Return of the Dak

Great post, JDay. Like you, I am cautiously optimistic.

Here's my twist on your post: addition by subtraction. Without Dez and a designated WR1, we will likely see a different and improved Dak. Without Derek Dooley and Matt Eberflaus, we may likely see better use of the WR's and better in-game adjustments to the defense (don't get me wrong, I like Eberflaus. I just think Kris Richard will be an upgrade).

Finally, let's not forget Dak and the commitment to improve and excel at every level of football he has played.
 
jday said:
Please note, this isn't necessarily directed at you because I know that is the narrative being parroted by the national media, but that statement is truly idiotic in my opinion.

Firstly, it assumes that Dez and Witten are good for those stats every year...not even remotely close to being true.

Second, it ignores that every play that occurs within a season, for the most part, is an island. When Dak drops back, he will simply throw to whomever is open. Those so-called lost stats will be found with every catch a receiver makes on every given play.

Lastly, to be honest, I suspect in the long run the loss of Dez and Witten will be viewed as true addition by subtraction. Dak won't feel the need to force it to Dez to keep his focus in the game. And balls that would have gone to Witten, will likely go to a player who can do a lot more damage with the ball in his hands.

Admittedly, alot of things will have to go right for the Cowboys for them to find success in the upcoming season, but their lack thereof in my opinion will not be due to not having Dez and Witten on the field.
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I think you are being a little naive...You can not dismiss the numbers walking out the door..And its my narrative not the homers who think its all going to be fine..

I hope it wont be shaky but to claim that much experience gone, and it wont affect the offense is a head scratcher..

I can think of many things that may be positive..Them leaving the team is not one of them..
 
Billyd said:
I think you are being a little naive...You can not dismiss the numbers walking out the door..And its my narrative not the homers who think its all going to be fine..

I hope it wont be shaky but to claim that much experience gone, and it wont affect the offense is a head scratcher..
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No disrespect intended to Witten and Dez, but what did the Cowboys accomplish during their careers?

It's not like we just saw a bunch of rings walk out the door, so what's the worst that could happen? We lose in the first round of the playoffs? We miss the playoffs entirely? We did both of those things as recently as the last two years, WITH Dez and Witten.
 
Billyd said:
I think you are being a little naive...You can not dismiss the numbers walking out the door..And its my narrative not the homers who think its all going to be fine..

I hope it wont be shaky but to claim that much experience gone, and it wont affect the offense is a head scratcher..

I can think of many things that may be positive..Them leaving the team is not one of them..
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Numbers neither walk or make use of doors.

It's really simple. Dak will throw to someone else. How is that hard to understand?
 
jday said:
Time is a fickle mistress; just when you need her the most she is not there. She steals your days and years while you are not watching. The only answer is to pay attention to her every moment of every day, only then you will never miss her.


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So, I'm back up in the game
Running things to keep my swing
Letting all the people know
That I'm back to run the show
Cause what you did you know was wrong
And all the nasty things you've done
So baby listen carefully
While I sing my comeback song.

~ Mack Morrison ~

What do you think we will see upon the Return of the Dak?
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A better chance than last year for sure. It looks like a new scheme is in place. The FO didn't go out of its way with such wide sweeping changes just to repeat the same futility, (I hope!) The big factor is injury and Dak's ability to git 'er done, change or not.
 
jday said:
Numbers neither walk or make use of doors.

It's really simple. Dak will throw to someone else. How is that hard to understand?
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Im not sure if you understand what veteran production is..I understand what you are saying, just not sure why you are so positive everything is wonderful, when 23 years of experience is leaving..

I believe this will be a good thing in the TE position because it should make the Cowboys Integrate the other tightends..But I dont see it being a not miss a step transaction..It almost never is..

Throw it to somebody else. THATS hilarious..

Three Wr are left on the team from last year...TWILL, BEASLEY, Noah Brown

PLAYER REC YDS YDS/REC LONG TDS

Terrance Williams 53 568 10.7 56 0
Cole Beasley. 36 314 8.7 54 4
Noah Brown 4 33 8.3 14 0
Geoff Swaim. 2 25 12.5 18 0

Now..Tell me how the cowboys are going to replace 1300 yards and 11tds between Dez And witten..Ill wait!
 
ColoCowboy said:
Great post, JDay. Like you, I am cautiously optimistic.

Here's my twist on your post: addition by subtraction. Without Dez and a designated WR1, we will likely see a different and improved Dak. Without Derek Dooley and Matt Eberflaus, we may likely see better use of the WR's and better in-game adjustments to the defense (don't get me wrong, I like Eberflaus. I just think Kris Richard will be an upgrade).

Finally, let's not forget Dak and the commitment to improve and excel at every level of football he has played.
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Whilst those words did not appear in the op, I've used "addition by subtraction" a couple of times.

It has occurred to me that the great influx of new assistant coaches might be more about getting fresh and new ideas in the room that can embrace and preach a scheme better suited to Dak's strengths.

I agree on Kris Richard. I suspect he is the DC in-waiting.

Regarding Dak and his capacity for greatness: https://cowboyszone.com/threads/ridakulous.379312/

In case you missed it...:thumbup:
 
I hope Dak gets right with ball, But he was right when the oline was solid, Elliot was busting arse and the Dcords in the Nfl didnt have much tape on him..

