Romo needs to create a market

[65fastback2plus2]

Not "in" enough for you? Lol
I have to allow for stupid decisions on Cowboys part.

only you would ruin a poker reference (and you best not come back with "Sure I'd poke her")

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

only you would ruin a poker reference (and you best not come back with "Sure I'd poke her")

FORD = Found on road dead

Like that better?


Chevy Bow tie all the way!

 

[65fastback2plus2]

FORD = Found on road dead

Like that better?


Chevy Bow tie all the way!

at least you stay in shape.

 

[phildadon86]

Of these teams, the Rams would be most likely. Goff could stand to learn from a guy like Romo and they are close to being a contender with a qb.

Close to being a contender? Really? If LA is a contender with a QB, then everything ive read on this board about how the Cowboys shouldnt even play next year because we suck would all be lies.

 

[EST_1986]

I've always thought it made a lot of sense for the Jets, their front office will get killed by their fans if they go into next season with Geno Smith starting again.

Geno Smith expected to sign with the Giants

 

[Nightman]

Or Romo and his agent are thinking that not redoing the contract is going to lead to his release at some point. Question is, will Dallas pay Romo his 3yr/$54m contract to backup Dak? That is the million dollar question here, is Dallas going to pay Romo $18 million a season to be Dak's backup?

If the answer is no........which everybody assumes is the legit answer............then its only a matter of time before Romo is released. So no, Romo and his agent don't have to do jack if their endgame is a release.

I think they would pay for this year...his 14m is already accounted for and FA is over

They wouldn't pay 20m in 2018 or 2019 but another year all but kills Romo's comeback

But if Romo re-does his deal like I suggest teams will know DAL will keep him and up their games

 

[Nightman]

Hogwash, Romo doesn't have to do a single thing except get conditioned to play football somewhere this year. He is not going to renegotiate anything with the Cowboys. The Cowboys hold his rights and can keep him and pay his contract or release him. They don't seem to have a trading partner right now and most likely won't unless some team gets desperate. Romo's agents are just going to let this thing play out for awhile you can bet. We will see how this thing goes when the off-season workouts begin. If Romo get's hurt during workouts, OTA's or TC if he goes, he is a vested vet and will get his entire salary for the year. Romo has lots of leverage here and he can sit back and wait for the FO to get off their
chairs and make a decision. If I were Romo and they asked me to take a paycut and backup Dak, I would give them the finger.

Romo has no leverage........his contract is not guaranteed

DAL could release him Sept 9th and he would get nothing but hope a new team signs him that late

If he retires he owes 12.5m........ no leverage at all

 

[Nightman]

Any trade would be entirely contingent on Romo and the trade partner reaching a new deal. The hold up is the fact that teams know they don't need to trade for him. Sounds like you're expecting Romo to drop his cap number for any potential trade partner to such an extent that it would create a willingness to part ways with a pick that teams clearly don't want to part ways with.

Not sure I see the incentive for anyone. A contract will still have to be reached between Romo and the trading team. Romo does nothing by lowering his base salary because now he's negotiating from a position of having $5M in scheduled base salary rather than $14M. Basically just asking for teams to offer him less. Dallas would have more guaranteed to Romo, which puts them in the position of having to carry those guarantees if Romo isn't willing to take the lesser offers. If he didn't take the offer, where does that leave things? He retires because he doesn't want to be a backup? That would hand the new guarantees back but Dallas ultimately gets nothing just as they would if he were cut. He doesn't retire and he's marooned in Dallas and has forfeited $9M in base salary along the way?

Seems unlikely.

Its not less if he starts, which is the whole point

He gets 13m if he plays all year vs 14m now, except 10m is guaranteed vs 0m now

The new team gets one year at a cap hit of 5m....if he is good they have to pay up year 2 ....if he is bad they have a cheap out at 5m

 

[Hoofbite]

Its not less if he starts, which is the whole point

He gets 13m if he plays all year vs 14m now, except 10m is guaranteed vs 0m now

The new team gets one year at a cap hit of 5m....if he is good they have to pay up year 2 ....if he is bad they have a cheap out at 5m

Nothing is guaranteed now but I think he'd have a better offer as a free agent. There are enough QB needy teams out there to surpass those numbers.

Whoever wants him will have to come to terms on a new deal with him.

 

[Nightman]

Nothing is guaranteed now but I think he'd have a better offer as a free agent. There are enough QB needy teams out there to surpass those numbers.

Whoever wants him will have to come to terms on a new deal with him.

How can you say that when all teams that benefit the most won't even ask to talk to him unless he is cut and his contract goes away

This tells me they don't value him very high and won't pay him any more than I am suggesting....it is pretty disrespectful if you ask me....'oh well if we lose him we lose him'

 

[Hoofbite]

How can you say that when all teams that benefit the most won't even ask to talk to him unless he is cut and his contract goes away

This tells me they don't value him very high and won't pay him any more than I am suggesting....it is pretty disrespectful if you ask me....'oh well if we lose him we lose him'

They don't want to give up draft picks for him. Not only that, who's to say that there isn't a team that would trade for him but it just happens to be on the short list of "no ways" that Romo has given Jerry?

 

[agk136]

It's going to come down to whoever Jerry can get draft picks from. At this time I do not think Jerry is going to do what's best for Romo. This is a business and all participants know this. If JJ doesn't get any offer's he will wait until September to release him. This is what I believe will happen.

