Romo best All-Time in TDs per game

[Rampage]

Are you impressed with any stat? How do you judge QB's?

wins and stats. I bet Romo is near the top of the list in turnovers since he became a starter too. I'm not a blind homer like theogt with his "it's crazy how good Romo is". Jerry has surounded Romo with weapons galore and a solid o-line. fact is we don't know how good Romo is yet. we're gonna start to find out next season though. I'm rooting for the guy but spare me with the "it's crazy how good he is" comments.

 

[NeonNinja]

Let the haters keep hating.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

wins and stats. I bet Romo is near the top of the list in turnovers since he became a starter too. I'm not a blind homer like theogt with his "it's crazy how good Romo is". Jerry has surounded Romo with weapons galore and a solid o-line. fact is we don't know how good Romo is yet. we're gonna start to find out next season though. I'm rooting for the guy but spare me with the "it's crazy how good he is" comments.

You have to admit he has looked good up to this point. He has a fumble issue, but nobody's perfect and it can be corrected. The O-line let him down at times, which led to those fumbles. Discipline, blocking, snapping and ball protection are all things the Cowboys offense needs to work on in minicamps and training camp.

 

[The Panch]

You have to admit he has looked good up to this point. He has a fumble issue, but nobody's perfect and it can be corrected. The O-line let him down at times, which led to those fumbles. Discipline, blocking, snapping and ball protection are all things the Cowboys offense needs to work on in minicamps and training camp.

There's alot of QB's out there with worse O-lines and yet only Roethlisberger had more fumbles and that's only cause Romo missed 3 games. If you combine INTs and fumbles lost per game, only Favre was a more turnover prone QB in 2008.

 

[Doomsay]

TO was a major TD target for Romo, but I think Roy and Tony will actually have better chemistry in the red zone.

I'm sure that that was one of the non-discretionary things that Romo felt forced into as the team approached the red zone. TO was pretty damn good in those situations, but it seemed like there were a lot of other open targets as well.

It's the single coverage breakaway mid-field passes with big YAC add-ons that we will miss the most IMO.

 

[theogt]

And the most fumbles Peyton ever had in a season was 7, losing 3 of them. Romo had 13 fumbles in 13 games last year, losing 7 of em. That's not included in a passer rating, so what's your point?

Oh noes! You've completely disregarded the statistic that has the single highest correlation coefficient with winning percentage!

Good job.

 

[Rampage]

You have to admit he has looked good up to this point. He has a fumble issue, but nobody's perfect and it can be corrected. The O-line let him down at times, which led to those fumbles. Discipline, blocking, snapping and ball protection are all things the Cowboys offense needs to work on in minicamps and training camp.

he's a very good quarterback and like you said nobody is perfect. I'm happy he's our qb and hope he improves in the turnover area. if he does that than maybe we can talk about how it's "crazy how good he is". until than he's still a very good qb but I know he can be better.

Edit: and yes the o-line could definetly do him a favor and protect him better. they get paid to play much better than they have.

 

[THUMPER]

It looks like you counted only his games started as "games" but included his touchdowns from other games in the stat.

Romo still might rank No. 1 if every other quarterback's numbers were corrected, but his average would drop to 1.95 TDs per start.

Well, since I only used games started for all of them it works out the same. The number might be different but it would still be ahead of anyone else. Even at 1.95 he would still be ahead if I didn't adjust any of the others.

Only you would catch that Adam.

Also, his INTs per game would go down as well. Just sayin...

 

[Clove]

Nah. That can't be. I've been told he's "trash".

It's like putting makeup on a pig. You know what comes next.

 

[Clove]

1. How many clutch wins does Romo have.
2. How many times has he missed an opened receiver in the clutch.
3. How many times has he thrown an interception in games we truly needed him?
4. How great are his stats without the HOF WR?
5. How many play off victories has he won?
6. How many play off losses has he had.
7. Why didn't he make the pro-bowl last year?
8. How many NFC championship games does he have?
9. How many Super Bowl Victories does he have?
10. If he's the best, why is Roethlisberger holding a fat trophy and ring.

Go dig up those stats boss man.

 

[PullMyFinger]

I just made an interesting discovery... While working on my QB stats I realized that Tony Romo is the only QB in NFL history who has averaged 2.02 TDs per game (including playoff games) for his career, at least of guys with over 10,000 career passing yards anyway. He has 83 TDs in 41 games!

The next highest is Kurt Warner with 208 TDs in 112 games (1.86 per game).

Peyton Manning is at 1.83, Steve Young, Daryle Lamonica, and Sonny Jurgensen are at 1.80.

For comparison sake, Tom Brady is at 1.76, and Brett Favre is at 1.73.

When talking about Tony Romo's faults let's not forget to take into consideration his assets, which are considerable.

Ya but he averages 19.6 turnovers per game.

 

[peplaw06]

1. How many clutch wins does Romo have.

Define "clutch win," Captain Subjective.

2. How many times has he missed an opened receiver in the clutch.

Again, when is "the clutch?" Is that an official stat?

3. How many times has he thrown an interception in games we truly needed him?

We already have stats on INTs here... Which games are the ones when we didn't "truly need him?"

4. How great are his stats without the HOF WR?

There's no sample size here.... Unless you want to count that one regular season game that TO missed due to injury. Either way, it's a miniscule sample.

