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Wasn't it JJT that wrote an article after the Eagles signed that piece of **** saying the Cowboys would regret not signing him?:lmao:
 

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jackrussell;3443946 said:
How about providing us with a Vick 'win' situation.

Sorry, many of us who blasted Vick for his cruel ways also said a big part of his activities created a culture of no good in which not just dogs, but people are in harm's way.

It appears we were right on with that...and our detractors have learned nothing.

You ever stop to think why this guy even shows up to Vick's party? You don't know who shot him why he was shot. You just know he got into an argument with Vick because he was at Vick's party when he shouldn't of been then he got shot when Vick wasn't around......If you want to say Vick should of locked himself into his closest instead of going out when some friends to celebrate his 30th birthday that's something totally different. however, when it's X athlete + trouble you guys are always quick to throw the player under the bus.
 

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DaBoys4Life;3443950 said:
You ever stop to think why this guy even shows up to Vick's party? You don't know who shot him why he was shot. You just know he got into an argument with Vick because he was at Vick's party when he shouldn't of been then he got shot when Vick wasn't around......If you want to say Vick should of locked himself into his closest instead of going out when some friends to celebrate his 30th birthday that's something totally different. however, when it's X athlete + trouble you guys are always quick to throw the player under the bus.

I'm not hanging out with anyone that may/may not get me shot or shot at, or hanging out with anyone that's going to put me in undesirable circumstances by whipping out a pistol and shooting at an uninvited guest, no matter how dumb the party crasher is.

There are two ways to deal with a party crasher:

1. at a public club, ask the staff or bouncers to escort him out of your event since he was uninvited. They will be happy to oblige. Plenty of times when partying with friends in VIP sections, etc. we've returned from the restroom to find people sitting on our couches or hanging around our tables. We simply asked the bouncers to remove them.

2. at a private party, call the police. Tell them you have a trespasser and he refuses to leave. They will come and escort them off of your property or to jail, dependent on the way that they handle themselves when the fuzz shows up.

Pulling out a pistol and peeling a couple caps is in no shape, way, form, or fashion the right way to go about this.

EDIT: Michael Vick is of no interest to Virginia Beach Police in this case, according to reports. However, he's not supposed to associate with anyone from dog fighting a few years back, and one of his co-defendants was the gunshot victim.
 

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DaBoys4Life;3443926 said:
So vick has a party. A guy shows up uninvited. Get's shot. Vick is at fault.....If Vick would of party with the guy and it gets leaked you guys would say he's a scumbag for still hanging with the dude.......Vick can win with you guys...

Right on cue, DaBoys rushes to his hero's defense...

I think you should apply for a position in his posse, hoss...

Let me make this simple for you, so that you might actually be able to comprehend it:

Only an IDIOT throws himself a birthday party at a night club less than a year after getting out of prison... such an event is likely to attract all manner of unsavory characters, including other convicted felons...

IOW, Vick's actions created the dynamics that led to this shooting, therefore he has some responsibility... this is doubly true if the shooter turns out to be one of his current crew, thinking he was doing Mike a favor...
 

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DaBoys4Life;3443950 said:
You ever stop to think why this guy even shows up to Vick's party?

You ever stop to think why Vick threw the party in the first place?? It was in a night club, therefore it was NOT an invitation-only affair... a night club is a public place...


You don't know who shot him why he was shot.

Odds are, he was shot because he got into an argument with Vick, by one of Vick's crew who thought he was doing him a favor...

If you want to say Vick should of locked himself into his closest instead of going out when some friends to celebrate his 30th birthday that's something totally different.

If you're a convicted felon less than a year out of jail, then going to places where unsavory types are likely to show up is pretty freakin' stupid... if you're a convicted felon less than a year out of jail and you have ANY common sense at all, you're gonna keep a low profile...

Which means if you have to have a birthday party, you do it at your place, and you make it invitation only, and you provide a little security to ensure that fellow felons don't get in...


however, when it's X athlete + trouble you guys are always quick to throw the player under the bus.

And you're always quick to defend the Michael Vicks of the world...
 

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DaBoys4Life;3443950 said:
You ever stop to think why this guy even shows up to Vick's party? You don't know who shot him why he was shot. You just know he got into an argument with Vick because he was at Vick's party when he shouldn't of been then he got shot when Vick wasn't around......If you want to say Vick should of locked himself into his closest instead of going out when some friends to celebrate his 30th birthday that's something totally different. however, when it's X athlete + trouble you guys are always quick to throw the player under the bus.

Again, show me a Vick 'win' situation.

You say he can never win with us...show me something he has done that would qualify as a win.

Waiting..............................................................
 

