Romo and Dak based on Raw Ability

[ArtClink]

Please stop it
What did Romo win with all this “talent”

Bubcus
Zilch
Nada
Zippo

Romo and Dak have different strengths and weaknesses but both above average QBs in my book

This.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I love how this is presented as being so data driven and scientific, then it's all based on arbitrary grades assigned by the author.

I think Romo was better, especially as he kept getting better as he aged and Dak isn't (unless last year turns out to be some complete outlier). But Romo should never be mentioned with Rodgers or Mahomes. The way this thing is graded, he was some all time great, which is a joke. He definitely wasn't a "Top-10 all time talent in raw ability." Come on, man.

And the amount of time and effort he put into something completely opinion based. They are basically the same dude. In that lower tier of Pro Bowl caliber QB's that shrunk in big games. Both have hardended supports that blame everyone but the QB. To the point of being outright apologists

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I love how this is presented as being so data driven and scientific, then it's all based on arbitrary grades assigned by the author.

I think Romo was better, especially as he kept getting better as he aged and Dak isn't (unless last year turns out to be some complete outlier). But Romo should never be mentioned with Rodgers or Mahomes. The way this thing is graded, he was some all time great, which is a joke. He definitely wasn't a "Top-10 all time talent in raw ability." Come on, man.

Guys keep saying this but Dak got an All Pro then got hurt. Romo got an All pro then got hurt and career is over. They seem to be treading to the same career.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'm confused, is Romo making a comeback and we may have a QB competition?

LOL.

He retired 9 years ago. This isn't going to change anyones opinion of either QB

I share the same confusion lol. These Romo threads keep popping up lol.

 

[darthseinfeld]

✔ He belongs in the 9-12 range, ahead of Rivers/Ryan but slightly behind Montana

You need to fire ChatGPT if thats where this is coming from.

Romo is more than "slightly behind" Montana. Montana won more Super Bowls than Romo won playoffs games

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Tony Romo vs. Dak Prescott: A Deep Comparative Analysis Using Advanced QB Methodology


This analysis will break down Tony Romo vs. Dak Prescott using a deep, data-driven approach based on pure quarterback ability. This will ignore team success, playoff wins, and narratives and instead focus entirely on individual skill level based on five core quarterbacking metrics.

The Five QB Metrics Used for Evaluation

Each quarterback is graded on a scale of 1-10 in five key skill areas:

Arm Talent (Strength, Accuracy, Deep Ball)

• How strong is the QB’s arm? Can they effortlessly throw deep with velocity?

• How accurate are they at short, intermediate, and deep levels?

• Can they throw off-platform or into tight windows?


Decision-Making (Turnover Avoidance, Processing Speed)

• Does the QB process defenses quickly and make the right reads?

• Do they avoid bad turnovers and play efficiently?

• Can they consistently beat different coverages?



Release Time & Mechanics (Throwing Motion, Efficiency)

• Is the QB’s throwing motion quick, compact, and efficient?

• Do they have great footwork, balance, and pocket control?

Elusiveness & Pocket Movement (Escapability, Sack Avoidance)

• Can the QB extend plays and evade sacks without taking unnecessary hits?

• Do they have fluid pocket footwork and awareness?

Pre-Snap Reading & Command of Offense (Football IQ, Audibles, Play Adjustments)
• How well does the QB read defenses pre-snap and adjust at the line?

• Can they call protections, diagnose blitzes, and change plays effectively?

• Do they have a high football IQ and mastery of the system?

