Recommended Rewatched the First Half - Defensive Edition

[xwalker]

Nick Hayden - He needs to be our 4th tackle at best and he is starting. This is a huge problem for this team and we desperately need McClain to get healthy. His best snap was one in which he got a little bit in the A gap so the guard could only get one arm on him. The problem is that he was still pushed backwards. He cannot hold off or get away from blockers. He needs to do a better job trying to use his hands to ward off the punch. I get that San Diego has a very good line but good teams will exploit him and we desperately need to get better.

Ken Bishop - I like Ken Bishop. I like the way he plays. the Charger attacked the weakside off tackle or with a pass to the back to a great degree of success. And he chased all of it. Because he was backside the center need only cut him off for a second for the play to work so he was single blocked and every time he chased the play down the line and up field. He hustles down after down after down. The horsecollar tackle is an obvious feat of athleticism that has precedent in Cowboys lore. It hearkens to days of greatness.

Do you think Bishop is better than Hayden?

IMO, if it's even close in the 1st preseason game, Bishop is just going to get better while Hayden has already had his chance to get better and it didn't happen.

 

[DFWJC]

I know I wasn't pinning that TD on Dixon, but he absolutely needed to recognize the busted coverage there.
I think, or I'm pretty sure anyway, everyone understands the role of the FS in cover 3. In this case, I think, the SS had to step in and break off standard assignment....if that was even what it was.

I'll maintain that at the time the Qb released the ball, there were two WRs going deep. One (#10) was on the FS side of field and had been released by the LB. The other was on the other side of the field and had beaten the CB right in front of our SS, and he ended up scoring over the top.

These plays don't happen in a vacuum, where you download a fixed theoretical scheme with assignments and say that is you sole responsibility. The CB clearly blew the play but he wasn't alone.

Like I said, Dixon had a really nice game for his first time out there. Impressive, IMO.

 

[itsaboat]

Discussion over

I don't know why people were having trouble. I already stated Dallas was in cover 3 in my post here.

 

[TheDude]

I know I wasn't pinning that TD on Dixon, but he absolutely needed to recognize the busted coverage there.
I think, or I'm pretty sure anyway, everyone understands the role of the FS in cover 3.

I'll maintain that at the time the Qb released the ball, there were two WRs going deep. One (#10) was on the FS side of field and had been released by the LB. The other was on the other side of the field and had beaten the CB right in front of our SS, and he ended up scoring over the top.

Like I said, Dixon had a really nice game for his first time out there. Impressive, IMO.

Serious question.

If the responsibility is to come up a cover middle/ sideline routes, how are you going to turn and recover if you see the cb get beat with an outside move and he got no jam playing press?

It looked like Dixon played his fundamentals but could not cover for the CBS lack of them. The fs is there as the last line. Dixon breaking responsibility would be something you may expect from a woods on or reed, but t not a rookie

 

[dogunwo]

It pretty much should. But supposedly the whole design was to not be able to do much or something.

I think you misunderstood Fuzzy's point. The coaches wanted the defense to do well, they just weren't going to scheme for it. They wanted a look at players in different scenarios and responsibilities, and were disappointed by the results.

 

[Bluestang]

Serious question.

If the responsibility is to come up a cover middle/ sideline routes, how are you going to turn and recover if you see the cb get beat with an outside move and he got no jam playing press?

It looked like Dixon played his fundamentals but could not cover for the CBS lack of them. The fs is there as the last line. Dixon breaking responsibility would be something you may expect from a woods on or reed, but t not a rookie

If Dixon had that type of recognition and speed, he wouldn't have been a 7th round pick.

 

[DFWJC]

Serious question.

If the responsibility is to come up a cover middle/ sideline routes, how are you going to turn and recover if you see the cb get beat with an outside move and he got no jam playing press?

It looked like Dixon played his fundamentals but could not cover for the CBS lack of them. The fs is there as the last line. Dixon breaking responsibility would be something you may expect from a woods on or reed, but t not a rookie

Yeah, I agree that was maybe too much to expect. Really, the formation and insuing routes almost would make me think the alternate coverage would be the linebacker being stretched to cover the RB...though that most likely was not the case.