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cowboyjoe;3443715 said:
Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 25, 2010 1:41 PM ET
The news that a man was shot at a 30th birthday party for Eagles quarterback Michael Vick has taken a twist, with reports that Quanis Phillips, one of the co-defendants in the infamous dog fighting case that landed Vick in prison, was the victim in the shooting, and that he was shot after a confrontation with Vick.

The Daily Press of Hampton Roads, Virginia reports that a spokesman for Sentara Virginia Beach General Hospital confirmed that Phillips was admitted early this morning and was listed in good condition.

A spokesman for Virginia Beach police said the shooting occurred around 2:10 a.m. after a fight broke out at the club where Vick was having a birthday party, just as the club was closing.

According to Daily Press reporter David Squires, Phillips showed up to the party even though Vick is not supposed to be associating with any of his dog fighting co-defendants.

Squires writes that there was a confrontation between Phillips and Vick inside the party, that the confrontation then moved outside, and that's when Phillips was shot.

Vick's lawyer, Larry Woodward, says Vick was not involved and was not present when the shooting occurred.

According to the Daily Press report, there were witnesses who "don't want it to be known if they were witnesses." Police say the victim and witnesses were uncooperative.

In 2004, Vick was present when Phillips allegedly stole a Rolex watch from an airport X-ray belt.
One other factoid about this situation. No where in the OP article does it say that Q was uninvited it says he "showed up" but it DOES NOT say uninvited. For all we know Vick did invite him thinking that the authorities would never find out. The assumption has been made that the guy was a party crasher but he may well have been invited. If so then it is double bad for Vick.
 

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casmith07;3443978 said:
I'm not hanging out with anyone that may/may not get me shot or shot at, or hanging out with anyone that's going to put me in undesirable circumstances by whipping out a pistol and shooting at an uninvited guest, no matter how dumb the party crasher is.

There are two ways to deal with a party crasher:

1. at a public club, ask the staff or bouncers to escort him out of your event since he was uninvited. They will be happy to oblige. Plenty of times when partying with friends in VIP sections, etc. we've returned from the restroom to find people sitting on our couches or hanging around our tables. We simply asked the bouncers to remove them.

2. at a private party, call the police. Tell them you have a trespasser and he refuses to leave. They will come and escort them off of your property or to jail, dependent on the way that they handle themselves when the fuzz shows up.

Pulling out a pistol and peeling a couple caps is in no shape, way, form, or fashion the right way to go about this.

EDIT: Michael Vick is of no interest to Virginia Beach Police in this case, according to reports. However, he's not supposed to associate with anyone from dog fighting a few years back, and one of his co-defendants was the gunshot victim.

I'll agree with you on this. You guys are making it seems as though Vick ordered the shooting. Vick wanted the guy shot and that Vick had something to do with the shooting...A guy gets shoot a night club that knew Vick at Vick's party after a fight. That's all.

Right on cue, DaBoys rushes to his hero's defense...

He's not my hero.

I think you should apply for a position in his posse, hoss...

If it pays I'll apply.

Let me make this simple for you, so that you might actually be able to comprehend it:

Only an IDIOT throws himself a birthday party at a night club less than a year after getting out of prison... such an event is likely to attract all manner of unsavory characters, including other convicted felons...

So he should just live at a monastery I see man. I don't think it's idiotic for the man If he can celebrate the day he was brought on this earth then what does he have?

IOW, Vick's actions created the dynamics that led to this shooting, therefore he has some responsibility... this is doubly true if the shooter turns out to be one of his current crew, thinking he was doing Mike a favor...

The dude that showed up and started the fight caused himself to get shot. Not Vick, I don't see how this man can not be responsible for his own action and you put the blame all on Vick. He'll there's two maybe 3 people that's in the wrong on this. The guy who started the fight, the dude who shoot him and liquor. Just because people can't control themselves when they get drunk in by no means should Vick take the fall for someone else's stupidity.
You ever stop to think why Vick threw the party in the first place?? It was in a night club, therefore it was NOT an invitation-only affair... a night club is a public place...

Even if the club is public he can get a private part of the club and have his own party. Maybe because he didn't want some **** like this to happen at his house?


Odds are, he was shot because he got into an argument with Vick, by one of Vick's crew who thought he was doing him a favor...

If that's true then that's no fault of Vick's especially if he's not involved at all. This isn't the first club party to end in a shooting and it won't be the last.

If you're a convicted felon less than a year out of jail, then going to places where unsavory types are likely to show up is pretty freakin' stupid... if you're a convicted felon less than a year out of jail and you have ANY common sense at all, you're gonna keep a low profile...

He's one of the well known athletes in America. There's no such thing as a low profile. Once again if he can't have a night out with some friends on his bday when the hell is he going to?

