***Rip Garrett Thread***

[BourbonBalz]

Garrett is Romo's responsibility, and Romo is going to get Garrett fired some day if Garrett doesn't get control of him.

How does a team up 24 points in the second half end (playing at home) up passing 47 times? How? Only in Dallas could that happen. That should have been at least a 40 attempt rushing game for the Cowboys. The rushing attempts, alone, probably would have won the game. Long runs happen in the 4th quarter when teams get tired and desperate. The Cowboys were starting to open up some nice holes and cutback lanes, but Dallas abandoned the run with a big lead. Why? I guess so Tony Romo could play Tecmo Bowl.

Tecmo Bowl is not winning football.

Felix Jones had 155 total yards last week and had 115 yards rushing and one long run called back... After Romo's second pick six today, those holes and cutback lanes started to close, because the Lions had new life and were back in the game.

The Lions looked ready to be run all over, but the Cowboys got too pass happy with a big lead. Unacceptable, and the defensive coordinator can't be happy.

Buddy Ryan would be looking to punch an offensive coach in the face.

Yes, yes, and yes. Garrett and Romo **** the bed.

 

[Kevinicus]

I'll just say this. Anyone that faults any part of today's loss on the defense is a........., well I won't say it so I won't get banned.

And anyone who DOESN'T fault them at all is...not an intelligent person.

 

[BourbonBalz]

And anyone who DOESN'T fault them at all is...not an intelligent person.

Did you watch the game? Based on your posts, I don't think so. Half of the Lion's points came directly from our stupid play calling. Not running the ball, AND throwing risky passes cost us this game. If you can't see that, I really have no reason to waste any time responding to you again.

 

[Randy White]

I'm not sure where you're getting those numbers from, but you're wrong. Our backs carried 13 times for 48 yards in the second half for a 3.7 average.

I got it from the play by play website at BSPN, but I even if yours are correct, the whopping 2 carries and 17 yards difference wouldn't have made one in the game.

So we have the ball with 4:22 left. If we run on first and second down and just get our 3.7 average for the half, we eat a minute and a half off the clock and set up a very manageable 3rd and short. You get a first down there and the ballgame is over. Isn't that easy? Well, apparently it isn't for Jason "XBox 360" Garrett.

Oh sure..it's " that easy ".. Right before that particular time you're pointing out ( 4:22 ), the Cowboys had ran the ball for 1 yard, 1 yard, 5 yards, 1 yard, and 1 yard in 2 previous drives, so although it might have been " easy " for you, it obviously wasn't " easy " for the Cowboys.

Too much can go wrong throwing on first down there. You've got an erratic QB who has already made two huge mistakes. Even if he doesn't throw a pick, an incompletion stops the clock and puts you in a tough spot on 2nd and 10. The risk outweighs the reward on a play call like that so much that it's ridiculous. Want to call that play on your Madden video game? Fine, but in real life? Idiocy.

Too much can go wrong running on first downs too. You've got a developing O-line with 3, at best, middle of the road running backs who had shown couldn't get more than 9 yards 5 carries in the two previous drives.

Bottom line is that ANY coach puts the ball on who's supposed to be his best players' hands and trust them. Tony Romo is a better player than Felix Jones, Demarco Murray, Tashard Choice, and any of the 5 starting offensive linemen for the Dallas Cowboys. Tony Romo should have KNOWN better than to make the stupid mistake that he did, but because he had one of his " blond " moment, the team lost.

Blaming this on Garrett's play calling is utterly ridiculous. He didn't go from a genius with a 27-3 lead to an idiot with a 34-30 loss in 30 minutes.

 

[Kevinicus]

Did you watch the game? Based on your posts, I don't think so. Half of the Lion's points came directly from our stupid play calling. Not running the ball, AND throwing risky passes cost us this game. If you can't see that, I really have no reason to waste any time responding to you again.

And 20 came by the defense not making a stop. 151 yds and 17 pts in the last 15:37. A 13 point lead in the 4th quarter, AND THIS WAS AFTER THE INT RETURNS!! Only an idiot thinks they don't deserve some of the blame.

I've bolded it to make it simpler to understand.

 

[Randy White]

its called common sense. No need to keep pushing and taking risks up 24 points.

Then e-mail the Patriots, Packers, Saints, just to name a few, with this idea because apparently they don't have common sense either.

