Rewatching Brent

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Which of the 5 starts in his 3 year career would you like me to review? I'll make a video tomorrow. The Giants?

I don't really care. You choose.

 

[CyberB0b]

I don't really care. You choose.

OK, I'll just look at the plays you mentioned in the OP and add a few more.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

OK, I'll just look at the plays you mentioned in the OP and add a few more.

Sounds good.

 

[Yuma Cactus]

 

[TheDude]

The point of the OP was to talk about specific examples of Brent's play. I really have been hoping that somebody would actually look at the games themselves and have a substantive discussion. Looks like that hope was in vain.

I queued up game 2 vs seattle. This is against Unger so better competition than Baas

Drive 1
- First play 1-1 with the Guard. He has inside leverage but somehow doesn't release and Lynch runs right by his shoulder for yards.
- Second play - off tackle trap. He goes down the line only giving a yard or so after getting a gaurd tackle combo block. not part of the play good effort. Unger somehow blocks him at the end past the whistle and a little push and shoving starts
- Third play. Unger got in his head from the previous play he gets an unnecessary roughness penalty
- last play - gets decent push and leverage up the middle

Drive 2
- PLay 1 - gets stood up pretty quick but holds ground on the double team. call it a win
- Play 2 - Best play yet. Pushes Unger back 2 yards and is going to shed Unger wherever Lynch commits. Lynch has to stop and Ware cleans up for no gain. Brent throws Unger down anyway. I like that
End of Q1

Drive 3
- Play 1 good push on Unger - 3 yards back. I notice that rarely do any of our lineman raise their hands when the QB is going to throw
- Play 2 - Doesnt handle double team well. Tries to spin move out of it getting in the way if DE trying to flow to the ball. Pass was INclomplete, but not a disciplined play for a NT

Drive 4
- Play 1 completely neutralized by cut block, though Wilson scrambled away from his side
- Play 2 Shows good power to move Unger, but seems to get preoccupied with Unger versus the ball. Lynch lost a big chunk from Ware, Lee and Carter, but Brent didnt seem to push toward the Ball but at Unger
- Play 3, again good push but doesnt have a move to get past the center. get unger to about 1 1/2 yards from Wilson, but then stalls

End of H1

Overall impression. Showed well against a really good Center. Doesnt get pushed like Lissemore or "Skates Hayden" last year (see NO game). Seems to have great strength when made, but doesn't channel it well. keeps good leverage and usually does what is asked of a NT. Not a world beater, but better than I expected before watching. Drives seemed to be less when he was in versus the ones he sat out the majority

H2 tomorrow.

 

[CCBoy]

And this means that he is serious again...thanks Yuma.

Mark is a jewel on info...

 

[burmafrd]

I happen to remember all the Costa homers slobbering all over him when he was able to compete against an injured Haloti Ngata. turned out to be his career highlight.

 

[xwalker]

Jay Ratliff played in 6 games in 2012. Josh Brent was his backup. Josh Brent only started in 5 games that season. I never claimed that Josh Brent was a talentless hack, just that he was never a premier player in the league. I think that is a pretty fair assessment. Did he have potential? Sure. A lot of that has now been wasted, however. Devoting resources to get a guy back to a fringe starter level is a waste of time and is counter productive, when even the 2012 version of Brent could easily be replaced.

Is he better than Nick Hayden? Probably, but that isn't really saying much, is it? The fact that Nick Hayden hasn't been supplanted by one of the guys we have brought in is more damning of our front office than anything. The sad truth is that we are pinning our hopes on a guy who was a C-D level talent in the league, who has been in prison for over a year. It reeks of desperation.

1 techniques aren't really all that important in this defense, and I think even Marinelli has stated something that echos this sentiment.

He was probably the starting NT in more than 5 games, but if the offense opens with 3 wide, he wouldn't be on the field. If you look at Rolando McClain's starts for 2012, you'll see the same issue. I know for certain that McClain was the starting MLB for more games than listed because he was not in on the Nickel package.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

My daddy says butane is a bastid gas!

I'll fight you!

When all energy sources end butane and nations are gasping for power, butane will power our yachts and underground bunkers and the above ground bars and entertainment parks so we won't bored. Ever buy a cig lighter or half a stalled buttress 4,000 below at the wellhead? Well, that is when butane come to the rescue!
The only worry is that the Bulgarians will control the world market and that is when i switch to propane.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

If Brent is re-signed, conceivably, halfway through the season, this could be the starting lineup:

Crawford - Brent - Melton - Lawrence

That actually looks like a legitimate NFL defensive line. Not dominant, mind you. Not great. But legitimate.

Is this not proof that our expectations for a defense half fallen farther than Ruben Studdard's career.
A legitimate defense to me is like last year's only worse.
When we get to the point that we are expectorating over Crawford - Brent - Melton - Lawrence, that's bad as a whole. Lawrence might shine. But that is it.
I weep for the future.