Romo Has A Serious Problem Accurately Throwing The Football...

[craig71]

Romo has 1500 attempts, which the NFL has determined is enough to be in the "All-Time" Considerations.

If you would like to compare Romo's first 1500 attempts with Manning or Brady's first 1500 attempts, then feel free to do so. But, I promise you that his numbers over that period DWARF theirs, so it doesn't make any difference.

If a person compared Manning,Brady or Brees to Romo at 1500 attempts that would be apples to apples.When one compares Manning,Brady or Brees to Romo in career rating that is not apple to apples but apples to oranges.

Craig

 

[DFWJC]

you missed it
overreaction monday after all.

Thanks...I thought it was tongue-in-cheek but you never know with this bunch.

 

[TD-33]

They could trade him for Cutler but then we would have ******** threads about him too I suppose....

 

[rynochop]

So did McNabb in the game against us.

Most asinine thread ever.

 

[joseephuss]

If a person compared Manning,Brady or Brees to Romo at 1500 attempts that would be apples to apples.When one compares Manning,Brady or Brees to Romo in career rating that is not apple to apples but apples to oranges.

Craig

Romo is closer to those guys in terms of completion percentage and accuracy than he is to the statement that he has always been inaccurate. Like you said he is not as bad as some have made him out to be and he probably isn't quite as good as the stats say, either. Still pretty good.

 

[Ender]

Wow, this is a baseless thread, he has a career 63 percent career completion rate.

 

[rynochop]

They could trade him for Cutler but then we would have ******** threads about him too I suppose....

Ha, where have those folks gone btw? If Romo's not accurate whats Cutler? Well, other than accurate to the DB's.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

By the way, Romo's pocket is atrocious. The T are letting people off the edge almost every time and Romo has to step up in the pocket almost every time and the middle is not holding it's ground and thus he has no room to step into throws.

You watch a NO game or a Indy game and see what kind of pocket they have compared to the Cowboys and get back to me!

Exactly. I've been saying that for a couple years now. People over-rate this OLine, especially in pass protection, so greatly. Everyone loves Manning and Brady, and I do as well, but those guys numbers would be in trouble if they played behind O-Lines that are as average, or below average, as the Cowboys O-Line.

I didn't say that at all.

He's obviously too shockingly inaccurate, alarmingly erratic and appallingly inconsistent to ever be a good NFL quarterback.

Like I said, it's amazing we've ever won a game with a quarterback as bad as he is. We just get lucky sometimes, I guess.

Oh...I see what you did there. I smiled.

Yes, well, actually its a career 63% completion rate to go along with a career 94 passer rating.

Right up there with Peyton's career 64% completion rate, 95 QB rating. Brady's 63% completion rate, and 93.6 rating. And Drew Brees 64% completion rate, and 90 career rating.

And just think how good Romo would be if he weren't so horribly, horribly inaccurate for his entire career.

Don't let pesky things like the facts spoil the Romo haters parade. They have to hate on the guy every chance they get cause they'd much, much, much rather have Drew Bledsoe or someone back here, or maybe even believe we should be trying to make some dream trade for Brady, Manning, or someone.

At least the "Matt Ryan is better" stuff has faded now that Matt Ryan isn't all that and a bag of chips this year.

 

[ajk23az]

If a person compared Manning,Brady or Brees to Romo at 1500 attempts that would be apples to apples.When one compares Manning,Brady or Brees to Romo in career rating that is not apple to apples but apples to oranges.

Craig

Well here you go...(I'm not gonna go down to the exact 1,500th pass so I just took season by season)

Name.......Attempts......Completions......%..........TD..........INT
Brady........1544...............955..........61.8.........69...........38
Brees........1809...............1125.........62.1.........80...........53
Manning.....1679...............1014.........60.3.......85............58
Romo.....1637...............1029.........62.9.........96..........53

 

[jubal]

Like I said last week . When he is on he is awesome when he isn't he's not.

 

[kramskoi]

...has been quite obvious right from the start of the season.

There's two problems at play here IMO.

Romo has been inconsistent with his accuracy.

The receivers have not been fighting for more of the balls he has gotten to them.

Between the slightly off target throws, to the drops and the plain old missed ones it has been difficult for this offence to display a Drew Brees ala Saints like efficiency.

I'm not one to harp on the start of a team - rather I believe in seeing teams build through the season getting better.

But at some point I am going to begin to get itchy on the panic button. It's not time just yet.

...Brees is operating at about 68%...Romo's at 60% [21st in the league]...but Brees also has 4 WR receivers with a DYAR over 55...the Cowboys have only one...Miles Austin...Williams and Crayton are barely above replacement level...Crayton is performing better than Williams though...if Roy ends the year at his current level of production the Cowboys have some serious questions that need answering in the offseason and next year could see one of the youngest starting receiver corps in Dallas history...Williams is just that bad right now...and he would be standing in the way of the development of other players like Hurd and Ogletree...

...the way i feel right now, i would'nt mind just starting Crayton and Hurd in the slot...let Williams mull over how to get himself back on track...he's just a non-factor right now and those two can't be worse from what i've seen...

...the Dallas offense has about 2 weeks to get itself sorted out before the meeting in the Meadowlands...it's tough sledding from there until the end...

 

[lonestar6]

Romo is completing only 60% of his passes this season, which is the 2nd lowest completion percentage of the top 20 QBs this season (by QB rating), ahead of only Matt Ryan. He tends to make up for the low completion percentage with big plays, but when he isn't making them, it seems the offense has had problems sustaining long drives this year.

