Replay Timing

Why was their not a commercial break during change of possession???
Who knows. They should it after Philly was well into their TD drive. That used to happen under Garrett a lot. I always thought Jason was risk adverse but it turns out he wasnt provided with video footage for challenges.
 
It is no mystery that Fox and the NFL are in bed with sports books and gambling. One has to wonder if this plays a role in situations like the tipped punt?

So the network has the cameras, control over replay timing and camera angles, and puts tools like Mike Pereira in the booth to sway decisions on officiating. This is like the fox watching the hen house.



https://www.foxnews.com/sports/sports-betting-on-fox-sports.amp
 
It is no mystery that Fox and the NFL are in bed with sports books and gambling. One has to wonder if this plays a role in situations like the tipped punt?

So the network has the cameras, control over replay timing and camera angles, and puts tools like Mike Pereira in the booth to sway decisions on officiating. This is like the fox watching the hen house.



https://www.foxnews.com/sports/sports-betting-on-fox-sports.amp
Amen! This is exactly what I think is happening and can be avoided.
 
I try to never blame a league-wide conspiracy (involving hundreds of people) for referee behavior when simple incompetence is usually the answer.
 
BTW, if the league and refs are crooked, then why can't Jerry grease a few palms so we can get to the SB? It's not like that would be below him or anything.
 
It’s well known that home stadiums and arenas in all sports do this with the Jumbotron. They will hold off on showing any replay if showing it might encourage officials or coaches to check out the video above before a challenge.

A lesser scale than a network conspiracy, but sure, gamesmanship is always at play.

I’m always reminddd of the snowplow game, which was a straight up classic home field advantage.
It has happened to Dallas twice. Once for, once against.

A replay was shown for a very questionable hit out of bounds by a Dallas player. I can't remember who they were playing. Refs did not call it. The play was shown, and the refs got together and called it. It is something that should not be allowed.
For replays yes, all teams do it. But for a penalty, the refs screwed Dallas. That team went on to get a TD, when the should have punted.

At Jerry world. Remember the coin flip. And supposedly Dak screwed up and did not use the word defer. The refs screwed that up.
So the rams were to kick the opening KO and the 2nd half KO.
The stadium showed the replay and that Dak actually did use the word defer. So the refs changed it, and Dallas got the KO in the 2nd half. Actually I think NY told them to change it.
 
I try to never blame a league-wide conspiracy (involving hundreds of people) for referee behavior when simple incompetence is usually the answer.
Yea. Me either. But I’ve watched enough football to know plenty of people that watch football hate the cowboys. As much as I hate to admit it refs are people too.

Bias is real. It happens. Maybe not even necessarily conscientiously.

That's what I think explains the ultra rare and unique calls that have happened to the Cowboys over the years and most have never happened to any other team. Yet they all happened to one team.

The fact they all happened to one is odd.
(Think illegal huddle, delay of game D-law for shifting normally , false start on long snapper, fake tripping calls (Fred). Etc. etc etc
 
It’s well known that home stadiums and arenas in all sports do this with the Jumbotron. They will hold off on showing any replay if showing it might encourage officials or coaches to check out the video above before a challenge.

A lesser scale than a network conspiracy, but sure, gamesmanship is always at play.

I’m always reminddd of the snowplow game, which was a straight up classic home field advantage.
I go to a decent number of games in home and away games and there is NO DOUBT that stadiums do this. Im sitting there waiting and waiting for a replay and nope, not until the next play or not at all. But if there team has a close play against them, you canbet that replay goe 5 or 6 times before the next play.

I dont think the networks do it on purpose, like the stadiums, but it definitely happens on the networks, just not by design.
 
It has happened to Dallas twice. Once for, once against.

A replay was shown for a very questionable hit out of bounds by a Dallas player. I can't remember who they were playing. Refs did not call it. The play was shown, and the refs got together and called it. It is something that should not be allowed.
For replays yes, all teams do it. But for a penalty, the refs screwed Dallas. That team went on to get a TD, when the should have punted.

At Jerry world. Remember the coin flip. And supposedly Dak screwed up and did not use the word defer. The refs screwed that up.
So the rams were to kick the opening KO and the 2nd half KO.
The stadium showed the replay and that Dak actually did use the word defer. So the refs changed it, and Dallas got the KO in the 2nd half. Actually I think NY told them to change it.
Who is the Wizard Of Oz in New York though? There is plenty of bias, incompetence, and reason for crooked behavior all in one. Now gambling is wide open in the NFL and yet there is zero accountability for this person behind the curtain that controls the officiating.
 