JJ holds the cards not Romo.

 

[Nightman]

They don't want to give up draft picks for him. Not only that, who's to say that there isn't a team that would trade for him but it just happens to be on the short list of "no ways" that Romo has given Jerry?

Plus if Tony re-does his contract they can't go after his signing bonus if he retired

I just think a new deal benefits everyone...... Tony, DAL and a possible trade partner

What team wouldn't want Romo on a 3/39m deal with only 10m guaranteed and 60%(24m) in games started incentives

 

[T-RO]

bkight13, sorry bro...but 3 months ago you posted profusely about how if Romo was on the block there would be 12 teams vying to trade for him, flashing tons of picks.

That was pure fantasy, and now you are desperately trying to move chairs around on your titanically bad notion to somehow make it happen.

We aren't getting a 1st rounder plus for Romo. We aren't getting a 1st. The Cowboys will be very fortunate to get a 3 or a 4. Quite possibly we get zip.

I doubt I'm alone in reaching a fatigue point in trying to walk you through what are some obvious dynamics at play here.

 

[tyke1doe]

I'm calling it right now. The Cowboys will make a trade with the Texans on DRAFT DAY.
The Cowboys will swap picks with the Texans, the 20th for the 28th pick and the 52nd for the 60th pick and, maybe the Texans toss in a 4th/5th round pick. The Texans in turn will get Tony Romo.

The Cowboys will then deal the 20th pick, move down and pick up maybe another third or fourth round pick as a team below will be looking to catch one of the young quarterbacks or running backs who are falling.

So let it be written.
So let it be done.

 

[Nightman]

bkight13, sorry bro...but 3 months ago you posted profusely about how if Romo was on the block there would be 12 teams vying to trade for him, flashing tons of picks.

That was pure fantasy, and now you are desperately trying to move chairs around on your titanically bad notion to somehow make it happen.

We aren't getting a 1st rounder plus for Romo. We aren't getting a 1st. The Cowboys will be very fortunate to get a 3 or a 4. Quite possibly we get zip.

I doubt I'm alone in reaching a fatigue point in trying to walk you through what are some obvious dynamics at play here.

Things changed and DAL did everything they could to screw this deal up

There were 12 teams interested in having Romo as their QB......that is a fact

I thought one or 2 would offer up a first at least but that hasn't happened yet, but I think it is because of DAL.......the narrative all year was DAL was releasing Romo March 9th....why trade???

But DAL smartened up and we are where we are

Now, I'll discuss things with you all you want if you can be civil

If you need to act like a superior know it all then save your breath

It is easy to yell at the bull from the window........sack up and make some of your own opinions sometimes instead of nitpicking the men talking

 

[LittleD]

Romo has no leverage........his contract is not guaranteed

DAL could release him Sept 9th and he would get nothing but hope a new team signs him that late

If he retires he owes 12.5m........ no leverage at all

You really think Jerry is going to do anything like that to Tony??? Really? They may hold him up to the draft but, if no offers appear, I see Jerry letting him go.
Not a good thing for Tony and his agents to hit every sports news station or website and start complaining loudly. Not a good thing at all. I seem to remember
a certain backup QB who held out of OTA's and TC and was just let go and never paid back any SB. I don't think Ratliff paid them back any SB either. Jerry
is not taking Tony to arbitration over 12.5mil you can bet.

 

[Nightman]

You really think Jerry is going to do anything like that to Tony??? Really? They may hold him up to the draft but, if no offers appear, I see Jerry letting him go.
Not a good thing for Tony and his agents to hit every sports news station or website and start complaining loudly. Not a good thing at all. I seem to remember
a certain backup QB who held out of OTA's and TC and was just let go and never paid back any SB. I don't think Ratliff paid them back any SB either. Jerry
is not taking Tony to arbitration over 12.5mil you can bet.

Ratliff was taken to arbitration and Orton was a drunken jack hole that no one wanted

Romo is under contract so why isn't he being criticized as a meanie by not honoring it........because it is just business both ways..... all this Dudley Do Right stuff didn't keep 9 FAs from signing elsewhere and I didn't see any outside players giving money away to come and play for the benevolent JJones for free

You love to pretend that you have it all figured out but you are just guessing like the rest of us...... no one, not even Jerry knows what Jerry is going to do day to day

 

[Ken]

I think it would be a good idea to get the parameters of a restructured contract hammered out with romo and then have that as a bargaining chip for a trade with agreed upon teams. This way Romo has say over the #s and where he is going and teams have assurances of the contract that they are trading for and what they are getting.

 

[LittleD]

Ratliff was taken to arbitration and Orton was a drunken jack hole that no one wanted

Romo is under contract so why isn't he being criticized as a meanie by not honoring it........because it is just business both ways..... all this Dudley Do Right stuff didn't keep 9 FAs from signing elsewhere and I didn't see any outside players giving money away to come and play for the benevolent JJones for free

You love to pretend that you have it all figured out but you are just guessing like the rest of us...... no one, not even Jerry knows what Jerry is going to do day to day

Ratliff was taken to arbitration but, never paid a dime back. Orton didn't pay anything either and Buffalo wanted him bad me thinks. He played another year and started a slew of games.
Maybe, just maybe...it's you that tries to convince your mind that you have something figured out. Guess what...no one has anything figured out about Romo because Jerry said
don't believe anything you hear until you hear it from me. So, in a sense, we're all just pontificating...