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Wasn't it JJT that wrote an article after the Eagles signed that piece of **** saying the Cowboys would regret not signing him?
jackrussell;3443946 said:How about providing us with a Vick 'win' situation.
Sorry, many of us who blasted Vick for his cruel ways also said a big part of his activities created a culture of no good in which not just dogs, but people are in harm's way.
It appears we were right on with that...and our detractors have learned nothing.
DaBoys4Life;3443950 said:You ever stop to think why this guy even shows up to Vick's party? You don't know who shot him why he was shot. You just know he got into an argument with Vick because he was at Vick's party when he shouldn't of been then he got shot when Vick wasn't around......If you want to say Vick should of locked himself into his closest instead of going out when some friends to celebrate his 30th birthday that's something totally different. however, when it's X athlete + trouble you guys are always quick to throw the player under the bus.
DaBoys4Life;3443926 said:So vick has a party. A guy shows up uninvited. Get's shot. Vick is at fault.....If Vick would of party with the guy and it gets leaked you guys would say he's a scumbag for still hanging with the dude.......Vick can win with you guys...
DaBoys4Life;3443950 said:You ever stop to think why this guy even shows up to Vick's party?
You don't know who shot him why he was shot.
If you want to say Vick should of locked himself into his closest instead of going out when some friends to celebrate his 30th birthday that's something totally different.
however, when it's X athlete + trouble you guys are always quick to throw the player under the bus.
DaBoys4Life;3443950 said:You ever stop to think why this guy even shows up to Vick's party? You don't know who shot him why he was shot. You just know he got into an argument with Vick because he was at Vick's party when he shouldn't of been then he got shot when Vick wasn't around......If you want to say Vick should of locked himself into his closest instead of going out when some friends to celebrate his 30th birthday that's something totally different. however, when it's X athlete + trouble you guys are always quick to throw the player under the bus.
One other factoid about this situation. No where in the OP article does it say that Q was uninvited it says he "showed up" but it DOES NOT say uninvited. For all we know Vick did invite him thinking that the authorities would never find out. The assumption has been made that the guy was a party crasher but he may well have been invited. If so then it is double bad for Vick.cowboyjoe;3443715 said:Report: Quanis Phillips was shot, after confrontation with Vick
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 25, 2010 1:41 PM ET
The news that a man was shot at a 30th birthday party for Eagles quarterback Michael Vick has taken a twist, with reports that Quanis Phillips, one of the co-defendants in the infamous dog fighting case that landed Vick in prison, was the victim in the shooting, and that he was shot after a confrontation with Vick.
The Daily Press of Hampton Roads, Virginia reports that a spokesman for Sentara Virginia Beach General Hospital confirmed that Phillips was admitted early this morning and was listed in good condition.
A spokesman for Virginia Beach police said the shooting occurred around 2:10 a.m. after a fight broke out at the club where Vick was having a birthday party, just as the club was closing.
According to Daily Press reporter David Squires, Phillips showed up to the party even though Vick is not supposed to be associating with any of his dog fighting co-defendants.
Squires writes that there was a confrontation between Phillips and Vick inside the party, that the confrontation then moved outside, and that's when Phillips was shot.
Vick's lawyer, Larry Woodward, says Vick was not involved and was not present when the shooting occurred.
According to the Daily Press report, there were witnesses who "don't want it to be known if they were witnesses." Police say the victim and witnesses were uncooperative.
In 2004, Vick was present when Phillips allegedly stole a Rolex watch from an airport X-ray belt.
casmith07;3443978 said:I'm not hanging out with anyone that may/may not get me shot or shot at, or hanging out with anyone that's going to put me in undesirable circumstances by whipping out a pistol and shooting at an uninvited guest, no matter how dumb the party crasher is.
There are two ways to deal with a party crasher:
1. at a public club, ask the staff or bouncers to escort him out of your event since he was uninvited. They will be happy to oblige. Plenty of times when partying with friends in VIP sections, etc. we've returned from the restroom to find people sitting on our couches or hanging around our tables. We simply asked the bouncers to remove them.
2. at a private party, call the police. Tell them you have a trespasser and he refuses to leave. They will come and escort them off of your property or to jail, dependent on the way that they handle themselves when the fuzz shows up.
Pulling out a pistol and peeling a couple caps is in no shape, way, form, or fashion the right way to go about this.
EDIT: Michael Vick is of no interest to Virginia Beach Police in this case, according to reports. However, he's not supposed to associate with anyone from dog fighting a few years back, and one of his co-defendants was the gunshot victim.
Right on cue, DaBoys rushes to his hero's defense...
I think you should apply for a position in his posse, hoss...
Let me make this simple for you, so that you might actually be able to comprehend it:
Only an IDIOT throws himself a birthday party at a night club less than a year after getting out of prison... such an event is likely to attract all manner of unsavory characters, including other convicted felons...
IOW, Vick's actions created the dynamics that led to this shooting, therefore he has some responsibility... this is doubly true if the shooter turns out to be one of his current crew, thinking he was doing Mike a favor...
You ever stop to think why Vick threw the party in the first place?? It was in a night club, therefore it was NOT an invitation-only affair... a night club is a public place...
Odds are, he was shot because he got into an argument with Vick, by one of Vick's crew who thought he was doing him a favor...
If you're a convicted felon less than a year out of jail, then going to places where unsavory types are likely to show up is pretty freakin' stupid... if you're a convicted felon less than a year out of jail and you have ANY common sense at all, you're gonna keep a low profile...
Which means if you have to have a birthday party, you do it at your place, and you make it invitation only, and you provide a little security to ensure that fellow felons don't get in...
And you're always quick to defend the Michael Vicks of the world...
jackrussell;3444042 said:Again, show me a Vick 'win' situation.
You say he can never win with us...show me something he has done that would qualify as a win.
Waiting..............................................................
sm0kie13;3444130 said:dude did his time. i doubt he searched all his party goers, so in my opinion unless proven differently one of his friends screwed him by pullin out and shooting. the way i interpret this is that the guy showed up, he was told he was unwanted by vick and most likely caused a scene on the way out, a fight broke out and then somone took it to the next level. the guy did some terrible things. But i am guessing none of you took the time to watch the show he had on tv and see some of the remorse he showed, which in my eyes seemed genuined. i am a pet owner and i hate the things he did, but i also believe in forgiveness if warranted, especially if the person has already served a harsh penalty, harsher then the average person would recieve i might add.
Jarv;3444134 said:Bottom line Smokie is that he committed a crime and he is now serving probation on that crime. Probation is in lieu of serving time, in other words while you are on probation, be thankful that you are not in prison and be more diligent, more diligent than someone NOT on probation. Act like you are in house arrest and don't go to nightclubs or anywhere else you might get in trouble, don't speed in your car, don't talk on your cell while driving, don't jaywalk.
Probation is a privilege that keeps you out of jail, don't do anything or put yourself anywhere that can put you in jeopardy, your fault or not, or losing that privilege.
sm0kie13;3444137 said:Thanks for the law lesson.
Jarv;3444134 said:Probation is in lieu of serving time
Vick's party. Vick's former associate. Vick in arguement with former associate. Former Vick associate shot.Real1st;3444191 said:Vick doesn't have anything to do with it..