Romo vs. Prescott: Direct Head-to-Head Breakdown

Category	Tony Romo (2006-2016)	Dak Prescott (2016-Present)	Who Wins?
Arm Talent	9.5/10 - One of the most accurate deep passers ever, effortless release, elite velocity	7.5/10 - Above-average deep ball but inconsistent, solid arm strength but not special	Romo
Decision-Making	8.5/10 - Elite processor, quick to read defenses, but aggressive risk-taker	7.5/10 - More conservative, avoids big mistakes but hesitates on deep reads	Romo
Release & Mechanics	9.5/10 - One of the quickest releases in NFL history, perfect mechanics	7.5/10 - Good mechanics but longer release, slightly slower processing	Romo
Elusiveness & Pocket Movement	9/10 - Elite escapability, made impossible plays outside the pocket	6.5/10 - Good mobility, but gets caught holding the ball too long	Romo
Pre-Snap Reading & Command of Offense	9.5/10 - One of the smartest QBs ever pre-snap, called his own protections, read defenses like Manning	7.5/10 - Above-average pre-snap but relies on coaches for adjustments	Romo

Final Skill Comparison Scores

Category	Tony Romo	Dak Prescott	Who Wins?
Arm Talent	9.5	7.5	Romo (+2.0)
Decision-Making	8.5	7.5	Romo (+1.0)
Release & Mechanics	9.5	7.5	Romo (+2.0)
Elusiveness & Pocket Movement	9.0	6.5	Romo (+2.5)
Pre-Snap IQ & Command of Offense	9.5	7.5	Romo (+2.0)

Total Score:


• Tony Romo → 46.0/50


• Dak Prescott → 36.5/50


Winner: Tony Romo (+9.5 points over Dak)


Deep-Dive Analysis of Their Strengths & Weaknesses


Why Tony Romo Was a More Skilled QB


Superior Throwing Mechanics & Release


• Romo had a top-3 fastest release in NFL history, similar to Marino and Rodgers.

• His footwork was elite, allowing him to throw accurately under pressure.

Better Deep Ball Accuracy

• Romo’s deep ball placement was near perfect. His connection with Dez Bryant and Miles Austin showcased pinpoint accuracy on vertical routes.

• Dak is inconsistent throwing deep, often under-throwing receivers.

Elite Playmaker Under Pressure

• Romo could escape pressure and still make perfect throws. He was Aaron Rodgers before Aaron Rodgers.

• Dak panics more under pressure, leading to more sacks or short, safe throws.

Smarter Pre-Snap Adjustments

• Romo called his own protections and adjusted routes, similar to Peyton Manning.

• Dak relies heavily on offensive coordinators for adjustments.



Where Dak Prescott Has the Edge

Less Risk-Taking

• Dak protects the ball better, throwing fewer risky passes than Romo.

• Romo’s aggressiveness led to more jaw-dropping plays but also occasional bad interceptions.


Better Designed Offense to Minimize Mistakes

• Dak benefits from modern RPO schemes that simplify his reads.

• Romo played in a more complex offense where he had more responsibility.


Stronger & More Durable Physically

• Dak is bigger and takes more hits without breaking down.

• Romo suffered multiple injuries due to his reckless playstyle and lack of protection.



Final Verdict: Why Romo Was the Better QB


Tony Romo is the more complete and talented quarterback in every category except risk management and durability.


If Romo played in today’s offense with modern rules, he would put up Mahomes-like efficiency numbers.


Who Would You Rather Have in a Game?

• If you need a quarterback who can execute a structured system without mistakes → Dak Prescott.

• If you need a quarterback who can improvise, make elite throws, and elevate an offense beyond the system → Tony Romo, by a wide margin.



Conclusion: Romo Was an Elite-Level QB, Dak Is a Good QB

• Tony Romo was a Top-10 all-time talent in raw ability.

• Dak Prescott is a Top-35-40 level talent who benefits from modern rules and schemes.


• If Romo played in today’s NFL, his numbers would be even better than what we saw in his career.


Final Thought: Dak is a very good quarterback, but Romo was an elite quarterback who never got the recognition he deserved.

So basically Romo is the greatest QB of all time and Dak is a bum. Agenda is crazy lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

To 95% of the world Romo was known as a choker who didn’t perform at a high level when it mattered. But to Romosexuals he apparently is on the same level as Mahomes and Brady.

 

[darthseinfeld]

So suggest a better way of doing it.