 

[28 Joker]

Does anyone think the Lions would have beaten the Giants today if they were down by 24 on the road?

No way. The Giants would have turned the game over to the running game and the defense. The clock would have been burned, and the Giants would have run all over the Lions in the second half. They would have gotten their rushing attempts in, because the "hard work" was over.

Points come at a premium in the NFL, and you never know when a player like Sensabaugh will get hurt. When Sensabaugh got hurt, the Loins started to exploit the coverage. However, Stafford was gifted 14 points and a short field for the last TD.

This is not on the defense. Romo was the Lions' best friend today, and Garrett has to get Romo to understand that he can't be the main reason for losing games.

This is Garrett's catch 22, because Romo is who he is, especially at this point in his career. Romo has demonstrated in the first 4 games that he can't even be trusted when the game should be in the bag.

I'd be looking to draft another QB next year, and McGee should be given consideration at this point and the near future. Perhaps, drafting a QB to compete with McGee would be a start. The QB can't continue to cost you ball games.

Up 30-27, Romo still couldn't help himself. He just had to throw up another Tecmo Bowl pass. That was ridiculous. That will get the head coach fired, eventually.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Does anyone think the Lions would have beaten the Giants today if they were down by 24 on the road?

No way. The Giants would have turned the game over to the running game and the defense. The clock would have been burned, and the Giants would have run all over the Lions in the second half. They would have gotten their rushing attempts in, because the "hard work" was over.

Points come at a premium in the NFL, and you never know when a player like Sensabaugh will get hurt. When Sensabaugh got hurt, the Loins started to exploit the coverage. However, Stafford was gifted 14 points and a short field for the last TD.

This is not on the defense. Romo was the Lions' best friend today, and Garrett has to get Romo to understand that he can't be the main reason for losing games.

This is Garrett's catch 22, because Romo is who he is, especially at this point in his career. Romo has demonstrated in the first 4 games that he can't even be trusted when the game should be in the bag.

I'd be looking to draft another QB next year, and McGee should be given consideration at this point and the near future. Perhaps, drafting a QB to compete with McGee would be a start. The QB can't continue to cost you ball games.

Up 30-27, Romo still couldn't help himself. He just had to throw up another Tecmo Bowl pass. That was ridiculous. That will get the head coach fired, eventually.

The Giants would have enough sense to give it to Bradshaw and Jacobs and force the Lions to prove that they can stop the run, just Garrett doesn't even try.

What us the use of having RB's if you aren't going to use them like you are suppose to in the 2nd half with a Big Lead.

 

[Miller]

And 20 came by the defense not making a stop. 151 yds and 17 pts in the last 15:37. A 13 point lead in the 4th quarter, AND THIS WAS AFTER THE INT RETURNS!! Only an idiot thinks they don't deserve some of the blame.

I've bolded it to make it simpler to understand.

You don't seem the understand the concept of momentum and keeping teams down. Seriously, you seem more interested in belittling people.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Then e-mail the Patriots, Packers, Saints, just to name a few, with this idea because apparently they don't have common sense either.

Because they did it doesn't mean that Garrett his to follow their lead and plus they don't have QB's making stupid decisions up big.

 

[Cochese]

What are we, 30th in the redzone? Ivy league brilliant attention to detail.

 

[BourbonBalz]

And 20 came by the defense not making a stop. 151 yds and 17 pts in the last 15:37. A 13 point lead in the 4th quarter, AND THIS WAS AFTER THE INT RETURNS!! Only an idiot thinks they don't deserve some of the blame.

I've bolded it to make it simpler to understand.

Our offense gave Detroit all the momentum. Our defense had absolutely shut them completely down prior to the two pick sixes. You actually going to argue against that? REally? Did you actually expect our defense to shut out an offensive team like Detroit for four quarters? The defense rose to the occasion and did their job. The offense did too, for 30 minutes. This loss is on Garrett and Romo, period.

 

[Picksix]

Did you watch the game? Based on your posts, I don't think so. Half of the Lion's points came directly from our stupid play calling. Not running the ball, AND throwing risky passes cost us this game. If you can't see that, I really have no reason to waste any time responding to you again.

No, you'd be better off just seeing what you want to see, because that's what really intelligent, insightful people do. I did watch the game, and I saw a defense that fell apart just as the offense did.

