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Romo showed what he can do given the chance to throw to semi-open receivers. Over the last two games, he's faced much better defenses, but so has our offensive line, RBs, TEs, & WRs. Plus, we were completely out-coached this last game. DBs were sitting on slants to Glenn, and out-physicalling Owens. They stuffed our running game except for the 77 yd. TD run.
Now that the Cowboys are in the stretch run, they will be facing much tougher teams just gunning for them. All of a sudden, the offensive line that was blocking better is getting punched in the mouth, & they have backed down. The receivers are growing alligator arms, and JJ is running smack into the backs of his blockers. Man, I don't know how many times all or most of the Saint's defense was stacked in the middle to stuff the run, and JJ had all this room to run to the corner and down the sideline. Instead, he runs where the play is called, regardless if it is blocked or not.

I hope BP took a hard look at who showed up Sunday night, and who packed it in, or just never showed up. Owens is one who should sit. When I saw Romo pratically have to push Owens down the LOS to get positioned, I hit the roof. He did that at Philly last year when we were pummeling his team. He gave up on routes, dropped balls, and didn't fight for extra yds. I knew then that his charater DOES show up on game day. Why keep fighting when I could get hurt for nothing? Right Owens? We need to sit this guy FOREVER, and put Crayton in his place. At least Patrick fights until the game is over.

Let's give Romo the players he needs to get the job done, & he will. I know he overthrew a few guys, and wasn't as sharp as he has been, but Romo is the least of this teams' problems.
 

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Romo will be fine.

I'm more concerned with our defensive scheming at this point.
 

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The offense would come together with what we have, if temporary insanity didn't creep into the play calling and our secondary could cover someone long enough to get a rush going... and a DE who could enforce his will wouldn't hurt either.

It's not Romo's fault. He's one player who provided a spark, now everyone has to their part. Coaches and players.
 

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Agreed, not the problem to worry about at this stage of things..........

Needs a little help from coaching staff in putting him in the right place at the right time..........ie........the book is written....keep him in the pocket, or at worst force him to roll out to his left..........

Coaching staff gotta be able to move the pocket with controlled rollouts, OL sealing off the back etc to play him to his strenghts....if the Theismann era Skins' could do it.........so can BP...or, maybe he isnt the coach Gibbs is???

Gotta be able to set up a rollout with a Tackle/TE double on the DE etc.......
just have to play chess move/counter move........

but it shouldnt take till halftime, let alone 2 full games to get into it......See that BP wants to simplify things..........hmmmmmmmmm, work on the 3-4 D 1st bp
 

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vta;1229228 said:
The offense would come together with what we have, if temporary insanity didn't creep into the play calling and our secondary could cover someone long enough to get a rush going... and a DE who could enforce his will wouldn't hurt either.

Dude... on the first or second series where NO scored, Brees had like 30 seconds to throw... the secondary was doing their job....
 

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Cogan;1229220 said:
Romo showed what he can do given the chance to throw to semi-open receivers. Over the last two games, he's faced much better defenses, but so has our offensive line, RBs, TEs, & WRs. Plus, we were completely out-coached this last game. DBs were sitting on slants to Glenn, and out-physicalling Owens. They stuffed our running game except for the 77 yd. TD run.
Now that the Cowboys are in the stretch run, they will be facing much tougher teams just gunning for them. All of a sudden, the offensive line that was blocking better is getting punched in the mouth, & they have backed down. The receivers are growing alligator arms, and JJ is running smack into the backs of his blockers. Man, I don't know how many times all or most of the Saint's defense was stacked in the middle to stuff the run, and JJ had all this room to run to the corner and down the sideline. Instead, he runs where the play is called, regardless if it is blocked or not.

I hope BP took a hard look at who showed up Sunday night, and who packed it in, or just never showed up. Owens is one who should sit. When I saw Romo pratically have to push Owens down the LOS to get positioned, I hit the roof. He did that at Philly last year when we were pummeling his team. He gave up on routes, dropped balls, and didn't fight for extra yds. I knew then that his charater DOES show up on game day. Why keep fighting when I could get hurt for nothing? Right Owens? We need to sit this guy FOREVER, and put Crayton in his place. At least Patrick fights until the game is over.

