers. They needed the win and played like it. But I felt the Cowboys left some points on that field.

 

[Randy White]

HIS KNEEE WAS NOT DOWN AT THAT TIME PERIOD!

His knee was down before that and was back up by the time McBriar hit him.

That's what I saw too, but I thought I was imagining things. He goes down on his left knee, picks it up ( I'm guessing to dive for an extra yard or so ), then came McBriar's hand hitting the ball before his right knee hits the ground.