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So I over the last week or so there has been a serious bout of group think describing his play in 2012 as 'okay.'
Well, if you know me at all then you know that I hate generalizations, especially emotional ones. I get the tepid response to be just that.
It really tells me absolutely nothing. It doesn't tell me how he deals with the power combo block on him. It doesn't tell me if he gets push. It doesn't tell me if he has any rush. That type of response, I can literally go either way on any guess and i might be right. It's lazy thinking.
So in the pursuit of truth and with a highly recommended NFLRewind account, I decide to take a look for myself.
Popped on the 2012 Game 1 @NYG. In case people are forgetting is what went on that season, I think of it as the beginning of the injury years that we are still in today. Ware was healthy for this game as were Lee and Carter but Ratliff was out for this game. Brent is going to get a lot of snaps this game and for much of the season.
First drive was a three and out. He is a 2 gap NT so his job first job is to hit the center. He only played two plays but on both he got push both times and they ran away from him. the second was on a stretch play. He does to me what looks like a good job shuffling his feet to the side to not muck up the line and shoving the center backwards. They run away from him. This center cannot single block him at the point of attack. Giants try to move their linemen back and forth. 3rd down was nickel and he isn't in it.
Second drive showed him taking on multiple blockers twice. On was another zone play where they doubled him on the move. He has very good feet and he got into position and got more push than they did. the other was the power combo, the OG had to stay home a tick before he disengaged and he managed hold his ground. On another play, he picks up the C and deposits him into Mannings lap. Manning throws it away. Manning is able to pick on Claiborne and Church on the right side for first downs but Wilson fumbles it away to us.
As an aside, I now remember why we were so down on Doug Free.
Third drive sees us in the second quarter, Marcus Spears and Sean Lissemore are getting snaps at NT. They get zero push but its a 3 and out nonetheless.
I miss Demarcus Ware but i don't miss Kevin OIgletree. Remember he was our third WR. Offense is struggling with Cook being forced into duty. Romo does not like pressure in his face and he throws a bad interception in the middle of the secondary that the Giants return to our 2 yard line.
This drive sees Brent defending the goal. First snap, he pushes the center a yard back on a run to the right side strung out for a two yard loss. Second, the center tries to submarine him but he just overwhelms it. When the run right tries to cut back, he is in the middle to make the tackle for a 2 yard loss. He is not in on 3rd and 6 but he helped get us there. Outstanding effort.
Next drive, Ryan is doing some of his hybrid fronts on first down but second down he is back in. Does a nice job sloughing the block and chasing down the line to get in on a tackle. He isn't in on 3rd and 8.
Bissacia puts out better ST than we had that year. Offense is just a comedy of errors. 6 penalties and Tyron is struggling to block JPP. Those days are hopefully over. Ogletree still sucks. Bryant can win on the 9 route. TD to Ogletree of all people.
I see that I feel a visceral loathing when seeing John Mara. Interesting.
Ryan is giving more weird looks and Brent isn't in them as time winds down. Only two plays and the half is over.
Miles Austin seems cooked. What on Earth happened to Felix Jones? A skinny legged Bryant is making plays. Witten battling through a spleen. I get the disrespect for Ogletree but you have to at least try to cover him. Webster takes a play off and Ogletree gets his second TD. Giants are playing like poo poo.
Coleman manning NT along with Spears and Lissemore to start the next drive. Replacement refs inexperience slowing the game down. in route on Claiborne gets first down. Brent is inserted while Collinsowrth talks about how defenses wear out and the running game can get going. That is not what i am seeing.
Now one thing that stands out to me that Brent needs to do a better job with is use his hands. there have been a couple of snaps where he just doesn't use them. He has a great body, he is kinda high cut but he is so wide he can stay low. He is like Zach Martin in that respect. He has really long arms but sometimes he just doesnt use them. Now he is explosive and this center is not playing exceptionally well but he will get up into the center and it looks like sea lions fighting.
Silva sucks at safety and a long completion on third down. Goal to go and the Giants run outside, the center cannot hold his block but Brent is not going to catch that and its a TD. The team lost focus and gave themselves a letdown. Claiborne is awful versus the run here. Have to make that tackle.
Romo scrambles for the first down. Have to wonder if we see that again this year. Murray is having a good game. Witten cannot pass protect. Ogletree runs a weak route. Bailey is establishing his reputation.
On first down, Brent fails to get off a block on an inside run. The center finally makes a play. Brent uses a very unrefined On third down Hatcher roughs the passer. Yay replacement refs!