(and btw...do you really think Romo on a better team, better coaching, better management...would no way win a super bowl or two? And look pretty good doing it? I say yes, he would)

He was on a 13 win team and a 12 win team and lost at home both times. So no, he probably wouldnt

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Tony Romo vs. Dak Prescott: A Deep Comparative Analysis Using Advanced QB Methodology


This analysis will break down Tony Romo vs. Dak Prescott using a deep, data-driven approach based on pure quarterback ability. This will ignore team success, playoff wins, and narratives and instead focus entirely on individual skill level based on five core quarterbacking metrics.

The Five QB Metrics Used for Evaluation

Each quarterback is graded on a scale of 1-10 in five key skill areas:

Arm Talent (Strength, Accuracy, Deep Ball)

• How strong is the QB’s arm? Can they effortlessly throw deep with velocity?

• How accurate are they at short, intermediate, and deep levels?

• Can they throw off-platform or into tight windows?


Decision-Making (Turnover Avoidance, Processing Speed)

• Does the QB process defenses quickly and make the right reads?

• Do they avoid bad turnovers and play efficiently?

• Can they consistently beat different coverages?



Release Time & Mechanics (Throwing Motion, Efficiency)

• Is the QB’s throwing motion quick, compact, and efficient?

• Do they have great footwork, balance, and pocket control?

Elusiveness & Pocket Movement (Escapability, Sack Avoidance)

• Can the QB extend plays and evade sacks without taking unnecessary hits?

• Do they have fluid pocket footwork and awareness?

Pre-Snap Reading & Command of Offense (Football IQ, Audibles, Play Adjustments)
• How well does the QB read defenses pre-snap and adjust at the line?

• Can they call protections, diagnose blitzes, and change plays effectively?

• Do they have a high football IQ and mastery of the system?

Romo vs. Prescott: Direct Head-to-Head Breakdown

Category	Tony Romo (2006-2016)	Dak Prescott (2016-Present)	Who Wins?
Arm Talent	9.5/10 - One of the most accurate deep passers ever, effortless release, elite velocity	7.5/10 - Above-average deep ball but inconsistent, solid arm strength but not special	Romo
Decision-Making	8.5/10 - Elite processor, quick to read defenses, but aggressive risk-taker	7.5/10 - More conservative, avoids big mistakes but hesitates on deep reads	Romo
Release & Mechanics	9.5/10 - One of the quickest releases in NFL history, perfect mechanics	7.5/10 - Good mechanics but longer release, slightly slower processing	Romo
Elusiveness & Pocket Movement	9/10 - Elite escapability, made impossible plays outside the pocket	6.5/10 - Good mobility, but gets caught holding the ball too long	Romo
Pre-Snap Reading & Command of Offense	9.5/10 - One of the smartest QBs ever pre-snap, called his own protections, read defenses like Manning	7.5/10 - Above-average pre-snap but relies on coaches for adjustments	Romo

Final Skill Comparison Scores

Category	Tony Romo	Dak Prescott	Who Wins?
Arm Talent	9.5	7.5	Romo (+2.0)
Decision-Making	8.5	7.5	Romo (+1.0)
Release & Mechanics	9.5	7.5	Romo (+2.0)
Elusiveness & Pocket Movement	9.0	6.5	Romo (+2.5)
Pre-Snap IQ & Command of Offense	9.5	7.5	Romo (+2.0)

Total Score:


• Tony Romo → 46.0/50


• Dak Prescott → 36.5/50


Winner: Tony Romo (+9.5 points over Dak)


Deep-Dive Analysis of Their Strengths & Weaknesses


Why Tony Romo Was a More Skilled QB


Superior Throwing Mechanics & Release


• Romo had a top-3 fastest release in NFL history, similar to Marino and Rodgers.

• His footwork was elite, allowing him to throw accurately under pressure.

Better Deep Ball Accuracy

• Romo’s deep ball placement was near perfect. His connection with Dez Bryant and Miles Austin showcased pinpoint accuracy on vertical routes.