Let's give Romo the players he needs to get the job done, & he will. I know he overthrew a few guys, and wasn't as sharp as he has been, but Romo is the least of this teams' problems.

Has this been confirmed or have I missed something ?

Do we know what that was about or what was said ?

Somebody fill me in on what happened there ?
 

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khiladi;1229241 said:
Dude... on the first or second series where NO scored, Brees had like 30 seconds to throw... the secondary was doing their job....

I agree the front 7 was overmatched early on which forced Dallas to provide them help which opened up the deep stuff. Brees was picking the defense apart 8 yards at a time to the RBs and TEs.

The offense never really got a chance to get started in this game. Obviously the first pick by Romo contributed to that but the defense just couldnt get off the field.

Romo does need to practice throwing the fade routes, he always seems to throw the ball short or out of bounds. TO had a step or 2 on more then one occassion and he couldnt get him the ball.
 

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Running the ball doesnt help any QB.

12 attemts in a game is just sad since we had a 77 yard TD on the 1st series.

Too early to judge Romo still, good or bad.

For our sake hopefully he will be just fine.
 

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Doomsday;1229310 said:
I agree the front 7 was overmatched early on which forced Dallas to provide them help which opened up the deep stuff. Brees was picking the defense apart 8 yards at a time to the RBs and TEs.

The offense never really got a chance to get started in this game. Obviously the first pick by Romo contributed to that but the defense just couldnt get off the field.

Romo does need to practice throwing the fade routes, he always seems to throw the ball short or out of bounds. TO had a step or 2 on more then one occassion and he couldnt get him the ball.

It was only 14-7 right up until just before halftime.(inside two minutes)

We had just seen a call reversed in our favor, (though I'm not sure why, I thought he caught it) and it was going to be 3rd and 20 or 22 or something.
They may not have even got a FG out of it.

But then Parcells gets 15 yds for unsportmanlike conduct or whatever they called it for throwing the red flag.

1st and ten and then the TD where Roy missed.

That was a huge turn of events.

They need to revisit that rule, it's ridiculous.

But my point is that no matter how bad the first half was, we could have gotten out of there at 14-7 at halftime.

That's when things started to get away from us.
 

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What I find amazing is why BP or someone on the defense didnt just call a timeout instead of throwing the flag out there. Dallas had 2 left with 50 seconds left in the game, so they werent going to need those on offense most likely. You would think someone as detailed as BP would think of those type of scenerios in advance. I know its easy from the couch but I was yelling at the TV for them to call timeout before the ball was snapped.
 

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Doomsday;1229344 said:
What I find amazing is why BP didnt just call a time out instead of throwing the flag out there. Dallas had 2 left with 50 seconds left in the game, so they werent going to need those on offense most likely.

Correctamundo, I said the same thing myself.

I also think he should have known better.
 

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Romo isn't the problem, primarily.

Our lines were the problem (both O and D). I would like to see one of Grizz's famous breakdowns of the line play. Has someone done one for this game?

Also, on JJ. I agree. I think he runs too much with his head down, but I also think he is doing what he's told. I remember seeing a play where Barber lost a yard when he bounced the play outside (his only carry?), and I thought, if Julius would have run that, he would have put his head down, hit the hole and gotten two yards. I think that's what Parcells has instilled in him, for the good or the bad.
 

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Anyone see the dark hair girl with the poster that read:

Forget Jessica, Date me!

Or something like that.

I bet she doesnt think the problem was Romo.



But seriously.. He didnt play great until the 4th againt the Giants and now he had a terrible game against the Saints.

I think it was a mix of things though... running the ball 12 times doesnt help any QB in the league.

A lot of his throws were also underthrown or late. I'm not too sure what was causing this.

Fact of the matter is it was just 1 and a half games. It happens.

I want to see our defense and OUR COACHES to try and get back on the right page against Atlanta.
 