Well, if you know me at all then you know that I hate generalizations, especially emotional ones. I get the tepid response to be just that.
It really tells me absolutely nothing. It doesn't tell me how he deals with the power combo block on him. It doesn't tell me if he gets push. It doesn't tell me if he has any rush. That type of response, I can literally go either way on any guess and i might be right. It's lazy thinking.
So in the pursuit of truth and with a highly recommended NFLRewind account, I decide to take a look for myself.
Popped on the 2012 Game 1 @NYG. In case people are forgetting is what went on that season, I think of it as the beginning of the injury years that we are still in today. Ware was healthy for this game as were Lee and Carter but Ratliff was out for this game. Brent is going to get a lot of snaps this game and for much of the season.
First drive was a three and out. He is a 2 gap NT so his job first job is to hit the center. He only played two plays but on both he got push both times and they ran away from him. the second was on a stretch play. He does to me what looks like a good job shuffling his feet to the side to not muck up the line and shoving the center backwards. They run away from him. This center cannot single block him at the point of attack. Giants try to move their linemen back and forth. 3rd down was nickel and he isn't in it.
Second drive showed him taking on multiple blockers twice. On was another zone play where they doubled him on the move. He has very good feet and he got into position and got more push than they did. the other was the power combo, the OG had to stay home a tick before he disengaged and he managed hold his ground. On another play, he picks up the C and deposits him into Mannings lap. Manning throws it away. Manning is able to pick on Claiborne and Church on the right side for first downs but Wilson fumbles it away to us.
As an aside, I now remember why we were so down on Doug Free.
Third drive sees us in the second quarter, Marcus Spears and Sean Lissemore are getting snaps at NT. They get zero push but its a 3 and out nonetheless.
I miss Demarcus Ware but i don't miss Kevin OIgletree. Remember he was our third WR. Offense is struggling with Cook being forced into duty. Romo does not like pressure in his face and he throws a bad interception in the middle of the secondary that the Giants return to our 2 yard line.
This drive sees Brent defending the goal. First snap, he pushes the center a yard back on a run to the right side strung out for a two yard loss. Second, the center tries to submarine him but he just overwhelms it. When the run right tries to cut back, he is in the middle to make the tackle for a 2 yard loss. He is not in on 3rd and 6 but he helped get us there. Outstanding effort.
Next drive, Ryan is doing some of his hybrid fronts on first down but second down he is back in. Does a nice job sloughing the block and chasing down the line to get in on a tackle. He isn't in on 3rd and 8.
Bissacia puts out better ST than we had that year. Offense is just a comedy of errors. 6 penalties and Tyron is struggling to block JPP. Those days are hopefully over. Ogletree still sucks. Bryant can win on the 9 route. TD to Ogletree of all people.
I see that I feel a visceral loathing when seeing John Mara. Interesting.
Ryan is giving more weird looks and Brent isn't in them as time winds down. Only two plays and the half is over.
Miles Austin seems cooked. What on Earth happened to Felix Jones? A skinny legged Bryant is making plays. Witten battling through a spleen. I get the disrespect for Ogletree but you have to at least try to cover him. Webster takes a play off and Ogletree gets his second TD. Giants are playing like poo poo.
Coleman manning NT along with Spears and Lissemore to start the next drive. Replacement refs inexperience slowing the game down. in route on Claiborne gets first down. Brent is inserted while Collinsowrth talks about how defenses wear out and the running game can get going. That is not what i am seeing.
Now one thing that stands out to me that Brent needs to do a better job with is use his hands. there have been a couple of snaps where he just doesn't use them. He has a great body, he is kinda high cut but he is so wide he can stay low. He is like Zach Martin in that respect. He has really long arms but sometimes he just doesnt use them. Now he is explosive and this center is not playing exceptionally well but he will get up into the center and it looks like sea lions fighting.
Silva sucks at safety and a long completion on third down. Goal to go and the Giants run outside, the center cannot hold his block but Brent is not going to catch that and its a TD. The team lost focus and gave themselves a letdown. Claiborne is awful versus the run here. Have to make that tackle.
Romo scrambles for the first down. Have to wonder if we see that again this year. Murray is having a good game. Witten cannot pass protect. Ogletree runs a weak route. Bailey is establishing his reputation.
On first down, Brent fails to get off a block on an inside run. The center finally makes a play. Brent uses a very unrefined On third down Hatcher roughs the passer. Yay replacement refs!