I mentioned this in the game thread. It seems as if FOX deliberately doesn't show replays, like the tipped punt for example. When Schotty was asked why he didnt challenge it, he said they didnt have a clear video. I learned today that the NFL relies on the broadcast to get their footage for reviews. Now I know this sounds crazy but, this seems like a way that a network can somewhat influence the game as well as a way to help ratings. Theres no way the NFL should be relying on a TV network for their video review. Not sure why this isnt beign talked about more. I know for a fact that if I worked for a TV network, none of the teams I hate would ever see a review till much later in the game as well.
I go back to the Giants game earlier this year.

Dak threw an "interception" that was barely replayed. I noticed it on the one replay they offered but the ball clearly rolls up and out of his arms and gets trapped between his body and turf. Should have been overturned.

I don't think it was properly reviewed because of the limited discussion and replay provided by the telecast.

The telecast dictates the game so much, from the language they use to the replays they offer. And, IMO, it seems to never favor us.
 
I go back to the Giants game earlier this year.

Dak threw an "interception" that was barely replayed. I noticed it on the one replay they offered but the ball clearly rolls up and out of his arms and gets trapped between his body and turf. Should have been overturned.

I don't think it was properly reviewed because of the limited discussion and replay provided by the telecast.

The telecast dictates the game so much, from the language they use to the replays they offer. And, IMO, it seems to never favor us.
So the telecast has a sports book, controls the cameras, and puts retired officials as commentators that chime in on close calls to help sway decisions.
 
Who is the Wizard Of Oz in New York though? There is plenty of bias, incompetence, and reason for crooked behavior all in one. Now gambling is wide open in the NFL and yet there is zero accountability for this person behind the curtain that controls the officiating.
They have review officials in NY and can call to the refs on the field to change something, or have them look at it. That can go over the review people at the stadium.
 
I mentioned this in the game thread. It seems as if FOX deliberately doesn't show replays, like the tipped punt for example. When Schotty was asked why he didnt challenge it, he said they didnt have a clear video. I learned today that the NFL relies on the broadcast to get their footage for reviews. Now I know this sounds crazy but, this seems like a way that a network can somewhat influence the game as well as a way to help ratings. Theres no way the NFL should be relying on a TV network for their video review. Not sure why this isnt beign talked about more. I know for a fact that if I worked for a TV network, none of the teams I hate would ever see a review till much later in the game as well.
Crazier conspiracy theories have been brought up here so you never know like the clock operator for the Green Bay game i'm still questioning that that's the longest frozen 1 second I've ever seen in my entire lifetime we're not all stupid something purposely was done to make sure they can kick that field goal and they shouldn't have had the chance And that should be able to be reviewed as well like somebody with a real watch go back on the review and see if the clock ran for actually only one second if it ran for three seconds game over you should be able to challenge that too..


Back to reality brian Schottenheimer is still wrong he should have listened to his player he should have trusted him and he should have threw the red flag anyway It was a big moment in the game that gave them a new fresh set of downs and a lot of yards you have to throw the red flag regardless if you're not sure or not just throw the damn thing that's what it's there for That was a bad decision to not throw it regardless of what video you didn't or didn't have your player vehemently said it hit my fingers I think he would not say that if it didn't hit his fingers And later we saw it literally hit his fingers you can see his fingers shaking after the ball hit it..
 
I mentioned this in the game thread. It seems as if FOX deliberately doesn't show replays, like the tipped punt for example. When Schotty was asked why he didnt challenge it, he said they didnt have a clear video. I learned today that the NFL relies on the broadcast to get their footage for reviews. Now I know this sounds crazy but, this seems like a way that a network can somewhat influence the game as well as a way to help ratings. Theres no way the NFL should be relying on a TV network for their video review. Not sure why this isnt beign talked about more. I know for a fact that if I worked for a TV network, none of the teams I hate would ever see a review till much later in the game as well.
Yeah but that's still ridiculous though if you think about it it doesn't matter if Fox and whoever was doing the broadcast control the actual replay on the field what happened to Real time New York is watching how did New York not see that and call it down and tell him to review it are they not having a separate feed should they not be seen key plays in real time that they can call him because I've seen other ones why in this game isn't any different and if that is the truth if Fox did this on purpose or they're that incompetent They should be fine for that because you can't do that this is people's real lives at stake as coaches players contracts I mean you can't have Biased officials anymore you can have biased networks..
 