5. How many play off victories has he won?

Definitely the end-all be-all stat for QB performance.

6. How many play off losses has he had.

2??? He's a BUM!!!!!

7. Why didn't he make the pro-bowl last year?

Cause he was injured for 3 games?? Would it have mattered to you? If he made the Pro Bowl, everyone would just be saying, "Oh hell, it's just the Pro Bowl, we put 13 people in there in 2007. Anyone can make the Pro Bowl."

8. How many NFC championship games does he have?
9. How many Super Bowl Victories does he have?

No sample size. Let's get rid of him because he hasn't won a Super Bowl in his first 2 1/2 seasons!!!

10. If he's the best, why is Roethlisberger holding a fat trophy and ring.

You're right, Roethilisberger made a great play on that INT at the end of the first half against Arizona.

Go dig up those stats boss man.

The only stat you've referenced is a playoff win-loss record. That's some intense research.

 

[peplaw06]

Yeah sadly, Romo can't even be mentioned in the same paragraph as those guys.

Ummm, he just was.

 

[RoadRunner]

Did this stat find suddenly make a playoff win appear on his resume as well?

Moral of the story: until Romo leads us to a playoff win, stats mean jack squat.

 

[joseephuss]

Romo does some fantastic things. There is no denying that. He also makes huge mistakes from time to time. There is no denying that either.

I don't like the stance that since he manages a 2 to 1 TD to interception ratio that he will be okay. That held true for Aikman because he was averaging less than an interception per game. Aikman was not putting up great TD numbers, but he wasn't putting the team in a lot of bad situations because his turnover margin was low. Romo is over an interception per game and has a lot of fumbles.

I realize that no single play can win or lose a game. I do think that negative plays hurt a team more than positive teams help a team. Interceptions and fumbles are hard to overcome.

When you don't turn the ball over that much then your team can win even if you don't produce a lot of TDs. With the number of turnovers that Romo is producing he would need to be getting closer to a 3 to 1 TD to interception ratio to compensate. It is not realistic for him to create more TDs to get up to that ratio. It is realistic for him to reduce the number of turnovers even if it means that some of his TD production goes down. I am idealistic and think he can reduce turnovers without hurting his TD numbers.

It is a realistic criticism of Romo to say he needs to improve on not turning the ball over. Not all of the bad in Dallas is on Romo. The whole team has areas they need to improve. Some of that improvement will help Romo's issues. In turn Romo working on not turning the ball over as much will help with the other team issues. It all goes together.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Wow theres a shocker. Apparently not everything Romo does is terrible. Who'd have thought that was possible if you listen long enough on these forums you'd think all the guy does is turn the ball over, choke, and completely suck at the game of football.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Are you impressed with any stat? How do you judge QB's?

Like the great Terry Bradshaw answered when asked, "what is your QB rating?"

His reply, "Four and 0 in SuperBowls"






I want Romo to succeed and do will. I feel he will. But its a cautious optimism. His major TD weapon is gone. Contrary to many, I feel Roy can replace most of that production. But if he cant stay healthy and/or he looks uncomfortable in this offense like he did last year.

Then we are in trouble.

 

[tunahelper]

Can we get him to not turn the ball over 1.5 times a game?

 

[daschoo]

Romo does some fantastic things. There is no denying that. He also makes huge mistakes from time to time. There is no denying that either.

I don't like the stance that since he manages a 2 to 1 TD to interception ratio that he will be okay. That held true for Aikman because he was averaging less than an interception per game. Aikman was not putting up great TD numbers, but he wasn't putting the team in a lot of bad situations because his turnover margin was low. Romo is over an interception per game and has a lot of fumbles.

I realize that no single play can win or lose a game. I do think that negative plays hurt a team more than positive teams help a team. Interceptions and fumbles are hard to overcome.

When you don't turn the ball over that much then your team can win even if you don't produce a lot of TDs. With the number of turnovers that Romo is producing he would need to be getting closer to a 3 to 1 TD to interception ratio to compensate. It is not realistic for him to create more TDs to get up to that ratio. It is realistic for him to reduce the number of turnovers even if it means that some of his TD production goes down. I am idealistic and think he can reduce turnovers without hurting his TD numbers.

It is a realistic criticism of Romo to say he needs to improve on not turning the ball over. Not all of the bad in Dallas is on Romo. The whole team has areas they need to improve. Some of that improvement will help Romo's issues. In turn Romo working on not turning the ball over as much will help with the other team issues. It all goes together.

what's this doing here? you haven't bent stats to fit an agenda, you don't appear to have an alterior motive and its well thought out and not what i would call knee-jerk. i think you might have posted this in the wrong place bud

 

[wileedog]

And the most fumbles Peyton ever had in a season was 7, losing 3 of them. Romo had 13 fumbles in 13 games last year, losing 7 of em. That's not included in a passer rating, so what's your point?

That he had a broken pinky this season? That he was on the run for most of the year due to a porous offensive line? That fumbles can be cut down on with better mechanics and coaching, while generally TDs and INTs and YPA are more a direct guage of talent (hence why they are included in QB rating and fumbles aren't)?

I'll take a great QB anyday if his worst fault is not being able to hold on to the ball when he gets hit. That's something I can address directly - stop getting him hit.