Recommended Rewatched the First Half - Defensive Edition

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One just can't make a blanket statement on talent that has not proven or disproven it's metal. Otherwise, Tony Romo wouldn't have signed an all time high contract with Dallas.

One can stereotype and chug Ripple at the burn barrel all he wishes...that player still has to prove or disprove himself.

Myself, being singled out by the Head Coach for merit on the field, would be a pretty relevant indicator to this long suffering fan, and collegiate, ex-player himself.

Don't be ridiculous, Dixon can get better, but RIGHT NOW he's pretty raw.

Just like Tony Romo coming out, he has to work on his craft.
 

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Rewatching this clip, I have to disagree with Fuzzy a little bit on this play. Dixon is eyeing the running back coming out into the flat. That was his responsibility while he still tried to shade help to the corner. Someone who has actually practiced at corner with this team would know that they have no help over the top and play deep. I don't fault Dixon for this one at all.

It was single high. You can see the other guy bail high at the snap.
 

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Don't be ridiculous, Dixon can get better, but RIGHT NOW he's pretty raw.

Just like Tony Romo coming out, he has to work on his craft.

The only thing ridiculous is the clamor of insight when the fact that was replicated from my posting, was identical to your point above.

Pompous doesn't add anything to an insult...not impressed by unwavering attitude displayed. Yet you claim insight...you bet, bucko.

You were insulting a 'rook' who did a good performance in the proving arena of pre season...naw, go back and sit on the bench and collect splinters!! At lleast leave the stereotype types of excuses out of a real demonstration of talent.

By that standard, two sacks would be discounted due to penalties by other players...and thus, non-existent as well...naw, back to the burn barrel.
 

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Don't be ridiculous, Dixon can get better, but RIGHT NOW he's pretty raw.

Just like Tony Romo coming out, he has to work on his craft.

watch him work his craft quick he can find a spot on this defense easy. If he can play with those instincts , I haven't seen a player like that since rookie RW31
 

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I know I wasn't pinning that TD on Dixon, but he absolutely needed to recognize the busted coverage there.
I think, or I'm pretty sure anyway, everyone understands the role of the FS in cover 3. In this case, I think, the SS had to step in and break off standard assignment....if that was even what it was.

I'll maintain that at the time the Qb released the ball, there were two WRs going deep. One (#10) was on the FS side of field and had been released by the LB. The other was on the other side of the field and had beaten the CB right in front of our SS, and he ended up scoring over the top.

These plays don't happen in a vacuum, where you download a fixed theoretical scheme with assignments and say that is you sole responsibility. The CB clearly blew the play but he wasn't alone.

Like I said, Dixon had a really nice game for his first time out there. Impressive, IMO.

Dixon's first game ever in the NFL and people are saying that his coverage is terrible. However, they failed to realize that Dallas runs a system where the FS and SS are interchangeable and you will have several confused players in the safety position on who does what. If thats the case than so be it. It can be fixed. Lets not rate him on one particular play who we ALL aren't sure if it was his fault or not. He had a great game and possibly will have a future here in Dallas.
 

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well all I know

if this the D we end up with

all the other teams will have to due is run the ball - WE CAN NOT EVEN STOP THE RUN

oh I forgot we need 8 in the box - that opens up the passing game

I afraid that's going to be a LONG YEAR

we do not have the DL to play

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Inside-the-playbook-the-Tampa-2.html


DE: Rush with contain principles. Force the QB to step up into the pocket.
N: Rush A-gap weak with a two-way go on the offensive guard.
T: TEX (Tackle/End stunt) with the DE. Contain Rush. Tackle stunts first.
DE: TEX (Tackle/End stunt) with T. Scoop to strong side “B gap."
WLB: Read run/pass. Drop to weak hook, a depth of 10-12 yards between numbers and hash marks. Slide with the eyes of the QB.
MLB: Read run/pass. Open strong and run with any inside vertical route by No. 2. If no vertical by No. 2, drop to a depth of 15 yards and react to any underneath throw.
SLB: Read run/pass. Drop to strong hook, a depth of 10-12 yards between the numbers and the hash. Slide with the eyes of the QB.
C: Jam and re-route No. 1 to force an inside release. Drop to a depth of 12 yards with zone technique (back to the sideline) to protect the deep 7 (or flag) route. Rally to any ball thrown to the flat.
SS: Read release of No. 1 for run/pass key. Drop to a depth of 15-18 yards at your landmark — top of the numbers. Protect the 9 (or fade) route and react to any inside vertical. Verses two verticals, get depth and break downhill on the throw.
C: Jam and re-route No. 1 to force an inside release. Drop to a depth of 12 yards with zone technique (back to the sideline) to protect the deep 7 (or flag) route. Rally to any ball thrown to the flat.
FS: Read release of No. 1 for run/pass key. Drop to a depth of 15-18 yards at your landmark — top of the numbers. Protect the 9 (or fade) route by No.1 and react to any inside vertical

The base idea is simple. Drop seven into coverage and let your four man rush force the ball to come out with pressure — allowing the defense to rally to the football, make a tackle and get off the field. That’s why Chicago paid big money for DE Julius Peppers, the Colts rely on Dwight Freeney and the Vikings can play coverage with the pressure of Jared Allen
 

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Pretty much stopped here which was saying "we meant to do that".