• Dak is inconsistent throwing deep, often under-throwing receivers.

Elite Playmaker Under Pressure

• Romo could escape pressure and still make perfect throws. He was Aaron Rodgers before Aaron Rodgers.

• Dak panics more under pressure, leading to more sacks or short, safe throws.

Smarter Pre-Snap Adjustments

• Romo called his own protections and adjusted routes, similar to Peyton Manning.

• Dak relies heavily on offensive coordinators for adjustments.



Where Dak Prescott Has the Edge

Less Risk-Taking

• Dak protects the ball better, throwing fewer risky passes than Romo.

• Romo’s aggressiveness led to more jaw-dropping plays but also occasional bad interceptions.


Better Designed Offense to Minimize Mistakes

• Dak benefits from modern RPO schemes that simplify his reads.

• Romo played in a more complex offense where he had more responsibility.


Stronger & More Durable Physically

• Dak is bigger and takes more hits without breaking down.

• Romo suffered multiple injuries due to his reckless playstyle and lack of protection.



Final Verdict: Why Romo Was the Better QB


Tony Romo is the more complete and talented quarterback in every category except risk management and durability.


If Romo played in today’s offense with modern rules, he would put up Mahomes-like efficiency numbers.


Who Would You Rather Have in a Game?

• If you need a quarterback who can execute a structured system without mistakes → Dak Prescott.

• If you need a quarterback who can improvise, make elite throws, and elevate an offense beyond the system → Tony Romo, by a wide margin.



Conclusion: Romo Was an Elite-Level QB, Dak Is a Good QB

• Tony Romo was a Top-10 all-time talent in raw ability.

• Dak Prescott is a Top-35-40 level talent who benefits from modern rules and schemes.


• If Romo played in today’s NFL, his numbers would be even better than what we saw in his career.


Final Thought: Dak is a very good quarterback, but Romo was an elite quarterback who never got the recognition he deserved.

I give this OP an A++ for highlighting what clear-eyed people know to be true,,,, Romo was a much better QB and the unhinged disrespect he gets from some is misplaced. No, of course he doesn't belong in the same category as Peyton or Patrick but If he had a better defense in those good years they might have won it all. The inability to stop a one-legged Aaron Rodgers was so pathetic.

A++ for effective trolling too .

 

[darthseinfeld]

It's no use. Everyone has these numbers. They just don't care.

Probably because who actually remembers any of them? How significant were they? You ask Cowboys fans what Romo's marquee game was and most say the game he looked good losing to Peyton Manning. What was Dak's? Honestly couldnt tell you. Nothing stands out.

Both were very good QB's, but both had alot of empty calories

 

[Runwildboys]

To 95% of the world Romo was known as a choker who didn’t perform at a high level when it mattered. But to Romosexuals he apparently is on the same level as Mahomes and Brady.

It's possible to lose big games, even be the reason for the loss, without being a "choker". You'd have to know the psyche of a person, to be able to make that determination in any team sport. In golf, yes, you can tell if someone is choking.( I do it every time I have a chance at birdie.) But there are far too many variables in football to label someone a choker. He's performed at a high level in important games and lost anyway, due to drops, etc.

I wouldn't even call Dak a choker. I just think he over thinks things a lot. IMO, chokers lack confidence.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It's possible to lose big games, even be the reason for the loss, without being a "choker". You'd have to know the psyche of a person, to be able to make that determination in any team sport. In golf, yes, you can tell if someone is choking.( I do it every time I have a chance at birdie.) But there are far too many variables in football to label someone a choker. He's performed at a high level in important games and lost anyway, due to drops, etc.

I wouldn't even call Dak a choker. I just think he over thinks things a lot. IMO, chokers lack confidence.

Oh they both for sure are chokers. Dak too. Pains me to say it. He wasn’t always this way but the last 4 years he’s just been choking and I don’t know why.

 

[CWR]

I love how this is presented as being so data driven and scientific, then it's all based on arbitrary grades assigned by the author.

