Rev. Al, Russell Simmons, PETA add their two cents on Vick...

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For Immediate Release:
July 18, 2007

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Dan Shannon 757-622-7382

This morning, all of Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick's corporate sponsors, Falcons CEO Arthur Blank, and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell received a joint letter from hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons, civil rights leader The Rev. Al Sharpton, and PETA President Ingrid E. Newkirk roundly condemning dogfighting and other forms of violence.

"The recent media spotlight on dogfighting reminds us of society's callous disregard for the suffering of animals and disrespect for sentient beings," they wrote in letters that arrived by FedEx this morning. "We hope that Mr. Vick is not a product of this insensitivity that runs through our society. ... It does us little good to prosecute just those who are famous and allow people across the country to continue to commit these hideous crimes. We are hopeful that authorities will take the appropriate action against anyone found guilty of an atrocity as serious as dogfighting ... . Today, we sound a clarion call to all people: Stand up for what is right, and speak out against what is wrong. Dogfighting is unacceptable. Hurting animals for human pleasure or gain is despicable. Cruelty is just plain wrong."

The statement comes on the heels of Michael Vick's indictment by a federal grand jury on a conspiracy charge related to his alleged involvement with dogfighting, including fatally hanging, drowning, and slamming against the ground dogs who "did not perform well." The indictment follows an April 25 raid on Vick's property in Surry County, Va., during which authorities reportedly found 70 dogs--including at least 60 pit bulls, the breed that is most commonly used for fighting--and paraphernalia commonly associated with dogfighting. Some of the animals reportedly had deep wounds and cuts consistent with fighting.

The Simmons, Sharpton, and PETA letters went to all of Vick's corporate sponsors, including Nike, Rawlings, Hasbro, Coca-Cola, Easton Sports, and Kraft.

"Anyone capable of forcing dogs to fight to the death should be kept away from all vulnerable forms of life, particularly children and animals," says Newkirk. "Dogfighting is an illegal act that deserves harsh punishment, no matter how famous the alleged perpetrators are."

The letter to Michael Vick's sponsors can be viewed at:

http://blog.peta.org/archives/Michael_Vick_letter.pdf
 

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The Sharpton thing is funny b/c another poster railed against him yesterday with regards to how Al would come out to defend Vick at any moment.
 

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The NFL may not officially act until there's a verdict, but I'm guessing his sponsers won't be quite so hesitant.
 
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Anyone who writes a joint letter with PETA has to be an idiot...

even, though, in this case, they are correct...
 

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Their letter goes to show the volume of "public opinion". Vick hasn't been found guilty, and yet, few of the nationally well known figures are sending a letter to Vick's sponsors as if they want the sponsors to cut ties with Vick, very interesting.
 

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bobtheflob;1554593 said:
The NFL may not officially act until there's a verdict, but I'm guessing his sponsers won't be quite so hesitant.

Do keep in mind that the league participated in this investigation -- so the league has lots of information right now to make a decision. So like the Feds, the league has a sense to whether they believe he has done something wrong.

If I'm Goodell, I work with Arthur Blank and Vick's agent to broker a deal where Vick agrees to take a leave in lieu of being suspended - if there is a suspension later handed down, he gets credit for "time served" - this leave would likely have to be paid but the suspension might come with a fine that included extra game checks.
 

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StonetheCrow77;1554600 said:
Anyone who writes a joing letter with PETA has to be an idiot...

even, though, in this case, they are correct...

yep...
 

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abersonc;1554602 said:
Do keep in mind that the league participated in this investigation -- so the league has lots of information right now to make a decision. So like the Feds, the league has a sense to whether they believe he has done something wrong.

If I'm Goodell, I work with Arthur Blank and Vick's agent to broker a deal where Vick agrees to take a leave in lieu of being suspended - if there is a suspension later handed down, he gets credit for "time served" - this leave would likely have to be paid but the suspension might come with a fine that included extra game checks.
Just curious: Why would the league broker a deal with Vick? What leverage does Vick have here? Usually you cut a deal whem both sides have something to gain. What does the NFL have to gain?

I think it would send a bad message that the mega-stars of the sport get to cut PR deals while the average joe Tank Johnsons of the world get hammered.
 

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I don't think Goodell would be inclined to cut Vick any break since he pretty much lied to him
 

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Bob Sacamano;1554633 said:
I don't think Goodell would be inclined to cut Vick any break since he pretty much lied to him


That would be my guess too.

I am guessing that Goodell will choose to send a message via Vick.
 

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03EBZ06;1554601 said:
Their letter goes to show the volume of "public opinion". Vick hasn't been found guilty, and yet, few of the nationally well known figures are sending a letter to Vick's sponsors as if they want the sponsors to cut ties with Vick, very interesting.