I Like Gallup, and i believe Maybe a combo platter of Hearns, Gallup, and Beasley, With a smattering of Other guys have a chance to at least provide some offense, if Conner is as good as stated, and smiths back doesnt explode...Again...

If LINEHAN doesnt get another case of the stupid and Gives Swaim and Rico a chance to get some production down the middle, It could get interesting..

These are positive, but it could just as easily melt in front of us..

Im hoping Richards helps the defense..But this teams identity is ball control offense, winning Top, and power running in the NFL..Maybe defense will come to the game this year, it wont make any difference if the offense doesnt regain form in a meaningful way..

That is the truth..
 
Billyd said:
Im not sure if you understand what veteran production is..I understand what you are saying, just not sure why you are so positive everything is wonderful, when 23 years of experience is leaving..

I believe this will be a good thing in the TE position because it should make the Cowboys Integrate the other tightends..But I dont see it being a not miss a step transaction..It almost never is..

Throw it to somebody else. THATS hilarious..

Three Wr are left on the team from last year...TWILL, BEASLEY, Noah Brown

PLAYER REC YDS YDS/REC LONG TDS

Terrance Williams 53 568 10.7 56 0
Cole Beasley. 36 314 8.7 54 4
Noah Brown 4 33 8.3 14 0
Geoff Swaim. 2 25 12.5 18 0

Now..Tell me how the cowboys are going to replace 1300 yards and 11tds between Dez And witten..Ill wait!
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You sir are clearly oblivious to the inherent ignorance of your argument. Not to worry though, I'll relieve you of this burden in short order.

The reason the latter receivers had less than stellar numbers is due to the fact that they played on the same team as the former receivers on a run-heavy team. So, again, instead of throwing to Witten/Dez, Dak will throw it to his new receivers. You are welcome. :grin:
 
jday said:
You sir are clearly oblivious to the inherent ignorance of your argument. Not to worry though, I'll relieve you of this burden in short order.

The reason the latter receivers had less than stellar numbers is due to the fact that they played on the same team as the former receivers on a run-heavy team. So, again, instead of throwing to Witten/Dez, Dak will throw it to his new receivers. You are welcome. :grin:
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Dak did fairly well his first year having been thrust into the limelight with new receivers (at least for him!)
And,... we don't have to make up for Dez's production... I would say he won't be missed.
 
Bro, i can tell you like writing your own text and looking at it. Dont be a buffoon by hiding behind the rah rah crap that explains nothing about how you think this team offensively moves forward..

Try answering a question for a change...All is not wonderful in Cowboy land, and hasnt been for along time..Im not Falling for your presentation at all..
 
Billyd said:
I hope Dak gets right with ball, But he was right when the oline was solid, Elliot was busting arse and the Dcords in the Nfl didnt have much tape on him..

I Like Gallup, and i believe Maybe a combo platter of Hearns, Gallup, and Beasley, With a smattering of Other guys have a chance to at least provide some offense, if Conner is as good as stated, and smiths back doesnt explode...Again...

If LINEHAN doesnt get another case of the stupid and Gives Swaim and Rico a chance to get some production down the middle, It could get interesting..

These are positive, but it could just as easily melt in front of us..

Im hoping Richards helps the defense..But this teams identity is ball control offense, winning Top, and power running in the NFL..Maybe defense will come to the game this year, it wont make any difference if the offense doesnt regain form in a meaningful way..

That is the truth..
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The more I consider it, the more I really like the potential. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I've seen Dak play well, especially with Zeke behind him. The offensive line improved and we have better insurance on Smith's back. And they specifically targeted good to great route runners, who are pretty consistent catching the ball, so it think to the offense will be fine. I am honestly more worried about the defense.
 
Pantone282C said:
Dak did fairly well his first year having been thrust into the limelight with new receivers (at least for him!)
And,... we don't have to make up for Dez's production... I would say he won't be missed.
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I was talking about both wittens and Dez production..So far nobody has enough guts to answer...

Pretty typical.
 
jday said:
The more I consider it, the more I really like the potential. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I've seen Dak play well, especially with Zeke behind him. The offensive line improved and we have better insurance on Smith's back. And they specifically target good to great route runners, who are pretty consistent catching the ball, so it think to the offense will be fine. I am honestly more worried about the defense.
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Beasley was suppressed, twill scored no tds, and Noah had five catchez last year, and the rest have not played a down in a Cowboys uniform..Conner as well..I think he will integrate in..Im sure the new ofensive line coach will handle up, but we havent seen anything yet...

Id allow a little reality..
 
Billyd said:
Bro, i can tell you like writing your own text and looking at it. Dont be a buffoon by hiding behind the rah rah crap that explains nothing about how you think this team offensively moves forward..

Try answering a question for a change...All is not wonderful in Cowboy land, and hasnt been for along time..Im not Falling for your presentation at all..
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I read my stuff endlessly so it is a good thing I have a talent for it...otherwise I would bore myself to sleep.

I understand how it may appear...but if you read closely, I am acknowledging all the potential pitfalls throughout the op.

Or have you not actually read it yet?
 
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