I think Romo was better, especially as he kept getting better as he aged and Dak isn't (unless last year turns out to be some complete outlier). But Romo should never be mentioned with Rodgers or Mahomes. The way this thing is graded, he was some all time great, which is a joke. He definitely wasn't a "Top-10 all time talent in raw ability." Come on, man.

Agree with everything you said. After the Tampa playoff game i thought Dak might pass Romo up, but he went backwards from there.

I dont think it's a coincidence both Qbs were better with a strong run game and Romo made plenty of terrible decisions earlier in his career. They both have a tendency to try and do too much when we are floundering and it hurts them.

Dak isn't done yet so I'll wait to see before making a final judgment. I have major concerns with Dak not being mobile though.

 

[dupree89]

I honestly don't understand. Why is Romo's name brought up so often?

 

[CWR]

Oh they both for sure are chokers. Dak too. Pains me to say it. He wasn’t always this way but the last 4 years he’s just been choking and I don’t know why.

Neither one of them could win despite the team failings. They aren't/weren't the problem, but neither are the solution either. I think Daks failings have had a lot to do with his team. That said I also believe only a couple of qbs are capable of carrying their respective teams.

 

[Runwildboys]

I honestly don't understand. Why is Romo's name brought up so often?

Because some people remember him fondly (myself included), and can't stand the thought that other people don't. (Doesn't bother me enough to start a thread, or argue too vehemently.)

 

[phildadon86]

Tony Romo vs. Dak Prescott: A Deep Comparative Analysis Using Advanced QB Methodology


This analysis will break down Tony Romo vs. Dak Prescott using a deep, data-driven approach based on pure quarterback ability. This will ignore team success, playoff wins, and narratives and instead focus entirely on individual skill level based on five core quarterbacking metrics.

The Five QB Metrics Used for Evaluation

Each quarterback is graded on a scale of 1-10 in five key skill areas:

Arm Talent (Strength, Accuracy, Deep Ball)

• How strong is the QB’s arm? Can they effortlessly throw deep with velocity?

• How accurate are they at short, intermediate, and deep levels?

• Can they throw off-platform or into tight windows?


Decision-Making (Turnover Avoidance, Processing Speed)

• Does the QB process defenses quickly and make the right reads?

• Do they avoid bad turnovers and play efficiently?

• Can they consistently beat different coverages?



Release Time & Mechanics (Throwing Motion, Efficiency)

• Is the QB’s throwing motion quick, compact, and efficient?

• Do they have great footwork, balance, and pocket control?

Elusiveness & Pocket Movement (Escapability, Sack Avoidance)

• Can the QB extend plays and evade sacks without taking unnecessary hits?

• Do they have fluid pocket footwork and awareness?

Pre-Snap Reading & Command of Offense (Football IQ, Audibles, Play Adjustments)
• How well does the QB read defenses pre-snap and adjust at the line?

• Can they call protections, diagnose blitzes, and change plays effectively?

• Do they have a high football IQ and mastery of the system?

Romo vs. Prescott: Direct Head-to-Head Breakdown

Category	Tony Romo (2006-2016)	Dak Prescott (2016-Present)	Who Wins?
Arm Talent	9.5/10 - One of the most accurate deep passers ever, effortless release, elite velocity	7.5/10 - Above-average deep ball but inconsistent, solid arm strength but not special	Romo
Decision-Making	8.5/10 - Elite processor, quick to read defenses, but aggressive risk-taker	7.5/10 - More conservative, avoids big mistakes but hesitates on deep reads	Romo
Release & Mechanics	9.5/10 - One of the quickest releases in NFL history, perfect mechanics	7.5/10 - Good mechanics but longer release, slightly slower processing	Romo
Elusiveness & Pocket Movement	9/10 - Elite escapability, made impossible plays outside the pocket	6.5/10 - Good mobility, but gets caught holding the ball too long	Romo
Pre-Snap Reading & Command of Offense	9.5/10 - One of the smartest QBs ever pre-snap, called his own protections, read defenses like Manning	7.5/10 - Above-average pre-snap but relies on coaches for adjustments	Romo

