Recommended Rewatched the First Half - Defensive Edition

[CCBoy]

You may be correct. At the same time Dixon covered nobody. If he had indeed been assigned to cover short then I would have liked to see him actually attempt to go up and cover. He certainly did not move up to try and nad handle passes to a short 8 yard break. As it was he ends up covering nobody as the deepest man to the side the TD was thrown. I don't think it remiss to describe Dixon in coverage as inept.

That might be a youthful attempt at disguising how he is actually attempting to play the action.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Gotta say even though the defense failed (a lot) Thursday night, I like that they're using a Cover-3. I like that coverage.

 

[Bluestang]

You may be correct. At the same time Dixon covered nobody. If he had indeed been assigned to cover short then I would have liked to see him actually attempt to go up and cover. He certainly did not move up to try and nad handle passes to a short 8 yard break. As it was he ends up covering nobody as the deepest man to the side the TD was thrown. I don't think it remiss to describe Dixon in coverage as inept.

Not at all re: Dixon. If he could have read that as it happened I would be ecstatic about him.

He read the QB the whole time, while getting to his zone and and didn't see the corner in front of him get beat.

It's was a bad situation to be in the first place, because the corner literally met the team in SD and suited up to play.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Not at all re: Dixon. If he could have read that as it happened I would be ecstatic about him.

He read the QB the whole time, while getting to his zone and and didn't see the corner in front of him get beat.

It's was a bad situation to be in the first place, because the corner literally met the team in SD and suited up to play.

Again if he had responsibility to cover the curl he is 15 yard deep and he needs to run up there so he can make a play on the ball when the receiver breaks on his route. He didn't do that. It's why I question your assertion as to responsibility. For example they rolled the coverage to the strongside multiple times in the first half. It was still a two deep look but shaded to that side of the field. May well they were doing that.

We won't know because instead of trying to cover his assignment, Dixon stares at the backfield while routes are run around him. If you want to assign responsibilities at least make sure he executed the ones you give him.

 

[Bluestang]

Again if he had responsibility to cover the curl he is 15 yard deep and he needs to run up there so he can make a play on the ball when the receiver breaks on his route. He didn't do that. It's why I question your assertion as to responsibility. For example they rolled the coverage to the strongside multiple times in the first half. It was still a two deep look but shaded to that side of the field. May well they were doing that.

We won't know because instead of trying to cover his assignment, Dixon stares at the backfield while routes are run around him. If you want to assign responsibilities at least make sure he executed the ones you give him.

I'm going to step away from this thread now. You can call it whatever you like.

Just take your own advice on your assertions and future write-ups too.

 

[peplaw06]

The guys you can see on defense are doing exactly what @itsaboat and @Bluestang are saying. The S opposite Dixon bails our back and toward the middle of the field. Lawrence and Holloman back peddle to their zones and Dixon moves to the sideline and slightly up to his zone. All three of those guys are at the same depth. Lindsay is playing man. What they did follows exactly the coverage map that Bluestang posted.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm going to step away from this thread now. You can call it whatever you like.

Just take your own advice on your assertions and future write-ups too.

Sorry if I have irritated you.

As for my own advice, I do take it. Thanks.

But if in your scenario you see Dixon taking the curl then its pretty clear that he wouldn't have executed that responsibility either. He made no attempt to deal with any break that WR may have made. He was staring down the QB waiting for him to do something with the ball.

This isn't just one play. He does it on pass after pass. Just takes off like a missile once the QB gets rid of the ball be it hand off or pass.

 

[starfrombirth]

Sorry if I have irritated you.

As for my own advice, I do take it. Thanks.

But if in your scenario you see Dixon taking the curl then its pretty clear that he wouldn't have executed that responsibility either. He made no attempt to deal with any break that WR may have made. He was staring down the QB waiting for him to do something with the ball.

This isn't just one play. He does it on pass after pass. Just takes off like a missile once the QB gets rid of the ball be it hand off or pass.