He does seem to me more inaccurate this year than he's been in previous years, especially his first year and a half of starting, where I thought he was pretty accurate. Whether it's because of regression in his mechanics, not being on the same page as his receivers, offensive line play, etc I won't speculate but the numbers are what they are.

I also think the whole first 1500 attempts comparisons with Manning and Brady are comparing apples and oranges. Different teams, different offenses (Brady didn't exactly have any good weapons until the Moss/Welker era), different era, different starting ages (Manning and Brady had to start at a much younger age than Romo). Romo's late start as a starting QB also means he's not exactly a young QB anymore (he'll be 30 in April), so from a longevity perspective he's probably not going to have the same number of years in his prime that your Mannings and Bradys will have.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Well here you go...(I'm not gonna go down to the exact 1,500th pass so I just took season by season)

Name.......Attempts......Completions......%..........TD..........INT
Brady........1544...............955..........61.8.........69...........38
Brees........1809...............1125.........62.1.........80...........53
Manning.....1679...............1014.........60.3.......85............58
Romo.....1637...............1029.........62.9.........96..........53

Thanks.

Now we get to sit back and watch people break their ankles tripping all over themselves to explain how the facts don't matter.

 

[wileedog]

He does seem to me more inaccurate this year than he's been in previous years, especially his first year and a half of starting, where I thought he was pretty accurate. Whether it's because of regression in his mechanics, not being on the same page as his receivers, offensive line play, etc I won't speculate but the numbers are what they are..

I think this is a valid criticism, Romo's Comp % has gone down every year, and has been particularly noticeable since the pinky break last year. I also wonder how much of it has to do with the departure of David Lee and Wade Wilson taking over.

 

[craig71]

Well here you go...(I'm not gonna go down to the exact 1,500th pass so I just took season by season)

Name.......Attempts......Completions......%..........TD..........INT
Brady........1544...............955..........61.8.........69...........38
Brees........1809...............1125.........62.1.........80...........53
Manning.....1679...............1014.........60.3.......85............58
Romo.....1637...............1029.........62.9.........96..........53

Thanks for the research.I would consider that more objective than comparing Romo with 1637 attempts to Manning who has 6348 attempts.

Craig

 

[The Quest for Six]

...and if he doesn't get it corrected we aren't going to accomplish anything this season.

Imo, his inaccuracy throwing the ball (mainly high) is mainly a result of poor mechanincs. You can't blame it on a sore back because he's had the problem since the Tampa Bay game.

I watched him closely on a replay when he overthrew a WR down the fiield. The angle was from behind the LOS. It was obvious he didn't set his feet and he threw the ball moving backwards and to the side.

I understand the pass rush can be the cause of that at times but I will never forget what Phil Simms said earlier this year on Inside the NFL. He said the main thing that concerned him about Romo was not the occasional int, it was the alarming number of inaccurate passes that he does not complete that should be routine throws for an NFL QB.

That was a shocking statement to me!

because he's an average quarterback...

 

[Silver N Blue]

Well here you go...(I'm not gonna go down to the exact 1,500th pass so I just took season by season)

Name.......Attempts......Completions......%..........TD..........INT
Brady........1544...............955..........61.8.........69...........38
Brees........1809...............1125.........62.1.........80...........53
Manning.....1679...............1014.........60.3.......85............58
Romo.....1637...............1029.........62.9.........96..........53

Peyton Manning IND QB 271 388 69.8 38.8 3,171 8.2 317.1 21 9 156 40.2 80T 38 7 8 102.7
2 Tom Brady NE QB 261 393 66.4 39.3 3,049 7.8 304.9 20 6 149 37.9 71T 30 7 14 100.4
3 Ben Roethlisberger PIT QB 237 344 68.9 34.4 2,867 8.3 286.7 17 10 139 40.4 52T 36 9 30 98.6
4 Aaron Rodgers GB QB 221 341 64.8 34.1 2,788 8.2 278.8 19 5 125 36.7 74T 34 11 43 102.6
5 Drew Brees NO QB 218 320 68.1 32.0 2,746 8.6 274.6 22 9 128 40.0 66 40 6 13 105.8
6 Kurt Warner ARI QB 251 372 67.5 37.2 2,718 7.3 271.8 20 11 143 38.4 44 27 2 16 94.4
7 Matt Schaub HOU QB 220 326 67.5 36.2 2,653 8.1 294.8 17 9 122 37.4 72T 33 9 15 98.1
8 Tony Romo DAL QB 198 330 60.0 33.0 2,624 8.0 262.4 15 7 113 34.2 80T 35 11 23 91.5
9 Philip Rivers SD QB 203 321 63.2 32.1 2,621 8.2 262.1 17 6 128 39.9 81T 36 8 20 98.7

Yeah where do these people come from...every pro player in every sport has a bad game here and there...but overall numbers don't lie...

 

[fffiasco]

shoulda traded for cutler... now that guy is accurate

 

[Kevinicus]

Why is everyone bring up his career completion percentage as evidence that this is a stupid thread? The point was that he's been inaccurate THIS year, especially in comparison to his previous years.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Why is everyone bring up his career completion percentage as evidence that this is a stupid thread? The point was that he's been inaccurate THIS year, especially in comparison to his previous years.

That is why I just posted his stats from this year...8th in the NFL...60% comp... yeah terrible year...