Romo’s trade value may not be worth as much as you think

[SuspectCorner]

And let's not get carried away with ourselves overestimating the Cowboys obligations to Tony Romo. Tony has been one of the most spectacularly recompensed athletes in all of sports over the last nigh-on-two seasons (27-games-and-counting) and enjoyed one of the best seats in the house on game day - all while contributing to only four more of those twenty-seven team efforts than either you or I.

It's a two-way street. Just sayin'.

 

[Kaiser]

It really only takes more than one team bidding for Tony Romo's services to drive his value up. And the more players in the 'Romo sweepstakes' the higher that value will go.

That's exactly it. The trade isn't for what reporters are saying or the average of every GM's opinion - the trade is for the highest bid. Its just like the draft, Goff didn't go with the first pick because there was a consensus about his value, he went #1 overall because the Rams outbid everyone for that pick in a trade.

And as @xwalker pointed out, Romo's salary will be a bargain for the team that acquires him (health permitting) because Dallas assumes the hit for his signing bonus. A team trading for him gets Romo for 3 years at 54 Milllion with a 2017 cap hit of 14 Million. That will be tied for 22nd in the league among QBs behind Jay Cutler (16MM), Brock Osweiller (19MM) Ryan Tannehill (20MM) and Matt Stafford (24MM).

 

[Nightman]

Do you know the difference between opinion and fact? That's what you would do, but more than likely not what this team would do as financially making a move earlier would benefit them more. I think he ends up getting cut before June, unless a team jumps in with a great offer.

Don't condescend me and then serve up nonsense

 

[T-RO]

Here are the huge factors that narrow down the field of trade candidates.

1. Tony has the equivalent of a no-trade contract. He will just flat retire if a trading partner is not to his liking. Any trading partner must be competitive, must have a good line and some weapons to work with.

2. A lot of teams are happy with their quarterback or have already invested heavily in young quarterbacks that will require teams to play things out and see what they have.

3. A number of GM s will be dissuaded by Tony's age and multiple back surgeries....to the point where they won't even throw their hat in the ring.

4. Even if Romo were a free agent...the price is incredibly stiff, and most (all?) will find it either impossible or very challenging for to make it work from a salary cap perspective. The $24 million price-tag is ultra, ultra tough to digest.

5. Romo may easily decide with his home in Dallas and family in Dallas...that he wants to retire.

I'd be mildly surprised at any trade, but if one is made...all these considerations will drive down the trade value to something approximating a middle round selection...with maybe some bonus pick or upgraded pick for 12-16 games played or playoff performance.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

There is no way the Cowboys would get anything close to that. The list of teams willing to make any trade is short enough already. Asking that for Romo would narrow the list to no teams and make him untradable.

That's what you think. Unless you are in charge of all the teams trying to trade then you don't know just like I don't. Bradford can't stay healthy and cost a number 1........I see no reason why Romo couldn't get a 3rd with it. Thanks for playing

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Here are the huge factors that narrow down the field of trade candidates.

1. Tony has the equivalent of a no-trade contract. He will just flat retire if a trading partner is not to his liking. Any trading partner must be competitive, must have a good line and some weapons to work with.

2. A lot of teams are happy with their quarterback or have already invested heavily in young quarterbacks that will require teams to play things out and see what they have.

3. A number of GM s will be dissuaded by Tony's age and multiple back surgeries....to the point where they won't even throw their hat in the ring.

4. Even if Romo were a free agent...the price is incredibly stiff, and most (all?) will find it either impossible or very challenging for to make it work from a salary cap perspective. The $24 million price-tag is ultra, ultra tough to digest.

5. Romo may easily decide with his home in Dallas and family in Dallas...that he wants to retire.

I'd be mildly surprised at any trade, but if one is made...all these considerations will drive down the trade value to something approximating a middle round selection...with maybe some bonus pick or upgraded pick for 12-16 games played or playoff performance.

I doubt his wife wants to move and relocate their kids to another school (in another state). Not like they need the money for Tony to keep playing. His wife I think is from Texas. Unless it's a contending team like Denver (which Tony prefers). It has to be the right position for he and his family.

 

[T-RO]

That's what you think. Unless you are in charge of all the teams trying to trade then you don't know just like I don't. Bradford can't stay healthy and cost a number 1........I see no reason why Romo couldn't get a 3rd with it. Thanks for playing

Bradford came with a $7million cap hit this season. Romo will come with a $24 million hit next season. That's an insane amount of money for a guy who will be 37 with major lingering health issues.

I doubt his wife wants to move and relocate their kids to another school (in another state). Not like they need the money for Tony to keep playing. His wife I think is from Texas. Unless it's a contending team like Denver (which Tony prefers). It has to be the right position for he and his family.

And if there is only one location that makes sense for Tony...that team will just wait it out and sign Romo as a free agent.

 

[Sydla]

Don't believe it. GM's right now aren't going to give a true value, they don't want to raise the cost.

Depends on the GM. If they asked a GM who already has a QB, he has no reason to lie and downplay his value.

People are forgetting that Romo is an older QB coming off essentially two completely lost seasons. So I think the notion that you are getting top notch return on a QB who is near the end of his career and hasn't really played in 2 years could very well be a stretch.