It's apparent that he got caught in no mans land Fuzz. He recognized the rb coming out into the flat and just as he starts to run up to that spot the ball goes over the cb's head. If it had been thrown to the rb, Dixon would have crushed him. I understand you wanting to stick to your guns. I can see why you might believe as you do but since no one of us knows the actual defense called, can you admit that my observation might be valid? If not, then we have to agree to disagree.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's apparent that he got caught in no mans land Fuzz. He recognized the rb coming out into the flat and just as he starts to run up to that spot the ball goes over the cb's head. If it had been thrown to the rb, Dixon would have crushed him. I understand you wanting to stick to your guns. I can see why you might believe as you do but since no one of us knows the actual defense called, can you admit that my observation might be valid? If not, then we have to agree to disagree.

Sure as long as you guys can admit to the possibility that he is unresponsive to routes being ran around him and instead waits for the QB to get rid of the ball down in and down out.

 

[Alexander]

I find it amazing that Dixon is being faulted for a blown coverage by a player that might be lucky to be drawing a check in week or two. It was clearly Cover 3 and Lindsey showed he just got signed off the street twenty four hours before the game.

 

[starfrombirth]

Sure as long as you guys can admit to the possibility that he is unresponsive to routes being ran around him and instead waits for the QB to get rid of the ball down in and down out.

Sure, it's possible. It's not the way I saw it but it's not worth all this arguing. Look forward to your next post because for the most part i truly enjoyed this one. Just disagreed on the Dixon point is all have a great night.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I find it amazing that Dixon is being faulted for a blown coverage by a player that might be lucky to be drawing a check in week or two. It was clearly Cover 3 and Lindsey showed he just got signed off the street twenty four hours before the game.

i find it amazing that lost in this is my central point that he appears to lack awareness in the passing game. That he is fine when asked to pick up backs and the like right in front of him but struggles in space to the point where he is unresponsive.

you can keep assessing coverages to exonerate him of 'fault' but it still is what it is. its amazing how differently i think than some people. I don't think in terms of fault and blame, people.

 

[Alexander]

i find it amazing that lost in this is my central point that he appears to lack awareness in the passing game. That he is fine when asked to pick up backs and the like right in front of him but struggles in space to the point where he is unresponsive.

It is not a surprise to anyone that knew anything about Dixon based on his career at Baylor. He had a reputation as a passionate head hunter who lacked discipline and coverage awareness. You did not reveal anything that was earth shattering. If these things about Dixon are what you learned after your exhaustive analysis, kudos. Some of us already knew this.

its amazing how differently i think than some people.

You are right about that.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Gotta say even though the defense failed (a lot) Thursday night, I like that they're using a Cover-3. I like that coverage.

Same here.

I think it is a better fit for our talent...such as it is.

 

[Alexander]

Same here.

I think it is a better fit for our talent...such as it is.

Yes and no. Get an Earl Thomas type safety, it would work like it is supposed to.

There is no perfect coverage. It is always a combination of calling the right coverages to the talent available.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes and no. Get an Earl Thomas type safety, it would work like it is supposed to.

There is no perfect coverage. It is always a combination of calling the right coverages to the talent available.

How about talk about who we have rather then set the best in the game as the required standard. Our FS is JJ Wilcox.

 

[Alexander]

How about talk about who we have rather then set the best in the game as the required standard. Our FS is JJ Wilcox.

It is actually Church, if you want to get all technical.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It is not a surprise to anyone that knew anything about Dixon based on his career at Baylor. He had a reputation as a passionate head hunter who lacked discipline and coverage awareness. You did not reveal anything that was earth shattering. If these things about Dixon are what you learned after your exhaustive analysis, kudos. Some of us already knew this.

You are right about that.

The condescending form of 'I knew that.'

What I take away from this is that Alex agrees with me even if is so salty that he has to say it in the most backhanded manner possible. Typical Alex.

 

[Alexander]

The condescending form of 'I knew that.'

What I take away from this is that Alex agrees with me even if is so salty that he has to say it in the most backhanded manner possible. Typical Alex.

Nice way to ignore the whole point, which was you are not nearly as smart as you think you are and this sudden foray into "film analysis" is really not your forte.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Nice way to ignore the whole point, which was you are not nearly as smart as you think you are and this sudden foray into "film analysis" is really not your forte.

It's as good as anything I've read in a fan forum. As far as I know, none of us has been contacted by an NFL front office.