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smarta5150;1229361 said:
Anyone see the dark hair girl with the poster that read:

Forget Jessica, Date me!

Or something like that.

How could you miss her she was fine!
 

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khiladi;1229241 said:
Dude... on the first or second series where NO scored, Brees had like 30 seconds to throw... the secondary was doing their job....

You're right, I kind of had it backwards... Our rush leaves our secondary exposed... but I still don't have much confidence in our secondary.
 

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Cogan;1229220 said:
Romo showed what he can do given the chance to throw to semi-open receivers. Over the last two games, he's faced much better defenses, but so has our offensive line, RBs, TEs, & WRs. Plus, we were completely out-coached this last game. DBs were sitting on slants to Glenn, and out-physicalling Owens. They stuffed our running game except for the 77 yd. TD run.
Now that the Cowboys are in the stretch run, they will be facing much tougher teams just gunning for them. All of a sudden, the offensive line that was blocking better is getting punched in the mouth, & they have backed down. The receivers are growing alligator arms, and JJ is running smack into the backs of his blockers. Man, I don't know how many times all or most of the Saint's defense was stacked in the middle to stuff the run, and JJ had all this room to run to the corner and down the sideline. Instead, he runs where the play is called, regardless if it is blocked or not.

I hope BP took a hard look at who showed up Sunday night, and who packed it in, or just never showed up. Owens is one who should sit. When I saw Romo pratically have to push Owens down the LOS to get positioned, I hit the roof. He did that at Philly last year when we were pummeling his team. He gave up on routes, dropped balls, and didn't fight for extra yds. I knew then that his charater DOES show up on game day. Why keep fighting when I could get hurt for nothing? Right Owens? We need to sit this guy FOREVER, and put Crayton in his place. At least Patrick fights until the game is over.

Let's give Romo the players he needs to get the job done, & he will. I know he overthrew a few guys, and wasn't as sharp as he has been, but Romo is the least of this teams' problems.

I don't quite agree with your statement about the running game against NO. JJ had 117 yds on 12 carries, I believe. Take away the 77 yarder and you're looking at 40 yds on 11 caries. Not good, but not horrible. We had a total of 14, yes 14, running plays for the game. Given the very limited number of running plays, and really a very limited number of offensive plays overall (wasn't it about 38 min's to 22 min's time of posession difference?), the run game was fine. The problem in that game was defense! Period!
 

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Twelve rushing attempts:banghead:, no pass rush:banghead:, and a D that was on the field sooo long they couldn't catch anybody who ran in the secondary.(exhausted)

JMO you understand.

And I'm not letting the O.C. off the hook. There has to be a way to free up T.G. and T.O.

I see other teams in games throw long every now and then to a fairly open receiver, I can't remember when one of our receivers was wide open.

Players or play calling?:rolleyes:
 

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sandtrapp;1229589 said:
Twelve rushing attempts:banghead:, no pass rush:banghead:, and a D that was on the field sooo long they couldn't catch anybody who ran in the secondary.(exhausted)

JMO you understand.

And I'm not letting the O.C. off the hook. There has to be a way to free up T.G. and T.O.

I see other teams in games throw long every now and then to a fairly open receiver, I can't remember when one of our receivers was wide open.

Players or play calling?:rolleyes:


In a game like that both. Nothing Dallas did that night was right and everything the Saints did worked to prefection that is normally what happens in blowouts. Having said that I don't ever look at 1 game during a season as the tell all, we got out played and out coached all they can do now is put it behind them and move on to the next game.
 

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Doomsday101;1229597 said:
In a game like that both. Nothing Dallas did that night was right and everything the Saints did worked to prefection that is normally what happens in blowouts. Having said that I don't ever look at 1 game during a season as the tell all, we got out played and out coached all they can do now is put it behind them and move on to the next game.

I agree, and We will be 11-5 @ the end.


my prediction.:D
 

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He played his worse game as a pro Sunday but in his defense why in the name of all that is decent did the Cowboys abandon a marvelously effective run game in a tie?
 
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