Rolando McClain Negotiations Not Good

Sportsbabe

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Where on earth did I call him average and "not worth the trouble?" You're just making up stuff to argue now.

And tell me again, why was he sitting on a couch for two years? And how did he "earn" that starting MLB job? Keep the hits coming.
Recognize hyperbole and don't take every word literally. And with all due respect, your 2nd paragraph question forces me to tag out of this conversation because it's a moot point and the standby go to issue that has nothing to do with his production and importance to this team last year.
 

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Recognize hyperbole and don't take every word literally. And with all due respect, your 2nd paragraph question forces me to tag out of this conversation because it's a moot point and the standby go to issue that has nothing to do with his production and importance to this team last year.

Hyperbole isn't making up things to fit your argument. You might need a dictionary.

And with all due respect, you brought it up. Not me. I think it's pretty funny you can use certain points to defend the player you're a self-proclaimed "groupie" for, but you "check out" when I rebuttle that argument with the exact same reference. If you can't refute the point by anything other than diversion and deflection, that just further proves its validity.

I have no problem with legitimate debate and even arguing, but you're just hen pecking what you want and ignoring huge swaths of what is being posted and argued. That's not debating, that's being sensitive and defensive.
 

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That is a non-apology if I ever saw one. You implied he was trolling because he had the nerve to disagree with your opinion. I made a simple recommendation, take it any way you want.

Huh.. If you go back and read the post, you'll see he that he wasn't disagreeing with me in the first place. He was talking to another member. Its clear some are here to strictly argue with fellow members, so I will not respond to your post again. I also will not waste another key stroke trying to explain that I didn't mean anything personal by my post. Its obvious what your doing.. so have a better day.
 

texbumthelife

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Huh.. If you go back and read the post, you'll see he that he wasn't disagreeing with me in the first place. He was talking to another member. Its clear some are here to strictly argue with fellow members, so I will not respond to your post again. I also will not waste another key stroke trying to explain that I didn't mean anything personal by my post. Its obvious what your doing.. so have a better day.

I didn't take it personal bud. Don't sweat it. I enjoy the debate. As a fan, I appreciate the passion other fans show. Even if i don't agree with it.
 

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Hyperbole isn't making up things to fit your argument. You might need a dictionary.

And with all due respect, you brought it up. Not me. I think it's pretty funny you can use certain points to defend the player you're a self-proclaimed "groupie" for, but you "check out" when I rebuttle that argument with the exact same reference. If you can't refute the point by anything other than diversion and deflection, that just further proves its validity.

Do you honestly think you're capable of having a sound debate about McClain's merits?

One last thing, some charming poster called me a groupie during the football season so that's where that comes from. For the record, I'm a Cowboys groupie...just so you know. :star:

You're right about the sitting at home thing. Just take that phrase out of my argument and leave the rest...but I'm sure that makes no difference to you. I've got this weird feeling that you NEED the last word.

The floor is yours.
 

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He hasn't visited with anyone. Nice sarcastic barb though. It really propelled your argument.

We are about to enter the third week of Free Agency. Some of you posited that McClain was elite status last year. Since when do "elite" level players, particularly linebackers, last until the third week of free agency with not even so much as a visit with another team?

I am not saying McClain isn't a good linebacker. I am not even saying I don't want him. I am just saying, he isn't this almighty savior of the defense some of you paint him to be. And he certainly wasn't the single handed "identity changer" of the defense. That's absolute rubbish and a disservice to several other key contributors--Crawford's name immediately comes to mind.

In all fairness, anytime Rolando wasn't on the field for us : our defense was significantly worse.
 

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One last thing, some charming poster called me a groupie during the football season so that's where that comes from. For the record, I'm a Cowboys groupie...just so you know. :star:

You're right about the sitting at home thing. Just take that phrase out of my argument and leave the rest...but I'm sure that makes no difference to you. I've got this weird feeling that you NEED the last word.

The floor is yours.

That is the third time you've tried to make this a personal issue. I don't get it. I am just debating with you. That is kind of what this message board is for. If you just want to voice your opinions and ignore other rational arguments, you may want to try a blog instead.
 

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In all fairness, anytime Rolando wasn't on the field for us : our defense was significantly worse.

It was definitely not as good. How significant that drop-off was, is somewhat debatable. He was largely replaced by Hitchens, a rookie, when not in the lineup so it's hard to say how much of that drop-off was the loss of McClain and how much of it was the learning curve for a rookie.

Make no mistake, I am not saying having McClain on the field didn't make us a better defense. I am just saying, there are a lot of qualifiers to the argument other than just not having him on the field.

There really is no way to know how much just losing him impacted the defense. They don't play in a vacuum.
 

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According to Mike Fisher McClain is wanting way to much money , and there may be a rift right now. Deal isn't close.

Sorry this guy is just too much of a headcase for me. I say don't re-sign him. I didn't like the way he ended the season at all and he seems soft . Wasn't giving 100%.

Who cares. Hitchens can fill in just fine.
 

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We can't lose Mr Cray Cray!! Ahh this thread is killing the summer of George and it's only spring...:eek:
 

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In all fairness to Rolando McClain, the Cowboys really didn't do him any favors when he returned. They asked him to come in and participate in camp right away without any conditioning drills or easing his transition back into football.

All that said he filled a huge need in the LB corps, and McClain did his job and he did it well early on in the season.

Late in the year he dropped of the cliff because of all those nagging injuries, but he still kept trying to play. He easily could have pulled a Chris Borland and left the team but as a fan I admire that he stuck with it even though he became unreliable in the last few games.

I can't blame the guy for trying to get the most money on what will likely be his final contract when he decided to play football again because his sons wanted him to.
 
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