I get that you have a personal issue with me. I would rather have it this way and just have a petty dismissal than the other types of petty digs you typically employ.
 

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Rewatching this clip, I have to disagree with Fuzzy a little bit on this play. Dixon is eyeing the running back coming out into the flat. That was his responsibility while he still tried to shade help to the corner. Someone who has actually practiced at corner with this team would know that they have no help over the top and play deep. I don't fault Dixon for this one at all.

I get that he is eyeballing the backfield. He does that a lot.

Sapp calls it blind dog in the butcher shop. A guy that chases the what he can sense but cannot see what is going on around him. Right now Dixon cannot really see routes. I am not saying he cannot improve in the regard and I refrained for using that term in my writeup because it is derisive and I thought unfair for a guy just coming into the league. An example of a vet that the moniker fits is Ernie Sims.

Right now Dixon has no awareness or ball skills in coverage.
 

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And lol out people saying that he had responsibility for the RB with 4 underneath defenders in front of him. I refrain from assigning coverage responsibilities in the general sense because there is no way to know but that one made me chuckle.
 

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It looks like Dallas was in Cover 3. Everyone is in zone except for Lindsey who was playing man. Lindsey gets beat and gives up the TD.

Here's the Gfycat of the play so you can slow it down and go frame by frame.

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You can see 23 or whoever in the left deep half with Dixon in his on the right. What I didn't give him credit for was shading after the snap which he did do and is a sight better than what i said. As for the people talking about the RB there is 53 in the short zone in front of him that reacts to the play about 2 seconds before Dixon. If anyone should have gotten the RB it was 53. He unlike Dixon knew where the ball was going and tried to stop it.
 

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The support comes from the the FS who is in the deep middle (#33) because they are in a cover 3. This is the single most important reason why FS need to be able to run sideline to sideline and are supposed to have elite coverage skills. It's why Earl Thomas is a great safety.

Dixon's responsibility is curl/flat and at post-snap he is rolling forward to that area. There are four underneath zones by the 2 LBs and the SS (Dixon) and the nickel corner.

The corner shouldn't even be lined up in press technique with the markers being 10+ yds.

Henderson probably told the kid to line up press no matter what the call was, so they could look at his technique on tape.

I'm pretty sure the coaches are yelling at #33 more than #36 in the film room.

There is another S at the same depth as Dixon on the left side. 23 was his number. It was not single high. The WR literally ran right by Dixon who had shaded farther to the sideline while he is staring down the backfield.

And assigning coverage responsibilities to the underneath stuff is a waste of time. There is no way to know the call. I just single out Dixon because he was the guy in the deep half and the receiver ran within arms length of him.
 

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There is another S at the same depth as Dixon on the left side. 23 was his number. It was not single high. The WR literally ran right by Dixon who had shaded farther to the sideline while he is staring down the backfield.

And assigning coverage responsibilities to the underneath stuff is a waste of time. There is no way to know the call. I just single out Dixon because he was the guy in the deep half and the receiver ran within arms length of him.

23 is Jakar Hamilton.
 

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well all I know

if this the D we end up with

all the other teams will have to due is run the ball - WE CAN NOT EVEN STOP THE RUN

oh I forgot we need 8 in the box - that opens up the passing game

I afraid that's going to be a LONG YEAR

we do not have the DL to play

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Inside-the-playbook-the-Tampa-2.html


DE: Rush with contain principles. Force the QB to step up into the pocket.
N: Rush A-gap weak with a two-way go on the offensive guard.
T: TEX (Tackle/End stunt) with the DE. Contain Rush. Tackle stunts first.
DE: TEX (Tackle/End stunt) with T. Scoop to strong side “B gap."
WLB: Read run/pass. Drop to weak hook, a depth of 10-12 yards between numbers and hash marks. Slide with the eyes of the QB.
MLB: Read run/pass. Open strong and run with any inside vertical route by No. 2. If no vertical by No. 2, drop to a depth of 15 yards and react to any underneath throw.
SLB: Read run/pass. Drop to strong hook, a depth of 10-12 yards between the numbers and the hash. Slide with the eyes of the QB.
C: Jam and re-route No. 1 to force an inside release. Drop to a depth of 12 yards with zone technique (back to the sideline) to protect the deep 7 (or flag) route. Rally to any ball thrown to the flat.
SS: Read release of No. 1 for run/pass key. Drop to a depth of 15-18 yards at your landmark — top of the numbers. Protect the 9 (or fade) route and react to any inside vertical. Verses two verticals, get depth and break downhill on the throw.
C: Jam and re-route No. 1 to force an inside release. Drop to a depth of 12 yards with zone technique (back to the sideline) to protect the deep 7 (or flag) route. Rally to any ball thrown to the flat.
FS: Read release of No. 1 for run/pass key. Drop to a depth of 15-18 yards at your landmark — top of the numbers. Protect the 9 (or fade) route by No.1 and react to any inside vertical

