Rico Gathers

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Gathers was a top-quality highly athletic,physical rebounder in college basketball.He was scouted by double digit teams before the draft.Those skills give him the ability to block,snag jump balls in the endzone and muscle in tight places.The fact that he has been lightly-used during the first two preseason games without any specific plays calling for him to display the skillset he already does have, is a tipoff to me that they decided in TC he needed to float through to PS and practice for 2017.His light use during garbage preseason time should be a tipoff that they are trying to float him through to PS.No film=no team willing to risk a 53 man roster spot=time to develop as Escobar and Swaim's chances play out.
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Gathers was a top-quality highly athletic,physical rebounder in college basketball.He was scouted by double digit teams before the draft.Those skills give him the ability to block,snag jump balls in the endzone and muscle in tight places.The fact that he has been lightly-used during the first two preseason games without any specific plays calling for him to display the skillset he already does have, is a tipoff to me that they decided in TC he needed to float through to PS and practice for 2017.His light use during garbage preseason time should be a tipoff that they are trying to float him through to PS.No film=no team willing to risk a 53 man roster spot=time to develop as Escobar and Swaim's chances play out.
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He maybe all that but IMHO he was a complete wasted pick. At present he is no where ready to contribute to this team and this team doesn't have the luxury of protecting this investment on their 53 men roster. So he'll go on PS and the other dozen teams that were interested will snatch him up when they are out of the playoff race and stash him on the 53 men roster to develop. Now we just lost our "developmental guy" and wasted a pick.
 

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He maybe all that but IMHO he was a complete wasted pick. At present he is no where ready to contribute to this team and this team doesn't have the luxury of protecting this investment on their 53 men roster. So he'll go on PS and the other dozen teams that were interested will snatch him up when they are out of the playoff race and stash him on the 53 men roster to develop. Now we just lost our "developmental guy" and wasted a pick.

I agree completely. We've seen time and time again teams trying to take basketball players and make them into TE's because of Antonio Gates.

What they seem to neglect is that Gates was an All-State football player in Michigan. And one-by-one, all of these basketball players without football experience, even at the high school level, fail miserably.

And here we draft a guy in Gaithers.

I understand that he was a 6th round pick and for the most part, 6th round picks never make it in the NFL. But, you would like to see the team at least have a player that has some chance of making it.





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I agree completely. We've seen time and time again teams trying to take basketball players and make them into TE's because of Antonio Gates.

What they seem to neglect is that Gates was an All-State football player in Michigan. And one-by-one, all of these basketball players without football experience, even at the high school level, fail miserably.

And here we draft a guy in Gaithers.

I understand that he was a 6th round pick and for the most part, 6th round picks never make it in the NFL. But, you would like to see the team at least have a player that has some chance of making it.





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Gates, Graham, Gonzalez, Julius Thomas, Jordan Cameron.... I completely understand why they would take a 6th round gamble to possible hit on a dominate Tight End. How many 6th round tight ends who never played basketball become good players? I would rather take measurables and hope to hit a homerun.
 

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I think they drafted him because they assumed some other team was going to take a gamble on talent before he got to UDFA. I could see the Hanna injury open a spot of him for a few weeks to get him into the season and be more likely to clear waivers to get to the PS.

They feared someone would take him and end up doing what we want to, develop him on the PS. We got him and will try to sell him on our system and the opportunity to develop on the PS.

No one is going to claim a guy who will be inactive every game. Most players don't want to be in that situation. A team gets a handful of injuries and you end up cut. For a developmental guy, you need to be in one spot for a good stretch.
 

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Gates, Graham, Gonzalez, Julius Thomas, Jordan Cameron.... I completely understand why they would take a 6th round gamble to possible hit on a dominate Tight End. How many 6th round tight ends who never played basketball become good players? I would rather take measurables and hope to hit a homerun.

Gates is the only meaningful comparison. Those other guys all played college football
 

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Gates, Graham, Gonzalez, Julius Thomas, Jordan Cameron.... I completely understand why they would take a 6th round gamble to possible hit on a dominate Tight End. How many 6th round tight ends who never played basketball become good players? I would rather take measurables and hope to hit a homerun.
Dominate TE? How many years down the line are we looking at for someone who didn't play college football? Right now he can't even block correctly.
The FO is too full of itself by taking too much risks with 2nd round pick and 6 round waste as if this team doesn't have holes or needs.
Rico MAY become a decent player but it'll take him years. He will be on PS and someone ELSE who's out of the playoff race will come and pluck him off our squad. Then we got nothing to show for the 6 round pick. Yes, I know it's a 6th round pick but occasionally you'll hit one too.
 

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Gates, Graham, Gonzalez, Julius Thomas, Jordan Cameron.... I completely understand why they would take a 6th round gamble to possible hit on a dominate Tight End. How many 6th round tight ends who never played basketball become good players? I would rather take measurables and hope to hit a homerun.

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Gates played high school football. In fact, he was All-State in Michigan.

Jimmy Graham played football at U. of Miami.

Julius Thomas played football at Portland State.

Jordan Cameron played both high school and college football.

Rico Gathers never played high school football. And the expectations are somehow the same. It's a terribly flawed thinking.



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Dominate TE? How many years down the line are we looking at for someone who didn't play college football? Right now he can't even block correctly.
The FO is too full of itself by taking too much risks with 2nd round pick and 6 round waste as if this team doesn't have holes or needs.
Rico MAY become a decent player but it'll take him years. He will be on PS and someone ELSE who's out of the playoff race will come and pluck him off our squad. Then we got nothing to show for the 6 round pick. Yes, I know it's a 6th round pick but occasionally you'll hit one too.
I prefer a dominant TE.
 

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Again...

Gates played high school football. In fact, he was All-State in Michigan.

Jimmy Graham played football at U. of Miami.

Julius Thomas played football at Portland State.

Jordan Cameron played both high school and college football.

Rico Gathers never played high school football. And the expectations are somehow the same. It's a terribly flawed thinking.



YR

Again its a 6th round pick
 

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Honestly, that was the worst attempt at blocking I've ever seen. He just leans on a guy with no hand work. Like he's never seen a game before.

Raw beyond raw.
 

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All this lamenting over "wasting a pick" on Gathers is completely misguided.

We had four 6th round picks this year; Gathers was the last of them; a supplemental pick. When your drafting guys in those late 6th-7th rounds you're looking for prospects with traits, not a complete or finished project.

If the Cowboys can get him on the practice squad...fantastic. If not, there shouldn't be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 

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For a guy with as little experience as he had I don't see what the problem was. He did a better job blocking than a lot of the guys around him did. The one where he was 'leaning' the DE slanted inside which gives a ton of players fits because the are expecting an outside move. He still managed to get his hands inside and his man was nowhere near the play. It wasn't pretty but I will take effective over pretty any day.

Maybe the footwork improves and maybe he doesn't but I saw him struggling to compete and not get his butt handed to him. By the verbiage bandied around I'd expect the guys that actually played college football to dominate. They didn't.
 

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Honestly, that was the worst attempt at blocking I've ever seen. He just leans on a guy with no hand work. Like he's never seen a game before.

Raw beyond raw.

Then you weren't paying attention to Mack and some of the other guys around him who were succeeding in stopping their charges less than he was.
 

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He has an uncalled false start on the 3rd and 18.



 
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