And I totally disagree. DLaw is not a small dude and for him to not be able to turn toward Murray when the grab happens, that was a significant grab and push. Also OL is not allowed to push the defender from the back which he clearly does on this play.
Go watch it in slow mo and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
OF COURSE the video makes it look less blatant than the still shot you posted because a video actually depicts what happened.
A still shot provides no context.
Do you know Cardinal fans really tried claiming Santonio Holmes didn’t have two feet inbounds on that crucial touchdown in the Super Bowl. And guess what they tried showing as proof? A still shot (see below).
Problem was, just a few frames before the actual proof was there in plain sight (see below).
Yes, and again, for the 10th time, my question is WHAT do you think Jones' hand was doing on his shoulder pad? You actually still haven't answered. Was it just resting there? Was it grazing his shoulder pad? Or was he possibly gripping a hold of his jersey/pad?
His hand was there as part of his block he was making. Was it grabbing? Yes. But he's allowed to grab as part of his blocking so long as he doesn't "materially restrict or alter the defender’s path or angle of pursuit." He blocked, Lawrence did a rip move and put the OL in that side position (that's why the exception exists). His hand was still on the shoulder and after kicking Lawrence out wide as Lawrence turned, let go. You can pretend the Schultz hold doesn't exist all you want but it shows the huge difference in degrees of restriction and how much less restriction was on Lawrence. That's why one was a hold and the other wasn't.
Yeah, sorry, but the OL is allowed to kick him out wide, which he did when Lawrence used his rip move which again affords an exception to holding even if it looks like holding (see the rule). It was not a push (or block "from behind" as the rule states). His hand on the shoulder was on him the whole time and let go once Lawrence turned the corner. The other hand did press on Lawrence's back but again, put in that position due to Lawrence's rip move. This was clearly not material restriction. Again, compare to Schultz. Night and day. No one addresses it.
Material restriction is, apparently, in the eye of the beholder.
If you agree that Lawrence was grabbed, then the only real question left is what constitutes a material restriction.
The play in this video (coincidentally, Cory Proctor - I believe) is a similar "material restriction" to what Lawrence appeared to experience here. Set aside the much more blatant tug of the jersey in this clip, but the point is the material restriction of the pass rusher's path to the quarterback is the same. "It takes a step away from the defender in pursuing the quarterback."
Olinemen’s hand is clearly on DLaws back. And a push from the back isn’t allowed.
Also, DLaw’s whole right shoulder jerks when the grab and push happens. Unless that Olineman has super humans hand strength,there’s no way you can jerk back a 270LB person running full speed without a significant grab. It is clear that grab and push affected and materially restricted the pursuit.
Yep. I was screaming to my son "that's a safety" Not looking forward to the NFL playoffs. I "guarantee" it'll be some horrible calls coming from the worst refs in any sports followed by the NBA......
Two refs staring at a blatant hold (more blatant than ours) in the endzone...safety.
What angers me is he didn’t need to. A simple block and Elliot is gone anyways..THIS is a hold.
They were held all night but that was 2 points. Add it with the missed FG. Or the missed fumble call at the end. Don’t get me wrong we played vanilla D all day and just let our front 4 go but never went man coverage and took away the middle. They ate us all day with an little hold and gave him time to dump it off in the middle. Frustrating.That was one of several holds I saw. I'm not someone that notices that either. Has to be blatant.
I saw Demarcus complaining to the refs after that but they never showed a replay and Buck and Aikman never commented.....they were too busy praising Murray.
Fair is calling holding penalties fairly throughout the course of the game.
Do you understand or do I need to break it down more?
Yeah, sorry, but the OL is allowed to kick him out wide, which he did when Lawrence used his rip move which again affords an exception to holding even if it looks like holding (see the rule). It was not a push (or block "from behind" as the rule states). His hand on the shoulder was on him the whole time and let go once Lawrence turned the corner. The other hand did press on Lawrence's back but again, put in that position due to Lawrence's rip move. This was clearly not material restriction. Again, compare to Schultz. Night and day. No one addresses it.
I'm not sure who you're talking about but I probably have them on ignore which would support your post, lol.I can’t believe you all argue with that idiot over this call. It’s very clear. The dude is pulling his jersey and or his pad even after DLAW Is 4ft passed him, but he didn’t impede him. Think how stupid that sounds.
He gets off on arguing this type of stuff because he’s a sicko.
Kinda like Ramseys exaggerated flailing against Gallup last season in the first game? Seemed to work for him. Cost us the game.I really some fans are getting duped by D-Law’s exaggerated flailing trying to get the holding call. This happens on almost every snap across the league. Imagine if one our offensive linemen got called for a “hold” like this in the endzone. These same people would crying and lamenting that it wasn’t a hold. This doesn’t even pass the barstool test.