I once thought a first rounder could be a possibility but when you look at it logically, the more likely scenario is probably some mid to late round picks with one possibly being conditional where it might end up being as a high as a 2nd rounder.

 

[Sydla]

I think it's as high as a 1st but there are just too many variables to know.

If teams think the Cowboys are definitely moving on from him then the value goes down. The Eagles were content to keep Bradford which increased his value.

How many teams want him? Two or more and the value goes up. Teams generally know if other teams are in the mix on this type of trade.

Does Romo want to keep playing if he has to go to another team? He would have to be all-in when meeting with other teams for them to want to trade for him.

Do the Cowboys let emotion get in the way of making the best deal? They can't wait until summer time to decide that they are not keeping him. I'm sure McClay and Stephen will want to move on and get a pick but Jerry tends to get attached to players.

REmember though that Bradford was the starter. The Eagles were content to let Wentz sit and learn this year like they had done with McNabb. The Vikes made it worth their while to move him. That dynamic isn't at work here as Prescott is the starter and Romo is just a backup.

 

[Bullflop]

I wouldn't seriously consider anything less than a 3rd round pick for Romo. That's in consideration of the fact that he could likely provide capable help for us as a backup. Of course, the recent problems with his back probably wouldn't inspire 1st or 2nd round consideration, imho. It's obviously something that would remain to be worked out by the teams concerned.

Needless to say, it's also possible that his pricey current contract isn't likely to aid his cause. Something would expected by another team to make a trade more palatable in consideration of that fact. Anyhow, right now, GMs of other teams are likely to say anything to suggest an inclination to propose an understated trade offer. Nothing surprising about that. I do believe Romo won't be satisfied to spend the remainder of his days as our backup, though. He's already made known his desire to play during his press conference. I'm of a mind that he'll be pushing for a trade in 2017.

 

[Chuck 54]

If we can get a 2nd or third for Tony, and he likes it, he will be gone so fast it will make your head spin. Retirement is not a good deal for us...we want him to leave with someone else picking up a part of what he's owed. You do not want two #1 QBs. Sanchez is the ideal backup QB, and you can keep Moore as well.

Finds like Dak in round 4 will give some teams pause this year about trading a top pick for Romo.

 

[BAZ]

Don't condescend me and then serve up nonsense

Too late

 

[xwalker]

Here are the huge factors that narrow down the field of trade candidates.

1. Tony has the equivalent of a no-trade contract. He will just flat retire if a trading partner is not to his liking. Any trading partner must be competitive, must have a good line and some weapons to work with.

2. A lot of teams are happy with their quarterback or have already invested heavily in young quarterbacks that will require teams to play things out and see what they have.

3. A number of GM s will be dissuaded by Tony's age and multiple back surgeries....to the point where they won't even throw their hat in the ring.

4. Even if Romo were a free agent...the price is incredibly stiff, and most (all?) will find it either impossible or very challenging for to make it work from a salary cap perspective. The $24 million price-tag is ultra, ultra tough to digest.

5. Romo may easily decide with his home in Dallas and family in Dallas...that he wants to retire.

I'd be mildly surprised at any trade, but if one is made...all these considerations will drive down the trade value to something approximating a middle round selection...with maybe some bonus pick or upgraded pick for 12-16 games played or playoff performance.

Technically he would owe the Cowboys a large amount of money if he retires because of his signing bonus. Jerry might not make him pay back the prorated portion of the bonus, but he could.

Where did you get 24M? His salary for 2017 is 14M. The remaining money you see on his projected cap hit is bonus money that has already been paid and does not affect the nrw team.

 

[xwalker]

If we can get a 2nd or third for Tony, and he likes it, he will be gone so fast it will make your head spin. Retirement is not a good deal for us...we want him to leave with someone else picking up a part of what he's owed. You do not want two #1 QBs. Sanchez is the ideal backup QB, and you can keep Moore as well.

Finds like Dak in round 4 will give some teams pause this year about trading a top pick for Romo.

It does not work that way on the money.

The Cowboys don't owe him anything if he is cut or retires. In fact he would owe the Cowboys if he retires.

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

If we have to eat the signing bonus, how much cap room does a trade actually net us?

 

[xwalker]

I'm keeping Romo if your only getting a 3-4-5-6-7 rd pick. Qb's are too hard to find. Especially, having a top 10 qb like Romo is when healthy.

His salary is too high for a backup.

 

[xwalker]

If we have to eat the signing bonus, how much cap room does a trade actually net us?

5M extra cap space in 2017.

His 2018 and 2019 cap hits of 25M and 24M will be gone.

 

[xwalker]

That's a FACT my friend. Why should we give him away? My gosh, it'd be crazy to trade him for a mid to late round pick. He isn't causing any problems and frankly, we don't OWE him anything: including getting traded to a contender. I'd keep him next season for sure, unless someone blows us away with an offer (#1 or high #2 would do it)

Too expensive for a backup.

 

[xwalker]

Serious question- who in the Cowboys org works the phone and negotiates the trades for this team?

Will McClay.

 

[xwalker]

The better Dak gets the lower Romo's value becomes. He has probably practically destroyed it already.....

Why?