 

[Kevinicus]

You don't seem the understand the concedpt of momentum and keeping teams down. Seriously, you seem more interested in belittling people.

I'm belittling people? Really? Pay attention.

What some of you don't seem to understand is that Detroit didn't have a ton of momentum going after the score was taken to 30-17. They had more than they had earlier, but they weren't rolling on it. And momentum is not an excuse to not perform. The momentum really kicked up for Detroit when they got their first TD to Calvin Johnson and got within one score.

 

[Tenkamenin]

The Giants would have enough sense to give it to Bradshaw and Jacobs and force the Lions to prove that they can stop the run, just Garrett doesn't even try.

What us the use of having RB's if you aren't going to use them like you are suppose to in the 2nd half with a Big Lead.

The Giants actually have an effective power running game. That is the difference, all year we've shown that when we needed the yards we have been unable to pick them up.

I can understand why we rely on the short passing game and screens to pick up those short yards. I don't think they were boneheaded calls on Garretts part, Romo just made some bad throws. Had Romo's body been properly planted he would've completed a magnificent pass to Witten. All around this falls on Romo to me, poor throws.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

I'm belittling people? Really? Pay attention.

What some of you don't seem to understand is that Detroit didn't have a ton of momentum going after the score was taken to 30-17. They had more than they had earlier, but they weren't rolling on it. And momentum is not an excuse to not perform. The momentum really kicked up for Detroit when they got their first TD to Calvin Johnson and got within one score.

The Two pick sixes for sure gave them life and helped make them believe that they could come back

 

[BourbonBalz]

And 20 came by the defense not making a stop. 151 yds and 17 pts in the last 15:37. A 13 point lead in the 4th quarter, AND THIS WAS AFTER THE INT RETURNS!! Only an idiot thinks they don't deserve some of the blame.

I've bolded it to make it simpler to understand.

By the way, you can't fault the defense for 20 points because one of those scores came after Romo's THIRD interception. That is on Romo and Garrett, just like the two pick sixes. You also seemed to have forgotten the 3 or 7 points the offense left on the field when we couldn't gain a half a yard early in the game. You fail in every sense of the word.

 

[Kevinicus]

Our offense gave Detroit all the momentum. Our defense had absolutely shut them completely down prior to the two pick sixes. You actually going to argue against that? REally? Did you actually expect our defense to shut out an offensive team like Detroit for four quarters? The defense rose to the occasion and did their job. The offense did too, for 30 minutes. This loss is on Garrett and Romo, period.

They shut them down for 2 quarters and then dropped an egg in the last quarter.

Fact: The defense collapsed in the 4th quarter. I don't care how good the offense is (They're not all that either btw), 17 pts and 151 yards in crunch time is not acceptable. Why is that so hard to understand? It's football 101.

 

[Miller]

I'm belittling people? Really? Pay attention.

What some of you don't seem to understand is that Detroit didn't have a ton of momentum going after the score was taken to 30-17. They had more than they had earlier, but they weren't rolling on it. And momentum is not an excuse to not perform. The momentum really kicked up for Detroit when they got their first TD to Calvin Johnson and got within one score.

I'm not saying the D didn't give up the points but it all boils down to time and place. You have a team 27-3 and they have zero spark. Their own coach said they weren't in the game until the interception returns. If your coach and QB protect the ball when there is no momentum then they might have just stayed where they were. Once a free 14 are on the board their mindset is "we have a shot." The Lions said as much postgame. Then you start gioving them short fields and the D is having to bail out the offense. The last TD was off another horrible playcall/pass that game them another short field. All of this is reality. The Ds late play has to be looked at as a whole with what the offense and Romo did to keep putting a top offense in a position to comeback. That is football 101. The offense of Detroit doesn't get on a roll if they aren't give 2 TDs to put them in a position to be more aggressive vs coming back on their own for 4 scores.

 

[Kevinicus]

By the way, you can't fault the defense for 20 points because one of those scores came after Romo's THIRD interception. That is on Romo and Garrett, just like the two pick sixes. You also seemed to have forgotten the 3 or 7 points the offense left on the field when we couldn't gain a half a yard early in the game. You fail in every sense of the word.

I can fault them for letting the team march down 40 yards and get the points. You do realize this is a TEAM game right? All phases are connected.

Detroit still had to move the ball ON THE DEFENSE to get those points. THEY STILL HAVE A JOB TO DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bang2: