Risers/ fallers

[Pants]

St Brown I think helped himself

 

[AbeBeta]

Gogan was "over sized" as well. Not saying I really want to target the kid, just talking value if he were to slip a bit, which he probably will.

Gogan was only three inches taller than his QB.

Brown would be half a foot taller than Dak. That can mess with your passing game

 

[kskboys]

Reps are overrated...top 2 alltime neither made a pro bowl

Worse than that. Since short armed guys have a huge advantage in the bench due to pure physics, the guys who are doing the most reps may have a disadvantage due to short arms.

 

[Leadbelly]

QB-Mason Rudolph
I feel like he threw better than all of the guys who were talked about as RD1 targets. If I was drafting at the top of RD1 I wouldn't be looking at any of them. They were spraying it all over. He looked worth developing.

WR-Courtland Sutton
I don't know if he really rose, but I expected him to fall some and turned out to being a very good athlete worth a late first to early second rounder. Much faster than expected. Top 4 in his position group in short shuttle, long shuttle, cone. For a big WR, he has outstanding change of direction and agility. Vertical, broad, and bench were good. And then he caught the ball extremely well too.

WR-Dylan Cantrell
I think he's more in the category of 'Need to Watch More'. Definitely wasn't on my radar.

 

[DiResta]

Reps are overrated...top 2 alltime neither made a pro bowl

true, it doesnt make him a probowler
the reps dont define the player but i would feel better drafting Vea with 41 reps vs say he did only 19
he definitely didnt hurt his draft stock

 

[dfense]

Vea approaching God Tier with 41 reps of 225
tomorrow he will run a 4.4 40 and dare anyone to call him a liar

5.11

 

[DFWJC]

Drafttec updated their big board today with post draft rankings

Some Top 100 Big Risers (vs where they had them rated pre-combine)
-Mike Gesicki
-DJ Chark
-Josh Allen
-Christian Kirk


Some Top 100 Big Fallers
-Mason Rudolph
-Orlando Brown
-Maurice Hurst
-Derius Guice
-Billy Price

Other risers (non top 100)
-Scott Quessenberry
-Justin Jackson
-Joe Noteboom

Other non top 100 fallers
-Akrum Wadley

 

[Alexander]

Some Top 100 Big Fallers
-Mason Rudolph
-Orlando Brown
-Maurice Hurst
-Derius Guice
-Billy Price

They are putting Guice into this category, I don't know what to say.

He did not blow the doors off, but to put him in there with the injured and a loser like Brown lacks perspective.

Their rankings were weird to begin with. And if they yank a player up 50 points or whatever basically tells me they are a barometer of opinion, not about analysis.

 

[DiResta]

5.11

Vea walks up and smashes you up against the wall with his gut
"I said
I ran a 4.46"

 

[DFWJC]

They are putting Guice into this category, I don't know what to say.

He did not blow the doors off, but to put him in there with the injured and a loser like Brown lacks perspective.

Their rankings were weird to begin with. And if they yank a player up 50 points or whatever basically tells me they are a barometer of opinion, not about analysis.

Yeah, they had some odd rankings...as do many services.

This was not a list of winners and losers, but an updated ranking.

As for Guice, its relative to where they had him before.
They had him VERY high a d he is still 26....which is higher than most have him
Do you think 26 is too low for Guice?

 

[cnuball21]

Can we talk about Harold Landry's 10 yard split of 1.59?

Better than Miller, Ware, Garrett, and pretty much everyone...nuts.

 

[cnuball21]

Can we talk about Harold Landry's 10 yard split of 1.59?

Better than Miller, Ware, Garrett, and pretty much everyone...nuts.

GO ahead and tack on a 6.88 3 cone.

1st round lock now, and I'd be more than happy to take him at 19 if he's there.

 

[unionjack8]

They are putting Guice into this category, I don't know what to say.

He did not blow the doors off, but to put him in there with the injured and a loser like Brown lacks perspective.

Their rankings were weird to begin with. And if they yank a player up 50 points or whatever basically tells me they are a barometer of opinion, not about analysis.

Tough be labelled arrow down due to unjury

 

[Alexander]

Nathan Shepherd DE Fort Hayes St.... Having a nice combine. Riser

He was very smooth. Now good luck finding much in terms of Fort Hays footage on Youtube. Not that it would tell you much anyways.

 

[McKDaddy]

Can we talk about Harold Landry's 10 yard split of 1.59?

Better than Miller, Ware, Garrett, and pretty much everyone...nuts.

Going to make 3-4 teams salivate. Hope someone falls in love and picks him before us so a need falls to us.

 

[cnuball21]

Going to make 3-4 teams salivate. Hope someone falls in love and picks him before us so a need falls to us.

I'd be more than happy to take him as a RE.

He's about the same size as Lawrence was as a prospect but a better athlete.

 

[RS12]

Some red flags are raised like with Orlando Brown. Decent tape. Obvious terrible work ethic.

I think I heard somebody mention yesterday he weighed a svelte 415 lbs in high school. Sounds like he has never had a great work ethic. Worse than his work out was coaches getting on him for loafing through the drills. He'd have to drop a long way before I'd even consider him. He has bust and out of the league in 3 years written all over him.

 

[sdfidaho]

GO ahead and tack on a 6.88 3 cone.

1st round lock now, and I'd be more than happy to take him at 19 if he's there.

#19 is getting more interesting by the day.
Please go defense. It's looking like there will be some real studs to choose from.

 

[cnuball21]

#19 is getting more interesting by the day.
Please go defense. It's looking like there will be some real studs to choose from.

Vea
Payne
Smith
Edmunds
James
Landry

Will one fall?

 

[conner01]

No one’s stock may have taken a bigger hit than hurst
A heart issue is gonna scare lots of teams
To me reps on the bench in itself are not a big thing. You can make a guy stronger. It does show a lack of commitment in the weight room tough and being slow as a turtle on top of that will hurt him I think