The FS was in bad shape there with two WRs appearing to be on deep routes at the time the QB released the ball. I guess the vulnerability of a possible cover 3 and busted coverage got the intended results for SD.

 

[Alexander]

I think you misunderstood Fuzzy's point. The coaches wanted the defense to do well.

That's when I knew they didn't really care about defensive performance. They were interested in player development.

Okay, if you say so.

I think you are reading too much into a statement that was nothing but apologetic to describe a performance as something that was strategic, where the coaches put players in a position to fail with intent.

There is big difference between saying that and well, they did not try and the even fundamentals they wanted to see and it broke down.

 

[TheDude]

Dixon 4.48 forty

Ryan Smith 4.51 forty

Wasn't talking about Dixon. He had no shot.
Smith and lindsay looked slow. Lindsey ran a 4.56 40. Inmann ran a 4.47

The 40 was a generic point. But flawed granted on a 70 yd play and a fs running 40 yds to get in the area. I can do the math but the difference between 4.47 and 4.51 and 4.56 is not losing 10 yards in separations. At minimum it should have been relatively staticin that fine area.

 

[TheDude]

I don't know why people were having trouble. I already stated Dallas was in cover 3 in my post here.

What did you use to capture the play sequence?

 

[CCBoy]

If Dixon had that type of recognition and speed, he wouldn't have been a 7th round pick.

One just can't make a blanket statement on talent that has not proven or disproven it's metal. Otherwise, Tony Romo wouldn't have signed an all time high contract with Dallas.

One can stereotype and chug Ripple at the burn barrel all he wishes...that player still has to prove or disprove himself.

Myself, being singled out by the Head Coach for merit on the field, would be a pretty relevant indicator to this long suffering fan, and collegiate, ex-player himself.

 

[CCBoy]

What did you use to capture the play sequence?

Never mind...back to ignore.

 

[itsaboat]

What did you use to capture the play sequence?

Info here and included a link too

 

[guag]

These are the basic coverages.

It was 3x1 formation from the offense. You can see the 2 LBs the nickel corner and Dixon get into their 4 zones post snap.

This isn't difficult guys.

Well then.

 

[Bluestang]

Yeah, I agree that was maybe too much to expect. Really, the formation and insuing routes almost would make me think the alternate coverage would be the linebacker being stretched to cover the RB...though that most likely was not the case.

The FS was in bad shape there with two WRs appearing to be on deep routes at the time the QB released the ball. I guess the vulnerability of a possible cover 3 and busted coverage got the intended results for SD.

This is a "Levels" concept from the SD offense.

The flanker and the Y run verticals while the split-end and the slot run crossing routes, sometimes at different depths.

The QB reads from short to deep so the ball should be going to one of the crossing routes rather than deep. The deep routes are meant to clear that side of the field for the crossing routes.

But because of the busted coverage, the ball goes deep because the FS doesn't have elite speed or recognition to close on the vertical.

 

[TheDude]

Never mind...back to ignore.

the word "you" triggers outrage from you and now I can add asking another poster what software they used to cut and paste play.

Schtick back in full effect. Please put me on ignore. That confirms my assumption you are too delicate mentally to discuss anything rationally.

 

[TheDude]

Info here and included a link too

Thanks!

 

[CCBoy]

Info here and included a link too

There was info both ways...

 

[TheDude]

Info here and included a link too

BTW, that might be one of the best usernames and avatar combos I've seen. Kudos.

 

[dogunwo]

Okay, if you say so.

I think you are reading too much into a statement that was nothing but apologetic to describe a performance as something that was strategic, where the coaches put players in a position to fail with intent.

There is big difference between saying that and well, they did not try and the even fundamentals they wanted to see and it broke down.

I agree that the results were nothing short of pathetic. I didn't take it as Garrett wanted them to do terrible and made it so.