Which means if you have to have a birthday party, you do it at your place, and you make it invitation only, and you provide a little security to ensure that fellow felons don't get in...

Yeah so something like that would happen at his house?

And you're always quick to defend the Michael Vicks of the world...

Somebody has to we can't condemn them all. Also incase you didn't know Roddy White was at the party also. Vick isn't involved in the shooting and I don't hear Roddy White name being thrown out there and being slammed.

jackrussell;3444042 said:
Again, show me a Vick 'win' situation.

You say he can never win with us...show me something he has done that would qualify as a win.

Waiting..............................................................

OBV the only way Vick can win to you guys if he lock his self in his closet.
 

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dude did his time. i doubt he searched all his party goers, so in my opinion unless proven differently one of his friends screwed him by pullin out and shooting. the way i interpret this is that the guy showed up, he was told he was unwanted by vick and most likely caused a scene on the way out, a fight broke out and then somone took it to the next level. the guy did some terrible things. But i am guessing none of you took the time to watch the show he had on tv and see some of the remorse he showed, which in my eyes seemed genuined. i am a pet owner and i hate the things he did, but i also believe in forgiveness if warranted, especially if the person has already served a harsh penalty, harsher then the average person would recieve i might add.
 

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sm0kie13;3444130 said:
dude did his time. i doubt he searched all his party goers, so in my opinion unless proven differently one of his friends screwed him by pullin out and shooting. the way i interpret this is that the guy showed up, he was told he was unwanted by vick and most likely caused a scene on the way out, a fight broke out and then somone took it to the next level. the guy did some terrible things. But i am guessing none of you took the time to watch the show he had on tv and see some of the remorse he showed, which in my eyes seemed genuined. i am a pet owner and i hate the things he did, but i also believe in forgiveness if warranted, especially if the person has already served a harsh penalty, harsher then the average person would recieve i might add.

Bottom line Smokie is that he committed a crime and he is now serving probation on that crime. Probation is in lieu of serving time, in other words while you are on probation, be thankful that you are not in prison and be more diligent, more diligent than someone NOT on probation. Act like you are in house arrest and don't go to nightclubs or anywhere else you might get in trouble, don't speed in your car, don't talk on your cell while driving, don't jaywalk.

Probation is a privilege that keeps you out of jail, don't do anything or put yourself anywhere that can put you in jeopardy, your fault or not, or losing that privilege.
 

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Jarv;3444134 said:
Bottom line Smokie is that he committed a crime and he is now serving probation on that crime. Probation is in lieu of serving time, in other words while you are on probation, be thankful that you are not in prison and be more diligent, more diligent than someone NOT on probation. Act like you are in house arrest and don't go to nightclubs or anywhere else you might get in trouble, don't speed in your car, don't talk on your cell while driving, don't jaywalk.

Probation is a privilege that keeps you out of jail, don't do anything or put yourself anywhere that can put you in jeopardy, your fault or not, or losing that privilege.

Thanks for the law lesson.
 

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Jarv;3444134 said:
Probation is in lieu of serving time

I understand what your saying. Dude doesnt have to be a saint tho. If he wants to go to a nightclub for a birthday party, so be it. If he knew the shooter, then he is gonna pay for that. If he didnt then i dont hold it against him. People have guns everywhere. Fights happen. Things escalate. If you dont agree with my opinion thats ok.
 

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Oh, by the way, Happy Birthday Vick!:lmao2:

Wouldn't bother me in the least if Goodell suspends Vick. Wouldn't bother me if the Eagles would then have to scramble to find a backup to Kolb.:)
 

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Unless proven otherwise, Vick did nothing wrong in this case, imo. He's in most people's crosshairs for what he was convicted for so B.O.T.D will never be his in most circles...those who think he's the antichrist will continue to think so and those who give him a pass (which I'm sure is a small percentile) will write this off as a mere coincidence...
 

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I will be shocked if Vicks plays in the NFL again after this. When he was allowed back in, the Comish said, he had no room for error whatsoever. Throwing a party in which somone gets shot, is an error. Its an error when the person being shot is a fellow felon and shouldn't be there in the first place. Now I agree with some that say Vick had every right to have a b day party, sure every one does. But its not about whether he had the right to do it or not, it is about how stupid it was for him to do it. He knows that his every move is being watched, he knows that he can not afford any mistakes, so whey put himself out there. From what they said on the Radio, he invited 300 people, that's just crazy stupid. I do not think the comish has any choice but to suspend him forever now. Hard to feel sorry for someone that is as stupid as vick.
 

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Real1st;3444191 said:
Vick doesn't have anything to do with it..
Vick's party. Vick's former associate. Vick in arguement with former associate. Former Vick associate shot.

Seems like Vick's name is all over it.
 
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