Final Skill Comparison Scores

Category	Tony Romo	Dak Prescott	Who Wins?
Arm Talent	9.5	7.5	Romo (+2.0)
Decision-Making	8.5	7.5	Romo (+1.0)
Release & Mechanics	9.5	7.5	Romo (+2.0)
Elusiveness & Pocket Movement	9.0	6.5	Romo (+2.5)
Pre-Snap IQ & Command of Offense	9.5	7.5	Romo (+2.0)

Total Score:


• Tony Romo → 46.0/50


• Dak Prescott → 36.5/50


Winner: Tony Romo (+9.5 points over Dak)


Deep-Dive Analysis of Their Strengths & Weaknesses


Why Tony Romo Was a More Skilled QB


Superior Throwing Mechanics & Release


• Romo had a top-3 fastest release in NFL history, similar to Marino and Rodgers.

• His footwork was elite, allowing him to throw accurately under pressure.

Better Deep Ball Accuracy

• Romo’s deep ball placement was near perfect. His connection with Dez Bryant and Miles Austin showcased pinpoint accuracy on vertical routes.

• Dak is inconsistent throwing deep, often under-throwing receivers.

Elite Playmaker Under Pressure

• Romo could escape pressure and still make perfect throws. He was Aaron Rodgers before Aaron Rodgers.

• Dak panics more under pressure, leading to more sacks or short, safe throws.

Smarter Pre-Snap Adjustments

• Romo called his own protections and adjusted routes, similar to Peyton Manning.

• Dak relies heavily on offensive coordinators for adjustments.



Where Dak Prescott Has the Edge

Less Risk-Taking

• Dak protects the ball better, throwing fewer risky passes than Romo.

• Romo’s aggressiveness led to more jaw-dropping plays but also occasional bad interceptions.


Better Designed Offense to Minimize Mistakes

• Dak benefits from modern RPO schemes that simplify his reads.

• Romo played in a more complex offense where he had more responsibility.


Stronger & More Durable Physically

• Dak is bigger and takes more hits without breaking down.

• Romo suffered multiple injuries due to his reckless playstyle and lack of protection.



Final Verdict: Why Romo Was the Better QB


Tony Romo is the more complete and talented quarterback in every category except risk management and durability.


If Romo played in today’s offense with modern rules, he would put up Mahomes-like efficiency numbers.


Who Would You Rather Have in a Game?

• If you need a quarterback who can execute a structured system without mistakes → Dak Prescott.

• If you need a quarterback who can improvise, make elite throws, and elevate an offense beyond the system → Tony Romo, by a wide margin.



Conclusion: Romo Was an Elite-Level QB, Dak Is a Good QB

• Tony Romo was a Top-10 all-time talent in raw ability.

• Dak Prescott is a Top-35-40 level talent who benefits from modern rules and schemes.


• If Romo played in today’s NFL, his numbers would be even better than what we saw in his career.


Final Thought: Dak is a very good quarterback, but Romo was an elite quarterback who never got the recognition he deserved.

I love this kind of revisionist history.

Romo didnt start "processing the game" at an elite level until 2014. He should have won MVP that year to be fair, but to make it seem like he did that his entire career is disingenuous.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

OP has an account that's over 20 years old.

Barley posted anything in those 20 years.

Comes in here to tell us Romo is slightly behind Joe Montana based on ability.

 

[jwitten82]

OP has an account that's over 20 years old.

Barley posted anything in those 20 years.

Comes in here to tell us Romo is slightly behind Joe Montana based on ability.

You saying it's Romo posting?!?!

Romo!!! I hate the stupid noises you make when calling the game!!!

 

[noshame]

Me thinks you're crediting it Mr. Prescott a bit too much.
Arm is average at best. Accuracy is below average quite a bit below average.