Richard Seymour-Being Traded to Oakland

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Rogah;2925266 said:
The thing that amazes me the most about the Patriots is how tight-lipped the entire organization is. This is not the first transaction they've made where nobody in the media had so much as a sniff of what was in the works beforehand.

When a player is vocal, Jerry pays, even if that player's on the tail end of his career. Just ask Ellis and TO. The Pats have no problem getting rid of problem players who are making contract demands in public. It's to the player's benefit to keep it low key.
 

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WOW the raiders are stupid as hell!...Somebody needs to get in there and stop the BS that is going on with the raiders. It's actually getting sad how that franchise is being run.
 

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commish should have vetoed this trade. reminds me of those awful FF trades that ruin leagues.
 

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big dog cowboy;2925222 said:
Probably not.

The Pats will trade down into the teens (and still pick the guy they want) and pick up a first rounder in 2012.

I'm feeling ill.

what's interesting is the set-up to develop a lot of youth on the team. They drafted 12 players this draft (four 2nd-rounders and twp 3rd-rounders) (plus undrafted guys) and something like 8 or 9 made the team with only one draft pick actually being cut (1 PUP and 2 IR). Next year they already have 3 2nd-rounders and they've already tacked this pick onto 2011 (unless it's traded shortly).

Nevertheless, i'm still concerned about the defense this year. they are so thin at LB and have so many new faces in the secondary.
 

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theogt;2925223 said:
Where does it say the Patriots are switching to a 4-3?
I've been reading on some other sites that they've been playing more 4-3 this preseason, so maybe that's where it's coming from.

I'll see if I can find a couple blurbs, but we're talking needle in the haystack research.

Edit: Guess not.


Patriots adding 4-3 elements to defense


Posted Aug. 22, 2009 @ 9:43 a.m.
By Matt Sohn
Bill Belichick has never been one to stand schematically pat, and his penchant to shake things up appears to be brewing in the front seven of the Patriots' defense. A longtime proponent of the 3-4 alignment, Belichick threw many for a loop in the preseason opener when he trotted out a four-man line and kept at it for the duration of the game. Does that mean the Patriots are abandoning their long-preferred scheme? Hardly. But the way we hear it, there will be a lot more variety in the "D" than the Pats have traditionally employed.

Much of the dabbling in the even-front relates to New England's pass-rushing difficulty. After racking up the second-best sack total (47) in the league in 2007, the club sank to a tie for 14th (31) last season. Because the personnel in the front seven hasn't changed significantly — save for the loss of OLB Mike Vrabel and the addition of DE-OLB Derrick Burgess — employing a more diverse game plan could revive the Pats' QB-takedown ways.

The Pats have dabbled with the four-man front in the past, most notably against the Colts in 2007. Deeming it necessary to get as much pressure on Peyton Manning as possible while also keeping many defensive backs in the secondary to cover the wideouts, New England went with a 4-2-5 alignment throughout the contest.

With enviable depth on the line and in the secondary and a dearth of proven ability at linebacker, Belichick has many believing that four-down-linemen, nickel looks will be heavily utilized again. A less LB-saturated lineup also fits well with the linebackers they do have, most notably Jerod Mayo. Belichick feels that the 2008 Defensive Rookie of the Year is a superstar in the making, and Belichick is intent on expanding his role in his sophomore campaign. After primarily manning the second level as a rookie, Mayo will be given more blitzing opportunities in '09, and his tremendous speed in pursuit will be better-utilized with fewer linebackers with whom to share the middle of the field.

The defensive line is in fine shape regardless of whether it has three or four players comprising it. DE Richard Seymour ranks among the league's more versatile linemen, boasting the strength and quickness to penetrate when shifted inside. The Pats have even more flexibility to do that with Seymour now that they have Burgess, who's at his best when given the green light to attack the quarterback off the edge.

http://profootballweekly.com/2009/08/22/patriots-adding-4-3-elements-to-defense
 

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I'm gonna be interested in seeing how the Pats defense does this season.
 

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It's amazing how much more intelligent Bill Belichick (and the Patriots organization) became on that fateful day when Mo Lewis knocked Drew Bledsoe into the middle of next week, paving the way for a young 6th round backup named Tom Brady to take the reigns.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2925158 said:
:muttley:

You never know, Crazy Al might do a Deangelo Hall and cut Seymour in a few months... Just in time for New England to sign him back for the playoffs.

And then trade him to Al again next year.

:laugh2:
 

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So, the Raiders still have their 2010 first-round pick?

Jerry should get on the phone with Al before somebody else does.

Jerry to Al: "Bobby Carpenter is as fast as hell. He's a bad-*** with a ponytail. Your fans will love him."
 

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2011 1st round pick. The Patriots no how to work the system and don't sign aging players to big contracts like Jones seems to like to do. They also have the patience to look long term and trade current 2nd round picks for future 1st round picks. Jerruh cold learn a lesson here.

In a move that sent shockwaves across the NFL, the Patriots traded five-time Pro Bowl defensive lineman Richard Seymour to the Oakland Raiders today in exchange for a 2011 first-round draft choice.
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Seymour, 29, was an integral part of the Patriots’ three Super Bowl championship teams.
“From nearly the day he arrived in 2001, Richard Seymour established himself as one of our premier players for nearly a decade,” Patriots coach Bill Belichick said in a statement. “His presence has been felt as a force on the field, a respected man off it, and a multi-year champion.
“Any transaction we make is with the goal of what is best for our team and, as difficult as it is to part ways with a player of Richard’s stature, many factors were taken into account when we considered this trade. As an organization, we feel the trade with Oakland brings sufficient value and is in the long-term interest of the club. We are extremely grateful for the huge impact Richard’s elite level of performance had on our success and we wish him the very best during the rest of his career.”
Seymour was entering the last year of his contract, and was due to make $3.685 million. That money now comes off the Patriots’ salary cap.
The Patriots have several key players with contracts set to expire after the season, and they might have weighed the likelihood of re-signing Seymour as part of their decision-making.
Eight-year veteran Jarvis Green, who has appeared in 108 regular-season games with 34 starts for the Patriots, projects as the top replacement for Seymour.
The Patriots have returning starters Ty Warren and Vince Wilfork on the defensive line, while five-year veteran Mike Wright and rookies Ron Brace (second round) and Myron Pryor (sixth round) are also part of the defensive line mix. The team has been experimenting with more four-man line schemes this preseason, so the versatility of all linemen could be tapped to replace Seymour, who led the team with eight sacks last season.
Wilfork's contract is due to expire after this season, and the Seymour trade could spark a resolution with his situation. Wilfork was one of several Patriots players Sunday who said they'd miss Seymour as both a friend and teammate.
"It is what it is. Don't get it twisted, it is a business and you have to move on," said Wilfork. "We will. As a defensive lineman, as a friend of his, as an organization and a team, we have to move on from it and we will. This is shocking, but at the same time that's the business side to it. That's nothing but business and you just move on from it. Forget how you feel about it. You have to deal with it."
 

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Genius. The Patriots understand how the NFL works. Seymour is great, but he'll be 30 this year and he gets injured too much. So what do you do? Hang on and extend him when he's about to be past his prime, or get what you can for him?

Well, we saw what the Pats did and we saw what our Fake GM did in a similar situation (Terence Newman).
 
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