From the letter sent out...

"We hope that Mr. Vick is not a product of this insensitivity that runs through our society. ... It does us little good to prosecute just those who are famous and allow people across the country to continue to commit these hideous crimes. We are hopeful that authorities will take the appropriate action against anyone found guilty of an atrocity as serious as dogfighting
 

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Chocolate Lab;1554614 said:
Just curious: Why would the league broker a deal with Vick? What leverage does Vick have here? Usually you cut a deal whem both sides have something to gain. What does the NFL have to gain?

I think it would send a bad message that the mega-stars of the sport get to cut PR deals while the average joe Tank Johnsons of the world get hammered.

The league does have something to gain - what they can gain here is a situation wherein they can take action immediately without having to wait for a verdict -- it isn't a "deal" so much as a situation that allows the league to act now and reduce the bad press they will suffer by having Vick associated with the league.

Of course, they can simply suspend him right now too. But as others have pointed out in the mondo other thread on this topic, that presents some issues of fairness and justice in that he has yet to be convicted.
 

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This interests me from a certain stand point.

The commish has came down hard on some players recently.

Now this whole Vick thing is going on.

I wonder if he will come down as hard on Vick.

Here is why I wonder about it.

Tank Johnson, Pac Man Jones and Chris Henry are not in the status of a Vick.

By status I mean it as a Franchise QB for a team and a very popular person in the NFL.

Jerk or not Vick has made money for the NFL. They have hyped him up on ESPN and other sports networks. He goes to the Pro-Bowl. Has had many sponsors. He is viewed as a young QB for todays NFL.

So in that aspect he is not like the others who have recently got in trouble.

Now I don't know if the Commish will be harsher on him since Vick is more of a superstar and in turn gets more negative press for the NFL. Will he be less harsh on him as millions of young people idolize him and watch the game because of him, helps sell jerseys and so on.

Just something to watch here. I don't know if the commish will be consistant with Vicks punishment or if he goes a little more one way or the other.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1554633 said:
I don't think Goodell would be inclined to cut Vick any break since he pretty much lied to him

I don't think he's cutting Vick a break so much as recognizing that if the league wants to be totally in the right here that they would have to wait for a conviction -- and I doubt that he wants to do that.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1554649 said:
This interests me from a certain stand point.

The commish has came down hard on some players recently.

Now this whole Vick thing is going on.

I wonder if he will come down as hard on Vick.

Here is why I wonder about it.

Tank Johnson, Pac Man Jones and Chris Henry are not in the status of a Vick.

By status I mean it as a Franchise QB for a team and a very popular person in the NFL.

Jerk or not Vick has made money for the NFL. They have hyped him up on ESPN and other sports networks. He goes to the Pro-Bowl. Has had many sponsors. He is viewed as a young QB for todays NFL.

So in that aspect he is not like the others who have recently got in trouble.

Now I don't know if the Commish will be harsher on him since Vick is more of a superstar and in turn gets more negative press for the NFL. Will he be less harsh on him as millions of young people idolize him and watch the game because of him, helps sell jerseys and so on.

Just something to watch here. I don't know if the commish will be consistant with Vicks punishment or if he goes a little more one way or the other.

I think the league will lower the boom on Vick if found guilty.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1554636 said:
From the letter sent out...

"We hope that Mr. Vick is not a product of this insensitivity that runs through our society. ... It does us little good to prosecute just those who are famous and allow people across the country to continue to commit these hideous crimes. We are hopeful that authorities will take the appropriate action against anyone found guilty of an atrocity as serious as dogfighting
I just find it interesting that letter was sent to Vick's sponsors only.
 

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03EBZ06;1554661 said:
I just find it interesting that letter was sent to Vick's sponsors only.

Should they send it to the red cross and a 7-11?

Not being a wise guy but who else would they send it to?

They are saying if he is found guilty we feel he should be punished. Punished in terms of the sponsorship being dropped.

Giving a heads up.
 

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I'm not what you could call an animal lover, but I am glad someone is speaking out against cruely to animals. I was listening to the Tom Joyner Morning Show own the radio this morning and when the subject of whether or not Vick should be "banned" from the NFL came up, Tom Joyner kept saying it's "just some dogs." "Why should he be banned for just some dogs?" Although a lifetime ban would be harsh, (maybe too harsh, I don't know), I take offense to the phrase "just some dogs." It is that attitude that allows a human to be cruel to another creature. I mean, hanging? Slamming? Drowning? Come on Tom Joyner, where is your humanity?
 

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Doomsday101;1554659 said:
I think the league will lower the boom on Vick if found guilty.

They won't have to...

If he is convicted he is likely going to the backdoor slammer for multiple years. Also keep in mind as well that there is no parole in Federal prison. You do the time...
 
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