The base idea is simple. Drop seven into coverage and let your four man rush force the ball to come out with pressure — allowing the defense to rally to the football, make a tackle and get off the field. That’s why Chicago paid big money for DE Julius Peppers, the Colts rely on Dwight Freeney and the Vikings can play coverage with the pressure of Jared Allen

Premature on the d-line ability, but good read...thanks for a good description.
 

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There is another S at the same depth as Dixon on the left side. 23 was his number. It was not single high. The WR literally ran right by Dixon who had shaded farther to the sideline while he is staring down the backfield.

And assigning coverage responsibilities to the underneath stuff is a waste of time. There is no way to know the call. I just single out Dixon because he was the guy in the deep half and the receiver ran within arms length of him.

It's #33, and its a cover 3 since #33 turns his hips heads towards the middle of the hashes. Dixon doesn't have RB responsibility, he has curl/flat zone. RB responsibility suggests man coverage.

#53 is and #57 are in hook zones in the seams. The nickel Corner and the SS have curl/flat zones. 4 underneath zones.

At the very edge of the screen you can see BW Webb in the curl/flat zone area just right over the numbers on the other side.

The picture I posted earlier of a classic cover 3 has 4 underneath zones.

The problem is that the new corner shouldn't be lined up in press technique because it's 2nd and 14, and the offense is showing a 3x1 alignment. I think I explained it earlier where they probably told the kid to just line up in press no matter what because he wouldn't know the right techniques to play for any given coverage call. That type of alignment should have tipped the QB to go at the flanker if he beats the press coverage because the FS won't close on the vertical in time - pre-snap.

I'm going to keep sticking with what I know and call it a cover 3, since it looks like one and acts like one.
 

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It's #33, and its a cover 3 since #33 turns his hips heads towards the middle of the hashes. Dixon doesn't have RB responsibility, he has curl/flat zone. RB responsibility suggests man coverage.

#53 is and #57 are in hook zones in the seams. The nickel Corner and the SS have curl/flat zones. 4 underneath zones.

At the very edge of the screen you can see BW Webb in the curl/flat zone area just right over the numbers on the other side.

The picture I posted earlier of a classic cover 3 has 4 underneath zones.

The problem is that the new corner shouldn't be lined up in press technique because it's 2nd and 14, and the offense is showing a 3x1 alignment. I think I explained it earlier where they probably told the kid to just line up in press no matter what because he wouldn't know the right techniques to play for any given coverage call. That type of alignment should have tipped the QB to go at the flanker if he beats the press coverage because the FS won't close on the vertical in time - pre-snap.

I'm going to keep sticking with what I know and call it a cover 3, since it looks like one and acts like one.

33 is S Ryan Smith; 53 is Cameron Lawrence, and 57 is DeVonte Holloman.
 

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It's #33, and its a cover 3 since #33 turns his hips heads towards the middle of the hashes. Dixon doesn't have RB responsibility, he has curl/flat zone. RB responsibility suggests man coverage.

#53 is and #57 are in hook zones in the seams. The nickel Corner and the SS have curl/flat zones. 4 underneath zones.

At the very edge of the screen you can see BW Webb in the curl/flat zone area just right over the numbers on the other side.

The picture I posted earlier of a classic cover 3 has 4 underneath zones.

The problem is that the new corner shouldn't be lined up in press technique because it's 2nd and 14, and the offense is showing a 3x1 alignment. I think I explained it earlier where they probably told the kid to just line up in press no matter what because he wouldn't know the right techniques to play for any given coverage call. That type of alignment should have tipped the QB to go at the flanker if he beats the press coverage because the FS won't close on the vertical in time - pre-snap.

I'm going to keep sticking with what I know and call it a cover 3, since it looks like one and acts like one.

You may be correct. At the same time Dixon covered nobody. If he had indeed been assigned to cover short then I would have liked to see him actually attempt to go up and cover. He certainly did not move up to try and nad handle passes to a short 8 yard break. As it was he ends up covering nobody as the deepest man to the side the TD was thrown. I don't think it remiss to describe Dixon in coverage as inept.
 
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