I mentioned this in the game thread. It seems as if FOX deliberately doesn't show replays, like the tipped punt for example. When Schotty was asked why he didnt challenge it, he said they didnt have a clear video. I learned today that the NFL relies on the broadcast to get their footage for reviews. Now I know this sounds crazy but, this seems like a way that a network can somewhat influence the game as well as a way to help ratings. Theres no way the NFL should be relying on a TV network for their video review. Not sure why this isnt beign talked about more. I know for a fact that if I worked for a TV network, none of the teams I hate would ever see a review till much later in the game as well.
Just remember the enchanted blown up view was done till later if BS challenges it that view would have been available. So it’s on BS not trusting the player who told them he tipped it. No conspiracy no hidden agenda no network problem especially when the guy who tells BS to challenge didn’t see it either in the replays
 
Yeah but that's still ridiculous though if you think about it it doesn't matter if Fox and whoever was doing the broadcast control the actual replay on the field what happened to Real time New York is watching how did New York not see that and call it down and tell him to review it are they not having a separate feed should they not be seen key plays in real time that they can call him because I've seen other ones why in this game isn't any different and if that is the truth if Fox did this on purpose or they're that incompetent They should be fine for that because you can't do that this is people's real lives at stake as coaches players contracts I mean you can't have Biased officials anymore you can have biased networks..
You folks are bonkers, let’s make the game 5 hours and review each play for penalties, it’s almost like you folks have never seen a game.
 
I mentioned this in the game thread. It seems as if FOX deliberately doesn't show replays, like the tipped punt for example. When Schotty was asked why he didnt challenge it, he said they didnt have a clear video. I learned today that the NFL relies on the broadcast to get their footage for reviews. Now I know this sounds crazy but, this seems like a way that a network can somewhat influence the game as well as a way to help ratings. Theres no way the NFL should be relying on a TV network for their video review. Not sure why this isnt beign talked about more. I know for a fact that if I worked for a TV network, none of the teams I hate would ever see a review till much later in the game as well.
I agree, after the play was over the Cowboy player kept indicating that he tipped the ball but nothing was done about it, when the Eagle started their series was when a clear replay was shown on TV that the tip occurred! What a freaking joke!!!
 
You folks are bonkers, let’s make the game 5 hours and review each play for penalties, it’s almost like you folks have never seen a game.
That's the actual opposite of what I said or what that's for they're doing the real live viewing in New York watching the same game we're watching and they have a button to push and it rings right down to the referee on the field and says you should review that There's nothing making that longer than a coach throwing the red flag actually that even takes longer..

So don't be saying you folks are bonkers to me i'm saying this new rule was put in place to avoid these things to make the coaches make a decision when they don't have enough information New York should have easily saw that they should have a better look at it in real time watching the same game we do in the broadcast that's why we're blaming the broadcast if they didn't give the proper replay then the coach and New York didn't have enough information that's it it's all saying.

Agreed with you above I think that when Ryan went over and said I hit it I hit it the coach should immediately threw the red flag he should not argue he should have trusted his player I get it but we're talking about the network not properly displaying the replay so the game could be played the way it was designed the replays were designed in the game to utilize so it's fair that was a big play at the moment luck need the Cowboys were able to make a comeback but that doesn't change the fact that it could have been the game sealing play and you can't have that...

Literally have replay so the games could be fair in those types of moments not for everything else there's a lot of things that we can let go but this is one of them so that's what we're talking about the network not properly for whatever reason showing the replay so that way everyone can make a decision but New York should have been much quicker at seeing that and just buzzing down that they should replay it without the red flags you're not wasting the red flags,,

But explain to me oh wise one how that take any more time if you said that the coach should have trusted to play and he threw the red flag any different than if New York got to see this right kind of you and if our coach saw the right view he called the red flag the game stopped either way so I don't see your point at all we're talking about keeping things legitimately fair and that was a big missed play..

That's it that's what we're talking about we're not talking about ticky tack Gray area that is a massive bad call to call that roughing the kicker when the man tipped the ball it should have been replayed it should have been got right it wasn't that's all we're doing right now it would not extended the game because the coach would have thrown the red flag anyway there would have been break anyway talk about getting the **** **** broadcast done right..
 
You folks are bonkers, let’s make the game 5 hours and review each play for penalties, it’s almost like you folks have never seen a game.
That's not what we're talking about we're talking about did New York do this on purpose or not but they're liable for showing the proper broadcast and the proper play so it can be replay one way or the other they would have stopped the game whether Brian would have listened to Brian and threw the red flag or whether they got a better look at it he threw the red flag or whether New York would have called down and got it right it would have been a stoppage in place so your theory is wrong we're not trying to make the game longer we're trying to keep it fair and legitimate and whether that was accidental or not it was something that needs to be fixed because replay is part of our game and if they are egregious and negligent for not showing the right broadcast everyone can at least take a quick look at it before the next play and throw the red flag That's what we're talking about because you're saying that he should have thrown the red flag listening to the player then it would have been a stoppage anyway I still don't understand what your point is we're all in agreement they should have stopped the damn play and reviewed it and it would not have gone down the way it did they would have had to punt the ball or I don't even remember the play did the recover it I mean what happened either way it would have been a flag it would have been Cowboys ball and we were talking about this stupid play if Fox got it right in the first place is the debate not making the game longer..
 

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